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Lamar Street again
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:previous: AlvaroLegido, I don't think there was a loop at the end of Lamar.
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http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original 1906 Sanborn Map @ LAPL http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original This is the NE corner of 12th and Hope. The text in the lower left corner says the spire is 50 feet; the 1950 Sanborn says the spire is 60 feet. LAPL says this 1918 photo that includes the church shows buildings on Hope Street, but it actually looks west on 12th Street (you can tell by the mid-block alley): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original http://jpg1.lapl.org/00075/00075350.jpg The church had not yet been built when this 1902 aerial photo was taken: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19366 But you can see the church in this post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11441 I also checked HistoricAerials.com . . . the church is in the 1952 photo but absent from the 1964 photo. |
:previous: Excellent discovery Flyingwedge! -Thanks for identifying the 'mystery' church.
Fiesta Park hadn't crossed my mind as a venue for high school football games....especially in 1908. __ |
Wig-Wag,
Congrats on the new grandchild! |
:previous: Yes, congratulations Jack (Wig-Wag). I'm happy for you.
__ I don't believe we've seen this apartment building on NLA. (I searched) The Sherman Apartments 314 S. Alexandria Avenue Los Angeles http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/LTC5YZ.jpg found earlier this evening on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item566fb13173 "A Mrs. Bremer lived here from Oct. 1933 to June 1938." (see below) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/bOQekf.jpg The Sherman today. The four pointed ornamental elements on the roof have been chopped off. (probably to avoid one of them landing on someone's head during an earthquake) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/dHJW2N.png GSV It still has it's original canopy over the entrance. (but now, it also has an awful security door resembling a cage :() http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/jUJZG7.png detail GSV The view from 3rd Street. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/gjfp48.png GSV -fading sign on the side of the building. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/m3mPDz.png I'm still trying to decipher what it said under Sherman Apartments. __ There is also a bit of modern noir / a murder in 2007. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/wGmga8.png http://homicide.latimes.com/post/christopher-thomas/ It's hard telling what else has happened in it's long history. (GaylordWilshire was our pro in finding noirish newspaper articles.) __ |
Los Angeles MTA # 3148, PCC Narrow Gauge Streetcar, Last Day, March 30, 1963." -no location given.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/ZheaA1.jpg negative found this evening on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item51c9348810 __ |
re: dust to dust.
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What makes Los Angeles so special? Why not San Francisco or Chicago or N.Y.C. or even New Orleans? There's nothing that can touch this at skyscraperpage or anywhere else that I know of. I have my own reasons as I was obsessively interested in L.A. history regarding the early pueblo days before I stumbled into here. It stimulates me the think of the change that pioneers and historians such as Harris Newmark and Maj. Horace Bell who arrived in L.A. in the early 1850's when still mostly a "rough and ready" western adobe pueblo and witnessed it's change into a major metropolis near to the 1920s, much of which we enjoy here now. Other cities have their own history - their own photo-documented norish history. One thing I'll say is that the level of interest, quality, dedication and the attention to both detail and historical changes/continuity by NLA contributors is just astounding. Why us? Why Los Angeles? Why NLA? "Because E_R's curiosity is infectious."... and he doesn't even live here anymore. :D |
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WP The Descanso (originally known as the Paraiso) was part of the Los Angeles Railway, or Yellow Line, which at its peak comprised 20 streetcar lines with 1,250 trolleys. Built in 1909 and available for chartered use by funeral parties at a cost of about $25, the Descanso was one of two funeral cars, designed with a compartment that opened to reveal a special folding casket carrier. The family sat with the coffin in an interior with touches including stained-glass windows. It was all very dignified, designed to accommodate people who wanted to avoid a bumpy ride over unpaved roads in a horse-drawn cart on their way to the lay a loved one to rest. Its now at the Orange Empire Railroad Museum. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psswmkpouv.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psfaxuvvhj.jpg |
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Noirish hotel in Hollywood. Anyone know about this building?
http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywo...social_fbshare
For nearly a century, the Villa Carlotta has been a way station on the way to making it, or not. Now that the luxury developer have come, a longtime resident bids it farewell. 5959 Franklin Ave, Los Angeles. |
Cutts Building at 706 South Hill Street
I came across this great street scene from 1942. Behind them is the Cutts Building. Google came up with a couple of different addresses but the consensus seems to be 706 South Hill Street.
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I think it's because those and similar cities have been justifiably regarded as historically and architecturally interesting for so long that they've been done a thousandfold, already. They've long boasted a wealth of buildings and neighborhoods which have been allowed to remain largely unchanged, although as in all cities individual houses and buildings do occasionally get replaced. By contrast, throughout the mid 20th century, say from 1930 to 1980, so much of our historic architecture and so many neighborhoods were wiped off the map to make way for freeways, urban renewal projects, and the odd massive infrastructure project (i.e., Union Station). Even where such projects weren't implemented, the economics and geography of the city made the destruction of dozens of Victorian and even Georgian structures virtually inevitable--often to be replaced not by new and possibly better buildings, but by parking lots. In perhaps no other time and place on Earth were conditions so favorable to suburbanization, especially as in those days "suburb" could mean Culver City, North Hollywood, or even Santa Monica, instead of West Valley, SCV, or the Inland Empire. As if that weren't enough, the miserable smog of the postwar era was a metaphorical black eye which probably impacted not only how outsiders and potential artists and photographers perceived the city, but also the attitude of locals about whether any of its physical history was worth preserving. Tourists might have come here for the attractions in the region, but they definitely weren't coming for the scenery. What's changed now is that we have survived the era of urban renewal and freeway construction, and suburbanization has pretty much run its course. What older buildings we still have are more likely to be allowed to remain, and as time goes on more and more buildings achieve a semblance of historical value just by their age. How old is "old"? Granted, the bar is pretty low here, but just from this thread the abundance of 80 to 100 year old buildings is impressive. I couldn't have made that claim in the mid 1970s, when I first became interested. A 100-year old building then would have been built well back into the 19th Century, but most of those structures were gone. And we have digital cameras, and the internet, and so on... |
Thanks to Ed Workman for identifying the San Pedro Street location of the Red Car picture I posted, and to Lorendoc for giving me the name of the bicycle company in the background.
-------------- When I found this picture of the Baine Studio Apartments on Hollywood Boulevard last night, I didn't remember them appearing on NLA. A quick search showed me that e_r had in fact posted a "then and now" comparison way back in post #320. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tudioApts1.jpg USC Digital Library The "then" picture posted by e_r dates from the 1930s, and shows the building with a Bank of America sign on the roof. The picture above is dated 1927 (the building was completed in either 1926 or 1927 depending on which source you believe), and shows it as the Hollywood and Whitley branch of the Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank. The advert below the picture is a page header from the 1929 CD. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tudioApts2.jpg Detail of picture above/LAPL An article on southlandarchitecture.com says this of the "little room" that e_r expressed an interest in: "The building's penthouse was the private domain of Colonel Harry Baine, for whom the building was first named. He was an entrepreneur who served a year as Los Angeles County supervisor. It was he who commissioned the building and gained fame for bragging that he was the first person on Hollywood Boulevard to live in a penthouse." |
alanlutz, here's my post on the Villa Carlotta from many years ago. She's quite the survivor!
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After a quick search, I don't believe this we've seen this 1925 photograph of Aliso and San Pedro streets.
(there are two gas-o-meters at extreme right) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/7upJvi.jpg flickr / metro library :previous: also note the four extra long R.R. gates. Per the 1926 L.A. street directory, Mitchell & Mitchell was located at 235 Aliso street. __ question: I was going to include a Sanborn map of this area, ...but LAPL only has 2 pages of the hundreds of pages. Do I have to have a library card to access the complete Sanborn maps or am I simply looking in the wrong place? __ |
-mystery location.
P.E. car #103. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/ck6utR.jpg found recently on ebay -we always think of the 'good-ol-days', but look at all that litter at lower left. __ |
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There is also a picture at PacificElectric.org which shows the same car in the open car layover area (under the bus deck) at the Subterminal building |
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