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BVictor1 Oct 16, 2017 8:54 PM

Nice!

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donnie Oct 16, 2017 9:17 PM

Grant is going to look grand!

Mr Saturn64 Oct 16, 2017 9:50 PM

That's a pretty good spot for the building. One Museum Park looks kind of detached from over there. It'll be like a separate skyline of sorts, like in Atlanta where there are a few smaller areas with skyscrapers as opposed to one big downtown.

BVictor1 Oct 16, 2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 7954401)
That's a pretty good spot for the building. One Museum Park looks kind of detached from over there. It'll be like a separate skyline of sorts, like in Atlanta where there are a few smaller areas with skyscrapers as opposed to one big downtown.

That area will fill visually over time as you have the 62 acre Related Midwest site to the west along the river, and the area to the south of McCormick Place.

Domer2019 Oct 17, 2017 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7954452)
That area will fill visually over time as you have the 62 acre Related Midwest site to the west along the river, and the area to the south of McCormick Place.

Riverline, 1000 S Michigan, and Essex will help pull the southern wall into context with what's north of it (short term), keeping it as a southern bookend rather than a northern one to The 78, 1326 S Michigan, McCormick, and Michael Reese. Granted that those will do more in the long term to bring more development to the South Loop in general, as you said.

rgarri4 Oct 18, 2017 2:47 PM

A few shots from my massing model.


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Prezrezc Oct 18, 2017 4:44 PM

Nice work. Chicago is due for some high-rise activity southward...If my direction is right.

I mean...The only thing east of the city is water, basically.

The Best Forumer Oct 18, 2017 5:48 PM

That is some nice work there... keep it up!

maru2501 Oct 18, 2017 6:44 PM

Thanks so much for sharing those. I can tell it's a great deal of work, and something I would love to be able to do if I had the ability. But I don't, so that's really great to have. Very appreciated

donnie Oct 18, 2017 9:47 PM

Gret job and if both towers of OGP are built it's going to look like one massive building, specially from the east or west!

Thank you for the rendering!

left of center Oct 18, 2017 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rgarri4 (Post 7956519)

rgarri4, you are the Da Vinci of our times!

Your models have eased one of my biggest fears with OGP/2GP. I was afraid they would look too boxy and imposing, especially the huge base they have along Roosevelt. But they look very well proportioned here. An excellent cap to the south wall of Grant Park.

harryc Oct 19, 2017 1:11 PM

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F1 Tommy Oct 19, 2017 3:20 PM

That blank wall looks terrible with or without painting. Cannot believe the city approved that. We have to wait until the next tower gets built, wich could end up being years.

Mr Downtown Oct 19, 2017 7:01 PM

^What provision of state law do you think permits cities to regulate blank walls?

Chi-Sky21 Oct 19, 2017 7:15 PM

I am sure they will cover it with something like an ad saying please spend way to much money to rent one of our MANY unoccupied apts.

The Best Forumer Oct 19, 2017 8:16 PM

Well.. it would make a nice revenue generator.

Notyrview Oct 19, 2017 8:52 PM

Even when a new building goes up, it's still an eyesore. Like Vista isn't really hiding the Regata turd that well.

Anyway, i don't think this person is a NIMBY, they're just a little sensible. Telling developers 'no blank walls' wouldn't deter serious development, and if it pushes out the hacks, so what.

BVictor1 Oct 19, 2017 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 7957972)
That blank wall looks terrible with or without painting. Cannot believe the city approved that. We have to wait until the next tower gets built, wich could end up being years.

That blank wall is a shear wall, which helps the building from twisting and torquing.

Once the second tower is completed, you'll forget about it.

F1 Tommy Oct 19, 2017 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 7958453)
Hey look another nimby!

No, I want the building built. I just want the whole building to look aesthetically pleasing. These blank walls are not a good idea.

F1 Tommy Oct 19, 2017 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7958520)
That blank wall is a shear wall, which helps the building from twisting and torquing.

Once the second tower is completed, you'll forget about it.

Your probably right, but we may have to look at it for 2 or 3 years from Michigan Avenue. Not good.

harryc Oct 19, 2017 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7958520)
That blank wall is a shear wall, which helps the building from twisting and torquing.

Once the second tower is completed, you'll forget about it.

I don't think cinder-block provides the strength to constitute a sheer wall. Fire code seems the likely culprit.

SammisAran Oct 19, 2017 9:05 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 7957972)
That blank wall looks terrible with or without painting. Cannot believe the city approved that. We have to wait until the next tower gets built, wich could end up being years.

Well, in order to fill the parcel, that wall has to be fire rated, or has to be 30' from the lot line.

City of Chicago Building Code 15-8-082(b)

F1 Tommy Oct 19, 2017 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SammisAran (Post 7958539)
Well, in order to fill the parcel, that wall has to be fire rated, or has to be 30' from the lot line.

City of Chicago Building Code 15-8-082(b)

Harry was right then. There has to be a better looking way to fire rate that wall.

Kumdogmillionaire Oct 19, 2017 9:09 PM

They can always do a big ass mural over it. i wouldn't worry too much about it my dudes

The Best Forumer Oct 19, 2017 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7958543)
They can always do a big ass mural over it. i wouldn't worry too much about it my dudes

I like this idea the best... it would enhance the cityscape.

gebs Oct 19, 2017 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7958543)
They can always do a big ass mural over it. i wouldn't worry too much about it my dudes

I'd be excited just to watch this get painted so high up. It'd likely draw several eyes upward. I'm also very partial to 30 E Balbo's mural, which turned an otherwise humdrum building into something pretty striking.

Domer2019 Oct 20, 2017 2:37 AM

A mural would be a great idea for a building that wouldn't erase the artist's work to put in a Phase 2 three years later.

SolarWind Oct 27, 2017 2:23 AM

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10023 Oct 27, 2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer2019 (Post 7958965)
A mural would be a great idea for a building that wouldn't erase the artist's work to put in a Phase 2 three years later.

Or a green wall, but again, too expensive to be temporary at least in Chicago.

J_M_Tungsten Oct 27, 2017 4:03 PM

Man, that East wall is a beast!

harryc Oct 31, 2017 6:44 PM

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BVictor1 Nov 2, 2017 10:42 AM

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seadragon Nov 8, 2017 10:39 PM

Permits to Regulate Blank Walls
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7958358)
^What provision of state law do you think permits cities to regulate blank walls?

That is a good question. I'm speculating, but it seems from the height and elevation of the exposed surface area on the attached structures, although blank as they are now with a uniform blue surface, that painting over them with just a single color or placing a mural on their surface would require a city permit. Also, should the mural constitute a sign or ad (message), then a permit is required.


Chicago, Sign Regulations and Permits

https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/e...d_permits.html


Chicago, When a Building Permit is NOT Required

https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/e...notneeded.html


Alderman Covers Artist's Bridgeport Mural Painted on Private Property

http://chicagoist.com/2009/05/16/ald...bridgeport.php


Pilsen Public Art Installation Delayed by City Permit Issues

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2013...sues#slideshow

KWillChicago Nov 8, 2017 11:30 PM

Its crazy driving down Columbus and seeing this in person and how big of a hulk it is going to be. Even crazier is imagining it and its big brother and how they are going to overwhelm everything south of Roosevelt. Their going to look like red woods in an apple orchard.

HomrQT Nov 9, 2017 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 7980386)
Its crazy driving down Columbus and seeing this in person and how big of a hulk it is going to be. Even crazier is imagining it and its big brother and how they are going to overwhelm everything south of Roosevelt. Their going to look like red woods in an apple orchard.

I love that analogy. Good stuff.

BVictor1 Nov 9, 2017 1:09 AM

The northwest setback has been hit.

BVictor1 Nov 11, 2017 2:36 PM

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SolarWind Nov 17, 2017 4:17 AM

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BVictor1 Nov 17, 2017 5:28 AM

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Ready to join its smaller, shorter older brothers...
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harryc Nov 21, 2017 3:31 PM

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J_M_Tungsten Nov 21, 2017 3:59 PM

Not that it bothers me in the least, but the corner units to the south of this lost one hell of a view!

Kumdogmillionaire Nov 21, 2017 5:47 PM

What a behemoth

left of center Nov 21, 2017 9:53 PM

Great pics Harry, BVic!

Anyone have any idea when we might start seeing glass go up?

10023 Nov 22, 2017 9:34 AM

What’s the construction phasing/schedule for the second tower? Or would they sell all of these before building that one?

KWillChicago Nov 22, 2017 11:23 AM

I could be talking out my ass but i could have sworn i read an article that said their interested in starting tower 2 by late 2019. I also believe they were talking about something taking over the most expensive gas station in the country the BP down the street. It could be all speculative bullshit but if i remember where i read it i'll try to post it and see if you guys can verify.

BVictor1 Nov 22, 2017 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 7994359)
What’s the construction phasing/schedule for the second tower? Or would they sell all of these before building that one?

There's no time frame as the second tower has yet to be designed. That'll probably come back before the neighborhood with presentations and such. The second tower is still a few years off, and it may not even be a twin.

Jibba Nov 22, 2017 4:38 PM

Has anyone seen prints/drawings for the plan of this? I searched around but couldn't find anything. I'm curious about the length of that east wall--it looks gigantic.

HomrQT Nov 22, 2017 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 7994371)
I could be talking out my ass but i could have sworn i read an article that said their interested in starting tower 2 by late 2019. I also believe they were talking about something taking over the most expensive gas station in the country the BP down the street. It could be all speculative bullshit but if i remember where i read it i'll try to post it and see if you guys can verify.

Let's just hope whatever is built will retain the current proposal height (or go taller) and not take too long too happen.

left of center Nov 22, 2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7994373)
There's no time frame as the second tower has yet to be designed. That'll probably come back before the neighborhood with presentations and such. The second tower is still a few years off, and it may not even be a twin.

That would be interesting if it had a different design that its older brother to the east. Would the two towers still have a shared base with a similar design? It would seem awkward to have OGP not share a base with 2GP, the way its currently oriented. Or maybe not... as long as they met at the same height...

Le Baron Nov 25, 2017 4:09 PM

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