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Steely Dan Jan 5, 2017 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7668512)
It's hard to judge really. I remember when one museum park was completed (back when I didn't care about development) I thought it was at least top 10 tallest in the city. The impact that building has is huge, I can't imagine what another 100 feet will do.

one grant park will actually be nearly 170' taller than one museum park.

893' vs. 726'

and one grant park actually will break through into the top 10 tallest in the city (8th or 9th depending on vista), provided that nothing else taller is built in the meantime.

munchymunch Jan 5, 2017 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7668513)
one grant park will actually be nearly 170' taller than one museum park.

893' vs. 726'

and one grant park actually will break through into the top 10 tallest in the city (9th place), provided that nothing else taller is built in the meantime.

I meant when one museum park was first completed (pappageorge building). I thought it was in the top 10 tallest.

Steely Dan Jan 5, 2017 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7668525)
I meant when one museum park was first completed (pappageorge building). I thought it was in the top 10 tallest.

i understood you. OMP was the 16th tallest in the city when it was completed in '09, but you thought it was taller than it was because of its location.

i was just pointing how much taller OGP will be than OMP, and that, at 893' tall, it actually will be among the city's top 10 when it's completed in 2019.

rlw777 Jan 5, 2017 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
There's something about this project that's gotten my attention. Yeah I'm watching Wanda and OBP too, but with OGP, we're putting a tower the height of Chicago First National south of Roosevelt. I remember back in 2004 or 2005 when they were talking about the south wall buildings being 400'-500'.

It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

If we are talking about the skyline in terms of media Vista will have a greater impact for sure. I believe the most common places to take photos of the skyline are around Adler Planetarium and up at North Ave. beach. Vista will be prominent from both locations. OGP will not be visible from North Ave. beach and will be mostly blocked by OMP when it's not cropped out entirely from Adler.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 5, 2017 7:43 PM

Vista should look pretty good from Michigan Ave/River too!

Notyrview Jan 5, 2017 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21 (Post 7668613)
Vista should look pretty good from Michigan Ave/River too!

Yeah i think from the River it's gonna be like where are the flying cars to complement it.

ithakas Jan 5, 2017 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Notyrview (Post 7668626)
Yeah i think from the River it's gonna be like where are the flying cars to complement it.

Right here!
https://assets.dnainfo.com/generated...extralarge.jpg

Chi-Sky21 Jan 5, 2017 7:57 PM

Can't wait till someone flies a drone with video straight through Vista! of course such would be illegal and i do not condone it. msg me if you do it though!

LouisVanDerWright Jan 5, 2017 8:13 PM

Would it be illegal though? There will be a public street passing through the building. I don't see why someone, with the proper licenses, couldn't do laps over the building and down again and back through the hole with a drone...

brian_b Jan 6, 2017 4:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7668651)
Would it be illegal though? There will be a public street passing through the building. I don't see why someone, with the proper licenses, couldn't do laps over the building and down again and back through the hole with a drone...

It's kind of a gray area. Aircraft can legally fly over your property, but at great height. The real question is how low can they fly? The current legal standard comes from a case many decades ago in which a crop duster flew over some farmer's property so low that it scared his chickens to actual death. The Supreme Court ruled that there is definitely such a thing as too low - the pilot had to pay the farmer for his dead chickens - but didn't specify an actual number. There are currently a number of court cases out there dealing with drones on private property, so in a few years we may know the answer.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 6, 2017 4:57 PM

It may not be illegal now...but it would be soon after someone did that!

Notyrview Jan 6, 2017 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7669596)
It's kind of a gray area. Aircraft can legally fly over your property, but at great height. The real question is how low can they fly? The current legal standard comes from a case many decades ago in which a crop duster flew over some farmer's property so low that it scared his chickens to actual death. The Supreme Court ruled that there is definitely such a thing as too low - the pilot had to pay the farmer for his dead chickens - but didn't specify an actual number. There are currently a number of court cases out there dealing with drones on private property, so in a few years we may know the answer.

I love property law. It's such quirky way to learn American history.

SolarWind Jan 7, 2017 10:09 PM

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harryc Jan 10, 2017 2:13 PM

Nice set BVic ^^

aaron38 Jan 10, 2017 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7668226)
It's been making me wonder... Which tower do you all think will have the overall greater impact on the skyline, One Grant Park or Vista? They're in two separate parts of the skyline with a 300' height difference between them similar to Sears and Hancock, but which one will make the greater impression?

Overall it might be OGP. From too many angles Vista will form a clump with Trump and Aon (or whatever it's called now). It'll be an impressive clump, but Vista won't be forming a new peak for those sightlines.

Unfortunately OGP will also hide behind Sears for anyone approaching from the N/NW. But coming in from W to S, then it will be OGP having a large impact and overshadowing buildings further north.

Tiebreaker to OGP for forming a new peak with no equal until 311 S Wacker.

intrepidDesign Jan 10, 2017 4:07 PM

I'd love to see some images of this building from the SW, to me, the terraces it makes are going to be killer. I like the sheer verticality of the north face, but IMHO i think the south side of the building will be pretty awesome. I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

KWILLSKYLINE Jan 10, 2017 4:16 PM

Sweet pics Bvic and solar. Up close and personal. at least it's warming up for those workers.

Chi-Sky21 Jan 10, 2017 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by intrepidDesign (Post 7673180)
I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

:cheers:

LouisVanDerWright Jan 10, 2017 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by intrepidDesign (Post 7673180)
I'd love to see some images of this building from the SW, to me, the terraces it makes are going to be killer. I like the sheer verticality of the north face, but IMHO i think the south side of the building will be pretty awesome. I kinda wish the orientation of this building was 180 degrees, so those setbacks you see at (roughly) floors 23, 32 and 42 on the south were facing the park.

As a buyer I would much prefer my terrace to get full sun all the time than to have a shadowy terrace facing the park. This building is well designed to take advantage of its site and maximize value for the developer and occupants.


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