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My guess is once the service is fully opened, there will be plenty of riders. Cable cars are essentially open air vehicles unless you chose to ride inside. I'm avoiding Muni's busses and streetcars but I'd hang on the side of a cable car. |
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If it's not a tourist trap, why don't they use modern vehicles with much greater capacity like everywhere else in the world In North America, Toronto has a streetcar network that's several magnitudes larger and all vehicles are climate control, modern, high capacity and high frequency https://www.railinsider.co.uk/wp-con...-dtwn-16-9.jpg |
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And before they put them into service, they had them all completely refurbished. They were like new when SF first got them. You can see the whole fleet in its original livery here: https://www.streetcar.org/streetcars/ But there were still places that could refurbish the streetcars under contract. SF for decades has had to have its own cable car workshop where they repair the fleet and occasionally resurrect one that seemed beyond repair. Somewhere they seem to have a stash of old broken down ones. |
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What a stupid question. The cable cars and old PCC streetcars are wonderful relics and great fun and the city loves them. But the streetcars in particular run on only one line on the surface with a subway using modern light rail vehicles as homebucket posted below. So you have your choice: Ride a piece of history on the surface and enjoy life, or take the subway below and get where you're going fast. I almost always ride the streetcars. You should come ride this one: Quote:
But to get this back on-topic, the LRVs were among the things suspended during "lockdown" and the service is slowly being resumed. Muni claims they lost so much revenue and trained operators they can't get everything back up and running yet, so that's why I'm so glad to see the cable cars. |
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Every time I've ever walked past the Powell Street cable car terminus, there has always been a line packed with tourists. The one time I actually rode it I'm pretty sure that, like me, everyone on it was from out of town. And at $6/ride, this isn't exactly a cost effective way to get from point A to point B. |
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Wasn't SF's cable cars a totally different system from what we now know as street cars?
Something like a cable pulling them from underneath due to the hilly terrain of the city and not electrified? |
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Maybe your explanation will help Nite realize why SF hasn't "gotten rid of" cable cars for modern day street cars. |
My impression has been that life became more neighborhood centric in NYC, people spend more time in their respective neighborhoods due to widespread work-from-home situations. Midtown is still looking a bit deserted compared to what it was two years ago, but nothing too extreme, there's just no reason to go there now for many people.
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Walked by Sundays on State today (how could I not, it's half a block from where I live) and it seemed nice and lively, though not sufficatingly crowded.
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The Powell Street 'turnaround' is pretty cool. Spent about 2 hours just watching 2 guys manually rotating 5 ton cable cars.
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Vaccination or weekly testing will be mandated for all New York City employees in September:
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I can't imagine the vaccination rate for city employees is below the overall vaccination rate, which is over 70%. City employees tend to be older, more nonwhite and more left-leaning than overall population, which suggests high vax. Also, the most anti-vax group, the Hasidic population, isn't heavily represented in city govt.
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I believe it has more to do with the nationwide shortage of workers in the service industry than anything else, but I have noticed that lots of businesses are keeping weirdly short hours still now.
On hot summer days, I really like having an iced tea while I walk home after work (caffeine doesn't affect me much). But every single coffeeshop along my normal walking commute either closed entirely during the pandemic, or closes by 4. The chain coffeeshop near my work (not a Starbucks) seems to be only staffed by one woman with an Eastern European accent. It was closed entirely for a week when she presumably wasn't available. This Saturday, my wife and daughter were getting haircuts, and I had time to kill. I figured this was a great time to try out a new restaurant only open for lunch the next neighborhood over. But it was closed - on Saturday at noon. It's only open on Thursdays, Fridays, and Sundays for lunch. Stopped by a bakery to get my son a cookie instead - which was only open four hours a day three days a week. I could go on with more stories, but it's really striking to me how limited these hours are. Oddly I don't see the same thing with sit-down bars/restaurants - they seem to have pretty full service hours. Maybe the difference comes down to tips making these more desirable? |
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^ I have zero issues with screening those who are unvaccinated...in theory...but what happens when a patron reacts in a less than adult manner. We had people overreacting (and becoming violent) because they refused to wear masks and were turned away.
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COVID-19: NYC Workers Get Vaccinated or Take Weekly Tests As Delta Spikes | NBC New York
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Well, my wife and I are headed to Lollapalooza this Saturday!! :tup:
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Another impact: reduced business hours and a very slow return to normal hours.
My wife and I are off work right now and looking to eat out a lot, and we're running into lots of places that are closed. A few days ago we were in a popular resort area not too far from here and found numerous places were closed on Monday and Tuesday, in the middle of what is normally peak tourist season. Today we were back home and looking to go out for lunch, and tons of places that would all be open for lunch on a weekday were all closed. The place we ended up going to, at around 1:45, was full but we got a table. |
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On the website, it looks like Nashville hot chicken is being featured as an example of "Chicago's Best Eats". It really is all over the place! If this isn't evidence of Nashville's widespread cultural impact across the country, I don't know what is.
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She really wails. (Wayne's World reference). |
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It's a staffing problem - a lot of service industry or tourist-oriented places are having a hard time finding people to work. After a year and a half of on-and-off lockdowns, a lot of former employees have moved on to new careers and/or just left the city entirely. |
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This is different than even an asymptomatic infection. PCR tests can show you as infected if you were exposed to the virus and have a small amount of live virus in your upper respiratory track which your body successfully clears before it becomes established. Or even if you are shedding some dead virus. |
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