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CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 7:53 PM

Mia.....
 
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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6662141)





Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area

The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)


The History of Eating Out in Los Angeles

Origins of Some Local Food Empires
1926 - Orange Julius, Julius Freed, Los Angeles
1941 - Carl's Hot Dog Stand (Carl's Jr.), Carl Karcher, Los Angeles
1948 - In-N-Out, Harry Snyder, Baldwin Park
1948 - Winchell's Donuts, Verne Winchell, Temple City
1952 - Fatburger, Lovie Yancey, Los Angeles
1958 - IHOP, Al Lapin, Toluca Lake
1958 - Sizzler, Culver City
1961 - Wienerschnitzel, John Galardi, Long Beach,
1962 - Taco Bell, Glen Bell, Downey
1972 - The Cheesecake Factory, David Overton, Los Angeles
1972 - Gladstone's 4-Fish, Robert Morris, Malibu
1982 - Islands, Tony DeGrazier, West Lost Angeles
1983 - Panda Express, Ming-Tsai Cherng and son, Andrew Cherng, Pasadena

:previous: Lists from http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi08r.htm


What, no Tom's # 49, Ca. Pizza Kitchen and W. Puck spinoffs? :uhh:

Two world famous eating establishments were oddly missing from the above list:

McDonald's....the McDonald brothers, San Bernardino, CA....1940

Bob's [The Big Boy]....Bob Wian, Glendale, CA....1936

Another runner-up might be the Tiki craze and the Zombie cocktail. Both of these were sort of invented by Don Beach, at his Don the Beachcomber restaurant in Hollywood, circa 1936.

Francis Langford, the famous Hollywood singer and movie star, transplanted the Tiki theme to her restaurant The Outrigger in the 1950s. It was located in her hometown of Jensen Beach, FL.

Godzilla Jul 20, 2014 7:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6662305)
I've also seen claims that the Margarita cocktail was invented by Johnny Durlesser while he was head bartender at the Tail o' the Cock restaurant. He's obviously in a long line of claimants, some of whom can be found here.

:previous: I think that was a "starter" list.

Moscow Mule? http://liquor.com/articles/behind-th...e-moscow-mule/


Then there are the other starter lists for other firsts, e.g., inventions, fashion trends, art and even politics (Major Shaw?).:surrender:

Lwize Jul 20, 2014 8:28 PM

The Original Tommy's should be on the LA list - 1946
Ptomaine Tommy's (unrelated) supposedly invented the chili burger in the 1920's in Lincoln Heights.

Both Phillipe's and Cole's P.E. Buffet claim to have invented the French dip sandwich in the early 20th Century.

HossC Jul 20, 2014 8:46 PM

:previous:

Baskin Robbins was founded in Glendale in 1945. Also, fortune cookies were almost certainly invented in California, although there's a ferocious debate between San Francisco and Los Angeles.

CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6662346)
The Original Tommy's should be on the LA list - 1946
Ptomaine Tommy's (unrelated) supposedly invented the chili burger in the 1920's in Lincoln Heights.

Both Phillipe's and Cole's P.E. Buffet claim to have invented the French dip sandwich in the early 20th Century.

I thought about adding Tommy's. Good that you did, Lwize.

Founder Tommy Koulax standing in front.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse57fd693.jpg
Tommy's archives

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661949)



Here's another view of the crash Tourmaline.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/bc70e2.jpg
-from a series of glass negatives found on ebay.



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ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2014 11:25 PM

One last look at the photo that started the municipal dump conversation.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...743/8a073d.jpg

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6661614)
:previous: That picture is definitely East Washington Boulevard because it shows the General Motors Truck Co at 1850 East Washington Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump1.jpg
USC Digital Library

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This is too cool...
I just found a photograph that show the buildings across from the General Motors Truck Co.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/90ba55.jpgold file of mine

The gate itself is missing, and an obelisk has appeared in the middle of the entrance.





detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/36c742.jpg

It looks like the prominent building has Richfield Oil Company of California written below it's cornice. There's a gas station on the corner as well.


I'll try one more slightly closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...539/7c4ea8.jpg

The other building's rooftop sign says Junior (obviously), but I'm not sure about the word that follows.

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HossC Jul 21, 2014 12:23 AM

:previous:

The sign says "Junior-Norris". Junior-Norris Galvanizing Inc was based at 1823 E Washington Boulevard (according to the 1932 CD). BTW, I did mention that the picture I posted yesterday of the General Motors Truck Co was part of a set with different views of the intersection. Here's a sharper view of the Richfield gas station and some of the buildings. I also like the hanging GMC sign on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump4.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

Albany NY Jul 21, 2014 12:31 AM

Oh, won't you be my neighbor?
 
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Albany NY Jul 21, 2014 12:34 AM

Oh, won't you be my neighbor?
 
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Krell58 Jul 21, 2014 4:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661841)

I wonder if Donald ever said, "I am not a cook".

TangoJuliet Jul 21, 2014 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 6662719)
I wonder if Donald ever said, "I am not a cook".

:lmao:

GaylordWilshire Jul 21, 2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6662536)

It looks to me like the photo of the three Mrs. Hong's was taken in the back yard of 1039 (the house next door). Notice that the detail around the 2nd floor windows matches, as does the underside of the roof eaves. The details of the entryway and first floor windows of the house has changed over the years, but it also looks to be the driveway in which Jr. showed off his Ford. Maybe a simple clerical error in noting the Hong's address?


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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6507163)


Mabel Hong--Mrs. Y. C.--in the back yard of 1045 S Gramercy, which is the not the house in the background...no indication which of the three ladies is Mrs. Hong.


In a shot similar to the one of his father with Hupmobile, here's Y.C.'s son Nowland with his '49 Ford and his brother Roger:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgHDL/HDL


Not that it matters much...but if you look closely, you will see the southwest corner of 1039, with the tall hedge between its driveway and the back yard of 1045. If you were to look in CDs from the '30s into the '60s, you will find Y C Hong listed at 1045 S Gramercy, so it seems unlikely to have been a clerical error of several decades' standing; also, if you check the LA Times, you will find an obituary for Y C Hong's mother in 1937 that gives his address as 1045. As for the second shot, if you look at the house closest to the driveway in the shot of Nowland (a graduate of U.S.C. law school) and his Ford, you will see that it is not 1039 S Gramercy... I'm not sure why you assume that "The details of the entryway and first floor windows of the house has changed over the years." All of the houses to the north of 1039 appear to be remarkably original, of similar vintage, and with even setbacks. The houses on the far side of the Ford don't match at all.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV
Y.C. Hong's 1045 S Gramercy is the leftmost house, with 1039 next door

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2014 2:39 PM

I spy a sidewalk clock.

Hamburger''s Department store all gussied up for the visiting Shriners.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/4e86bf.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/303067.jpg
lacity.org



Here's a closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/b15a67.jpg

...street scene and Anita Cream. :)

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ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2014 3:10 PM

Recently I posted blue tinted (from glass negs) photographs of early Los Angeles fire fighting apparatus-


The seller has added a couple more on ebay. They're pretty amazing.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/9d2f4a.jpg



-ladder truck
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/c89e03.jpg

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Tourmaline Jul 21, 2014 3:59 PM

:previous: Nice find. I am confident that there were even more long-forgotten tower clocks in the So Cal area.


The list of hamburger purveyors recently mentioned is probably a lot longer than most imagine. Very competitive. Addresses for many of these are unknown.



November 1952 - Airport Village I believe this to be in or around Culver City or Westchester
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http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/48832/rec/2

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0


1967 - Carl's[Karcher] Whistle Stop (Anaheim? LA? Karl's first operation was supposedly a 1941-hot dog stand in LA.)
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/68833/rec/1


Hamburger Junction? All aboard.
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0


Ken's "Over a million!"
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http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11592/rec/5


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http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11591/rec/4


Victor Hugo applied for his drivers license here? (Bev Hills? http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=5006)
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0




Ken's Ken's Ken's

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11370/rec/8


http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0


The Burgermat
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...d/63597/rec/10


Jon's
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0



http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Tourmaline Jul 21, 2014 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6662960)
I spy a sidewalk clock.

Hamburger''s Department store all gussied up for the visiting Shriners.


Here's a closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/b15a67.jpg

...street scene and Anita Cream. :)

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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/2279/rec/5

Hiding in plain sight
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
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Tourmaline Jul 21, 2014 4:35 PM

334 S. Hill Street, the Clarmont

1936
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/85855/rec/59




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0


But when it comes to eat'n, try


Oliver's Cafe
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/85855/rec/59

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2014 5:04 PM

:previous: Excellent photographs Tourmaline. I've never seen Oliver's Cafe before. Can you imagine the interesting smells emanating from that place?
That last photo t makes me want to go inside (but I'd avoid the Tripe Italian Style).

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Godzilla Jul 21, 2014 5:45 PM

:previous:Ken's Burgers left me scratching my head regarding the last time I did not have to ask for drinking water. Might have saved on a lot of cups.


Easy on the flouride?
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http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11592/rec/5




1929 - The Pantages makes self-hydration elegant.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014735.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014735.jpg


1937 - Possibly Arroyo Seco Park, now known as Hermon Park, 5566 Via Marisol in Montecito Heights.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098089.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098089.jpg




1937 - Pershing Square
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072143.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072143.jpg





Westlake/MacArthur Park woman at drinking fountain. (No cellphone service?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics02/00010708.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics02/00010708.jpg


Have a sip in this unidentified theater lobby.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015785.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015785.jpg


Still Parched?

1937 - Westport Beach Club, 7301 Vista Del Mar in Playa del Rey. Gone in '84.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096798.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096798.jpg



And if you "caint" find a fountain and don't trust the local zanja . . .


115 South Spring Street - The Fountain Saloon Proprietors: L. B. Wood and J. R. Smith. (Wishbone and Cookie highly recommend the place.)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011861.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011861.jpg


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