Chinatown
Thank you for sharing the photographs of your trip to Chinatown FredH! I particularly liked the one of Grandview Gardens restaurant you took:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3552/k4oa.jpg My photo Here are a couple of pictures of Grandview Gardens back in the 1940's. I enjoyed going there in the 1960's and 1970's. http://imageshack.us/a/img163/2355/sqyb.jpg Source: LA Public Library http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6002/ofx9.jpg Source: LA Public Library |
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ER - If you recall, there is another part of Chinatown across Hill Street. This section looks even more forlorn: http://imageshack.us/a/img819/6388/cd3e.jpg My Photo Paper lanterns, a large banner, but no people. You have to shop around for lunch deals. The wife and I ate at a Dim Sum place just down Broadway and spent $24.00. Tea was $1.20 each. Grrr! Funny story since you live in Lafayette. We know a couple from China who came over here after college. Their son was born here. Last year, they sent him off to Purdue (wants to be a pilot) and the university matched him up in the dorm with a kid straight from China. Couldn't get along with the kid...I guess it was a culture clash. |
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I found a site that says: Her [May's] unfinished "castle" along with 26 acres acres of land and thousands of crated Malibu Potteries tiles, were sold in 1942 to the Franciscan Order for $50,000 (today's Serra Retreat House, rebuilt after a 1970 brush fire). http://www.malibucomplete.com/mc_history_rindge.php So far, I haven't found any historic photos of this place. |
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1) It shows Weller Street as a dominating factor in early LA streets; 2) lists the Bella Union Hotel as the old Mexican government offices -- I didn't know it was a Mexican era building. It started me wondering if there were other multi-storey Mexican era buildings; 3) shows the Protestant cemetery on the East side of Fort Moore hill; 4) lists a church at the Eastern base of Pound Cake Hill as the first Protestant Church in the city. I've seen photos of a small church at the base of the High School stairs but I wasn't able to find them now to post here -- I'll keep looking. Here are some quotes I pulled from Harris Newmark, Sixty Years in Southern California regarding the city cemetery: "Two cemeteries were in existence at the time whereof I write: the Roman Catholic—abandoned a few years ago—which occupied a site on Buena Vista Street, and one, now long deserted, for other denominations. This cemetery, which we 104 shall see was sadly neglected, thereby occasioning bitter criticism in the press, was on Fort Hill. Later, another burial-ground was established in the neighborhood of what is now Flower and Figueroa streets, near Ninth, many years before there was any thought of Rosedale or Evergreen." "For years, such was the neglect of the Protestant burial ground that in 1860 caustic criticism was made by each newspaper discussing the condition of the cemetery: there was no fence, headstones were disfigured or demolished, and there was little or no protection to the graves. As a matter of fact, when the cemetery on Fort Hill was abandoned, but few of the bodies were removed." "Elsewhere I have indicated the condition of the public cemetery. While an adobe wall enclosed the Roman Catholic burial-place, and a brick wall surrounded the Jewish resting-place for the dead, nothing was done until 1863 to improve the Protestant cemetery, although desecration went so far that the little railing around the grave of poor Mrs. Leck, the grocer's wife who had been murdered, was torn down and burned. Finally, the matter cried to Heaven so audibly that in January, Los Angeles Masons appropriated one hundred and fifty dollars, to be added to some five hundred dollars raised by popular subscription; and the Common Council having appointed a committee to supervise the work, William H. Perry put up the fence, making no charge for his services." The question of the City Cemetery is of particular interest to me. It was never an official cemetery which may account to the lack of an exact boundary, especially before the land boom of the 1880s. After that, there was an attempt to register the graves in order to demarcate most of the hill and cemetery for housing development. The registers clearly however clearly listed far fewer people than had actually been buried there. From memory, I think the city register listed less than 200 people as buried there, but even just recently scores of bodies were disinterred for the construction of the current High School for the Arts at Fort Moore Hill. I remember reading somewhere that in the early years following the Mexican American War Protestant people didn't want to bury their kin with the Catholics in the their cemetery by the plaza, but often had no choice. There are stories of people digging up the bodies and reinterring them on the hill. Another noirish story I remember reading in old newspaper clip c. 1920 was about an effort to get rid of whatever was left of the cemetery. It complained about "miasma" from the graves harming the students at the adjacent high school. There was also an article about student using the neglected mausoleums as a public sex environment. There were many notable graves at this unofficial cemetery, most of them moved to one or another of the local cemeteries. Many are at Evergreen and Rosedale. Robert Carlisle, who died in front of the Bella Union after crashing a society wedding party, was reinterred at Rose Hills. On Robert Carlisle, also from Harris Newmark: "While these festivities were taking place, a quarrel, ending in a tragedy, began in the hotel office below. Robert Carlisle, who had married Francisca, daughter of Colonel Isaac Williams, and was the owner of some forty-six thousand acres comprising the Chino Ranch, fell into an altercation with A. J. King, then Under Sheriff, over the outcome of a murder trial; but before any further damage was done, friends separated them. About noon on the following day, however, when people were getting ready to leave for the steamer and everything was life and bustle about the hotel, Frank and Houston King, the Under Sheriff's brothers, passing by the bar-room of the Bella Union and seeing Carlisle inside, entered, drew their six-shooters and began firing at him. Carlisle also drew a revolver and shot Frank King, who died almost instantly. Houston King kept up the fight, and Carlisle, riddled with bullets, dropped to the sidewalk. There King, not yet seriously injured, struck his opponent on the head, the force of the blow breaking his weapon; but Carlisle, a man of iron, put forth his little remaining strength, staggered to the wall, raised his pistol with both hands, took deliberate aim and fired. It was his last, but effective shot, for it penetrated King's body. Carlisle was carried into the hotel and placed on a billiard-table; and there, about three o'clock, he expired. At the first exchange of shots, the people nearby, panic-stricken, fled, and only a merciful Providence prevented the sacrifice of other 348 lives. J. H. Lander was accidentally wounded in the thigh; some eight or ten bystanders had their clothes pierced by stray bullets; and one of the stage-horses dropped where he stood before the hotel door. When the first shot was fired, I was on the corner of Commercial Street, only a short distance away, and reached the scene in time to see Frank King expire and witness Carlisle writhing in agony—a death more striking, considering the murder of Carlisle's brother-in-law, John Rains. Carlisle was buried from the Bella Union at four o'clock the next day. King's funeral took place from A. J. King's residence, two days later, at eight o'clock in the morning. Houston King having recovered, he was tried for Carlisle's murder, but was acquitted; the trial contributing to make the affair one of the most mournful of all tragic events in the early history of Los Angeles, and rendering it impossible to express the horror of the public. One feature only of the terrible contest afforded a certain satisfaction, and that was the splendid exhibition of those qualities, in some respects heroic, so common among the old Californians of that time." I understand that Carlisle had a diamond in each of his front teeth and that grave robbers broke into his tomb and stole his face off. Grave looting, and Carlisle's tomb, in particular, were cited in a news article as another reason for the permanent removal of the cemetery. As to where those recently discovered remains found under the new high school ended-up is a very intriguing question to me. The question is even more noir when I consider that it's probably tied-up with the price of real estate. Seriously, though, I'd like to know where the bodies ended-up. Any help is welcome. |
:previous: Interesting GatoVerde. I like the part where the guy had his face ripped off for his gold teeth. ;) ouch!
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imageshack started a new format today/I'm trying to figure it out. https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/82...0/713/3il7.jpg Does anyone else use imageshack? How do I get my image to show up on the thread? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150...0/713/3il7.jpg ok. I figured that out. Now I have to work on making the damn thing bigger. __ here we go. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/713/3il7.jpg Martin Pal, I wasn't aware of this dam the Rindge family built on their property in the 1920s. thanks for supplying that link. |
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thanks HossC. I think I got it licked. :)
http://<a href="https://imageshack.c...0/706/5em3.jpg/v2/1280x1024q90/706/5em3.jpg[/IMG] maybe not. lol http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/706/5em3.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/706/5em3.jpg whoa. double. -bank at N. Broadway and Avenue 22. (I'm pretty sure we've seen it before, but i'm not certain) __ |
Complete air change every 4 1/2 minutes! Wow
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We wondered what the attraction was to chop suey back then. I wanted to scout around Chinatown to see if any of the old signs were still around. Not a one is still there. The only Chop Suey sign which seems to still exist around L.A. is on the Far East Cafe in Little Tokyo: https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/54...0/833/rfw3.jpg Wikipedia By the way, about a year ago I asked my wife (she's Chinese) what chop suey was and she looked at me like I was nuts. Not the first time that has ever happened though. |
This is an amazing view. I'm still trying to figure out the photographer's exact point of view.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...90/69/j6s1.jpgebay FredH, considering the Wilshire-LaBrea Recreation Center. The cocktail lounge in the building was called the Cabana Room. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9620 __ |
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I wonder how long the beacon was used? This old napkin is from my personal collection. |
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For everyone else, I find it interesting that matchbooks for many restaurants displayed "Dine, Dance, Romance" ahead of more pertinent information on the restaurant. Anyone have a fix on the claim of "Romance?" Now to the beacon, which has an interesting history: The Lindbergh beacon was installed on top of City Hall in 1928. Originally white, the light was replaced with a red light in 1931 after the U.S. Department of Commerce deemed the bright beacon a hazard to air safety. During WWII the light was turned off, relit once in 1947, and finally removed. The Lindbergh beacon was rediscovered in the early 1990s. After restoration, it was put on display in the Tom Bradley International Terminal at LAX and relit for the first time in 45 years on April 22, 1992. The beacon was reinstalled on top of City Hall in 2001 and is lit on special occasions. articles.latimes.com/2001/sep/09/local/me-43908 |
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"FACE CARRIED AWAY FOR TEETH SETTINGS." Los Angeles Times (1886-1922): 2. Aug 10 1907. ProQuest. Web. 10 Jan. 2014 . |
Show us the real tinsel....
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Nate 'n Al's was (and is) at 414 North Beverly Drive and is a Southern California institution. It's obviously still at the same location, although it seems they've expanded into the space formerly occupied by "Bruce's". (Er...sorry Bruce!)
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