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HossC Oct 2, 2022 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9748940)

So if one doesn't like the 1934 or 1963 versions there's three more on the way to sample!

In 1964, the British 'Carry-On' movie series also tackled the story in 'Carry on Cleo'. The films were always made on a shoestring budget, and this one utilized the abandoned 'Cleopatra' sets at Pinewood Studios. From IMDb, "According to Michael Caine. Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor loved "Carry on Cleo" and would often show the film to guests on there Mediterranean yacht. Elizabeth would joke it was a better film than Cleopatra."

So, if you fancy a bawdy, comedy version of Cleopatra, you have a fourth option. You can see the trailer here.

Martin Pal Oct 2, 2022 8:46 PM

HossC, I've seen some of the Carry On movies, but not that one. If I'd known it was related, in a way, to Cleopatra I might have already. Thanks for that info!

ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2022 9:01 PM

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There's also a fifth option if you're into early silent films.

Video Link


"Cleopatra is a silent film created in 1912 by Helen Gardner and the Helen Gardner Picture Players. The film, in which Gardner stars in the title role, was based on a play written by Victorien Sardou.
In a series of elaborately staged tableaux, it depicts Cleopatra (Gardner) and her love affairs, first with handsome fisherman-slave Pharon, then with Marc Antony."





And of course there's the 1917 version of Cleopatra starring Theda Bara. Sadly, only 20 seconds have survived of the two and a half hour long film. (2 1/2 hours! :stunned:)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/mvKtGZ.jpg


"Many believe the film to be among the most elaborate and expensive of its time. The film is known for Bara’s risque outfits
and some claim that her privates were exposed several times throughout the movie."
..traumunddexzes


I highly doubt Theda's va-jay-jay was exposed.

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ethereal_reality Oct 2, 2022 9:34 PM

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re: The mystery pocket park.

I found a Save-Rite market at 7823 So. Pedro St.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/UaSbfy.jpg
1962 city directory

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1a6Ya8.jpg

But the South San Pedro St. area looks nothing like what we see in the eBay photograph. (detail above)


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Noir_Noir Oct 3, 2022 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9748628)

A mystery pocket park.

The seller believes this is Los Angeles and I tend to agree.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/qDhFBb.jpg
eBay

At first glance there doesn't appear to be many clues but if you closer there are several. . .including a bridge in the far distance.

Hmm. .perhaps the amazingly tall palm tree will help us find the location if it's still alive.

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The ebay seller lists San Diego as the other possible location for the picture and I think it is.


The picture features the Serra Palm that stood in San Diego until 1957.

https://i.imgur.com/3KPyqW0.jpg
classicsandiego.com


It was located on Taylor Street. On the other side of the street there was a Save Rite Market.

https://i.imgur.com/TZGTZNi.jpg
sandiego.gov


Area nowadays and general direction the ebay picture looks toward.

https://i.imgur.com/TieMhNs.jpg
Google Maps

UphillDonkey Oct 3, 2022 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9748969)
In 1964, the British 'Carry-On' movie series also tackled the story in 'Carry on Cleo'. The films were always made on a shoestring budget, and this one utilized the abandoned 'Cleopatra' sets at Pinewood Studios. From IMDb, "According to Michael Caine. Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor loved "Carry on Cleo" and would often show the film to guests on there Mediterranean yacht. Elizabeth would joke it was a better film than Cleopatra."

So, if you fancy a bawdy, comedy version of Cleopatra, you have a fourth option. You can see the trailer here.

I grew up in England and Carry On Cleo is always showing on British TV. It's one of the better Carry On movies and definitely worth watching if you can find it streaming somewhere. My "Just Watch" app says that, unfortunately, it's not available to stream at the moment.

ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2022 3:43 AM

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Thanks for figuring out the mystery pocket park location, Noir Noir. Way to go! :)





Ferchaud's Drug Store, Los Angeles


We have already seen an amazing interior photograph of Ferchaud's Drug Store, Here



Two more interior photographs were recently listed on eBay..(note that seller mispelled the name)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/1BtUSh.jpg
eBay no longer listed.



Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/FN9Lm0.jpg

Is that marble?





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/kO39eg.jpg

Candy!



Here's what's written on the back.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/ibNhew.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/jltHZX.jpg


hmm. .they either remodeled or this is a different location.

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ethereal_reality Oct 4, 2022 4:27 AM

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Original snapshot.

"1932 Austin Coupe Car Sea Breeze Auto Camp Huntington Beach CAL"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zjMzv2.jpg
eBay.(no longer listed)





I posted this snapshot of a Sea Breeze Sandwich Shoppe back in March of 2017.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nsBp3h.jpg
Link

It must be the same place!


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CaliNative Oct 4, 2022 7:47 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;9748628].
CaliNative, I'm so sorry to hear that your mother passed... It should be a great comfort to you that she is no longer in pain.

Thank you ER. Keeping busy, getting out of the house, taking walks, and talking to relatives helps with the grief, but each day is a bit easier although I still feel sad at times. It is something we all go through as we age, and the reaper will come for us too. In the meantime, savor what life we have left. Anyway, immortality is overrated unless you are young or middle aged and in good health. Who wants immortality if you feel lousy? So, I am determined to carry on. My mother lived 31.75 years beyond my current age of 70, and was pretty active until the last few years. The bad period of decline and hospitalizations for various maladies didn't really start until a few years ago. Her mind was still active until just a month ago. She had a mostly happy and healthy life.

odinthor Oct 4, 2022 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9750417)
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Original snapshot.

"1932 Austin Coupe Car Sea Breeze Auto Camp Huntington Beach CAL"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zjMzv2.jpg
eBay.(no longer listed)





I posted this snapshot of a Sea Breeze Sandwich Shoppe back in March of 2017.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nsBp3h.jpg
Link

It must be the same place!


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e_r, said Auto Camp was apparently about where 3rd St. would intersect with PCH in Huntington Beach if 3rd St. went all the way through. Here's where 3rd. St. stops now (at Walnut St.); a block forward is PCH, with the beach and ocean beyond. (On PCH, this is about where the old Golden Bear club used to be.) In the other direction, 3rd St. in due course (a couple of blocks) reverts to its old name Lake St. As it happens, I'm extremely familiar with this location.

https://i.postimg.cc/wB9j2zkM/Sea-Breeze-3rd-St.jpg
gsv

https://i.postimg.cc/DZj0mNLZ/Sea-Br...ris-Epling.jpg
From book Vanishing Orange County, by Chris Epling, p. 42.

https://i.postimg.cc/qRjhyqVp/Sea-Breeze-e-Bay.jpg
eBay

They assisted after the Long Beach earthquake:

https://i.postimg.cc/wM1vNkQk/Sea-Br...-1933-3-14.jpg
LA Times, 3/14/1933.

CaliNative Oct 4, 2022 2:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9750555)
e_r, said Auto Camp was apparently about where 3rd St. would intersect with PCH in Huntington Beach if 3rd St. went all the way through. Here's where 3rd. St. stops now (at Walnut St.); a block forward is PCH, with the beach and ocean beyond. (On PCH, this is about where the old Golden Bear club used to be.) In the other direction, 3rd St. in due course (a couple of blocks) reverts to its old name Lake St. As it happens, I'm extremely familiar with this location.

https://i.postimg.cc/wB9j2zkM/Sea-Breeze-3rd-St.jpg
gsv

https://i.postimg.cc/DZj0mNLZ/Sea-Br...ris-Epling.jpg
From book Vanishing Orange County, by Chris Epling, p. 42.

https://i.postimg.cc/qRjhyqVp/Sea-Breeze-e-Bay.jpg
eBay

They assisted after the Long Beach earthquake:

https://i.postimg.cc/wM1vNkQk/Sea-Br...-1933-3-14.jpg
LA Times, 3/14/1933.

Sounds like these auto courts would make a solution for homelessness, at least for those with cars and tents. Cheap even in the 1920s and 1930s. The more recent Kampgrounds of America (KOA) is a modern analog, although their prices have climbed beyond the reach of most homeless.

Noir_Noir Oct 4, 2022 4:12 PM

Pioneer Take Out
 
As far as I can see, we've not had Pioneer Take-Out's corporate headquarters on the thread.

Pioneer occupied the building at 3663 W. 6th Street, NW corner with Ardmore Avenue, from 1974 to the late 1980's.


https://i.imgur.com/cbmTSs9.jpg
flickr.com - Paul Evieth


The building has been a medical center since the early 1990's.


https://i.imgur.com/L0gUU9Z.jpg
GSV

CaliNative Oct 5, 2022 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9749005)
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And of course there's the 1917 version of Cleopatra starring Theda Bara. Sadly, only 20 seconds have survived of the two and a half hour long film. (2 1/2 hours! :stunned:)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/mvKtGZ.jpg


"Many believe the film to be among the most elaborate and expensive of its time. The film is known for Bara’s risque outfits
and some claim that her privates were exposed several times throughout the movie."
..traumunddexzes


I highly doubt Theda's va-jay-jay was exposed.

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:previous:
Theda would probably have to work out and drop a few pounds to be a big star today, or even in the mid 1920s. By the 1920s, the "flapper" ideal favored thinner body types, basically gamin and flat chested bordering on anorexic. Some flappers bound their chests and went on severe diets.

By 1929 and the early 1930s, feminine curves and longer (non bobbed) hair came back into style. Garbo led the way when she came to America and became popular in the late 1920s. Mae West for a brief period exemplified an even more chunky look.

By the mid or late 1930s, a preference for fit, athletic women came into style as more women participated in sports. Paulette Goddard, Hedy Lamarr, Kate Hepburn, etc. Fit, with curves, neither heavy nor extremely flapper thin. It approached the current ideal. Even Garbo dropped some pounds in the 1930s to satisfy the fitness trend. She would walk for miles, a practice she kept into old age when she lived in Manhattan.

Mae West if anything gained weight, but she remained popular as a comic parody of herself, bordering on camp. She laughed all the way to the bank. Her films with WC Fields remain classics of course.

Calinative.

sopas ej Oct 5, 2022 2:20 AM

September 20, 1951. Looking northwest at newly constructed Hollywood Freeway at Santa Monica Boulevard exit. Temporary channelization at left led vehicles to makeshift exit at Western Ave beyond.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c68718f1_b.jpg
LA Examiner Collection

Macy Street Bridge, late 1940s.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2c68178c_b.jpg
Photo by Alan Weeks

Joe Gillis Oct 5, 2022 6:59 AM

Some nice pics in here, many no doubt posted already on here, be interested to see if Humphrey Bogarts house show in one is still there!

https://deadline.com/gallery/history.../color300_036/

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uplo...od1.jpg?w=1280

Noir_Noir Oct 5, 2022 12:18 PM

:previous:


The house is still there at 6310 Rodgerton Drive.


https://i.imgur.com/L6K1e5s.jpg
Google Maps

https://i.imgur.com/Iuz46n3.jpg
legaciesofla.com

https://i.imgur.com/6mfw4Dq.jpg
zillow.com

Snix Oct 5, 2022 11:02 PM

Wow, that Pioneer Take-Out headquarters was by Claud Beelman (1954) who also designed the Eastern Columbia building, Roosevelt, and the Pacific Electric building. He was a big deal.
https://images.findagrave.com/photos...9553f71f6.jpeg
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/.../claud-beelman
Findagrave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9750810)
As far as I can see, we've not had Pioneer Take-Out's corporate headquarters on the thread.

Pioneer occupied the building at 3663 W. 6th Street, NW corner with Ardmore Avenue, from 1974 to the late 1980's.


https://i.imgur.com/cbmTSs9.jpg
flickr.com - Paul Evieth


The building has been a medical center since the early 1990's.


https://i.imgur.com/L0gUU9Z.jpg
GSV


CaliNative Oct 6, 2022 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snix (Post 9752598)
Wow, that Pioneer Take-Out headquarters was by Claud Beelman (1954) who also designed the Eastern Columbia building, Roosevelt, and the Pacific Electric building. He was a big deal.

:previous:
Pioneer had good crispy fried chicken. Much tastier than mushy gooey-battered KFC imho. I wonder why they went out of business? Or are there still Pioneer outlets hiding somewhere? Wikipedia says there are 2 left, one in L.A. and another in Bell Gardens I recall. Wiki also says that 2 former USC students from Indonesia opened up 200 locations in Indonesia based on Pioneer Chicken, but they call them "California Fried Chicken". I wonder if they kept the Pioneer Pete mascot?

CaliNative Oct 6, 2022 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9751666)

The house is still there at 6310 Rodgerton Drive.

https://i.imgur.com/6mfw4Dq.jpg
zillow.com

:previous:
This must have been one of Bogart's earlier houses. Wasn't his last home on the westside, maybe Holmby Hills , Beverly Hills or Bel Air? That faux Tudor house looks wrong for Bogey and Lauren. They must have traded up. Bogey was the honorary head of the first "rat pack" that Frank Sinatra took over after Bogart died of cancer in '57.

Etrue Oct 6, 2022 6:26 AM

Longtime lurker, first time poster. Love this thread.

I have a number of old LA family photos which were taken in mystery locations, and wondering if anyone can help ID where they were photographed.

Here's one:

1956 pic, unknown LA beach location:

https://i.imgur.com/uXkkfAx.jpg


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