Quote:
|
Quote:
The 2018-19 Nielsen rankings feel right to me. I also like that they rank households and not individuals. 1) NYC - 7.10M 2) LA - 5.28M 3) Chicago - 3.25M 4) Philadelphia - 2.82M 5) Dallas - 2.62M 6) D.C. - 2.48M 7) Houston - 2.42M 8) San Francisco - 2.41M 9) Boston - 2.36M 10) Atlanta - 2.34M Interestingly, the media markets agree that some of the cities put into the NYC CSA are more affiliated with Philadelphia. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
I know a lot of people in the area like to think of San Francisco and San Jose as being completely different metros, but the CSA was invented to try to deal with multi-nodal urban areas that share the same major amenities on a regular basis. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
A "real world" example: Katy - Houston's westernmost suburb, lies 31.4 miles from downtown Houston, yet it feels like an extension of Houston (in my opinion). Meanwhile, New Braunfels - the city that another poster claimed was San Antonio's northernmost suburb - is 30.9 miles from downtown San Antonio, but in no way feels like an extension of San Antonio (in my opinion). |
Could we see Orlampa by 2030? With Lakeland part of the Orlando CSA, the Orlando CSA would borders the Tampa MSA. A combined Tampa/Orlando CSA would had a population of 6.2 million in 2010. Probably 7.5 million by 2030.
CSA's in Florida are silly because Florida's counties are just too big. Part of the reason of why the border between Orlando and Tampa gets comlicated is because CSA's use County borders and Polk County is giant. The Tampa Orlando border is probably someone inside of the county and Tampa and Orlando are certainly not connected now. With that giant county between them they just need a certain % commuters in that county to get it in their CSA's. Polk County: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Po...!4d-81.6911559 Here is the Orlando/Tampa border (the "Countyline Rd"): https://www.google.com/maps/place/Po...!4d-81.6911559 |
Quote:
By 2030 the Phoenix metro should be hitting up to 6 million which will land it at number 9 or 10. Unless our CSA grows to include Prescott and the Verde Valley (which it could) we will still be ranked far lower on our CSA ranking becasue the Payson Metropolitan area is so small. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
My 2030 projections (again) below. 1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area 2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA Combined Statistical Area 3. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area 4. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA Combined Statistical Area 5. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI Combined Statistical Area 6. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK Combined Statistical Area 7. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT Combined Statistical Area 8. Houston-The Woodlands, TX Combined Statistical Area 9. Miami-Port St. Lucie-Fort Lauderdale, FL Combined Statistical Area 10. Atlanta–Athens-Clarke County–Sandy Springs, GA-AL Combined Statistical Area 11. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD Combined Statistical Area 12. Phoenix-Mesa, AZ Combined Statistical Area 13. Seattle-Tacoma, WA Combined Statistical Area 14. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI Combined Statistical Area 15. Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona, FL Combined Statistical Area 16. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI Combined Statistical Area 17. Denver-Aurora, CO Combined Statistical Area 18. Portland-Vancouver-Salem, OR-WA Combined Statistical Area 19. Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH Combined Statistical Area 20. Charlotte-Concord, NC-SC Combined Statistical Area |
Quote:
If Prescott is added to the Phoenix CSA that will be an additional 300k+ by 2030, If Tucson did that would be an additional Million. But our CSA ranking at this point is basically at the mercy of how the BLS and Census department define what a CSA is. For Example we didnt even have one at all until this year. Edit: Specifically, if our CSA stays the same: pass Detroit and sit at #12 as you have predicted. If it adds Prescott: Its hard to say it depends on how Atlanta and Philly Grow, it would be fairly tied with both in 10 years potentially edging out one or both. Or could still find itself at #12 If it adds Tucson: This would change everything as it would add 1 million plus people to the CSA that would without a doubt land us at #10 behind Houston If it adds Prescott and Tucson: Not enough to make the difference probably would still be #10 with about ~7.3 million people. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 6:30 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.