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Re open floor plans, modern office buildings come with wide open floor plates that tenants can build out however they see fit, be it open floor plan or a million tiny office pods, so individual office designs is up to the tenants and not the building.
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I'd always preferred privacy, but college architecture studio forced me to work in an open floor plan. I had my own desks and computer but no partitions between me and any of my peers. I was surprised by how easy it was for me to adapt. I've currently got something more than a cubicle but less than an office—no door but eight foot tall 2x4 walls in a warehouse-tyoe building with cathedral ceilings. I hate it. I hate shouting over the walls from my seat, the reduced of face-to-face interaction, and the lack of natural light, and it's for sure easier for me to fall down an internet k-hole. emathias' description rings true for me. |
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I'm more with Notyrview here. As I spend a decent part of my time in heavy duty analysis and writing, I do think that floor plans in recent years have become too wide open. In fact, some companies in the last couple years are realizing that they in fact went too far. However, they and I also realize that it is a balance, that certainly natural light, communication, collaboration, etc etc are indeed considerations that should continue to be part of the equation.....
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Disagree on 2nd part - I do like 130, however Ronan's 151 is the superior design in my book, for its almost 'classic' modern elegance. At any rate, they're both :tup: and, I really think in the not distant future (by end of this year perhaps) both will be officially launched.... |
Different strokes for different folks, and a lot of it depends on the specific needs of the occupier. Having not only worked in a variety of office layouts, but also having designed a variety of corporate office layouts, there is no magic formula for what works best.
I think the renderings in the video were intended solely to provide a visual of a possible layout, and since one of the biggest trends right now is partition-less plan, it's only really a marketing ploy. |
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I have heard some rumblings about this project... hopefully we hear some good news in the coming weeks.
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Thanks for sharing the rumblings. I really want this project to take off because i'm crazy and lay in bed at night thinking about potential towers.
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Nice, this one I am almost more excited for than 150 N Riverside and definitely more excited for than River Point. This part of downtown is going to be an absolute forest of cranes if this starts this year.
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Never noticed how big of an impact this will make from the Randolph and Washington st. bridges
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131580...3/16416233323/ |
This building is nice, is it starting soon?
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can you create one with the skyline? |
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Just hope the design doesn't change. http://www.ctbuh.org/Portals/0/Media...Franklin_4.jpg :) |
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WHEN: Monday April 20 2015 @ 6pm WHERE: 227 West Monroe Rustle & Roux 2nd Fl. Cafeteria |
^ So with this making it this far, we potentially have this one, 444 W Lake, 150 N Riverside, and 151 N Franklin coming out of this boom?
I know some out there are predicting about 4 office towers out of this cycle. |
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^ I'm at - and have been for quite some time - 4-6 large new office towers this cycle.....only talking about traditional 750k+ sq ft, 30+ stories new construction in the actual CBD.....
I'm very excited for 130 N. Franklin as well......another little tight mini-cluster of new ones with this and 151 Franklin......particularly looking forward to getting large new office towers from a couple very talented Chicago architects, for each of which this will be their first here (K+S, Ronan)......... Finally, looks like this one will have great views to the West from upper floors..... |
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This is definitely my favorite design of the current cycle of proposed / UC buildings. Hopefully in the forthcoming meeting about the project we get some info about a start date and tenant. With all the current project proposals and construction the area around the river confluence is going to go from a no mans land of railroad tracks and parking lots to a vibrant cityscape pretty quick. Let's hope this one and 151 n franklin get off the ground.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/131580.../in/datetaken/ Here is a view from a bit further west https://www.flickr.com/photos/131580.../in/datetaken/ And here is a view from the Hancock building https://www.flickr.com/photos/131580.../in/datetaken/ |
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It seems Chicago is starting to pick up again. Especially once the other Wolf Point Towers, Spire site and/if Wanda Vista start going up, hopefully by next year? :shrug: |
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Man, if this hikes up to 780 its gonna be so sickening.
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With 2 or three extra floors it'll probably end up ~730 or so, esentially creating a plateau with the two rising across from Wold Point. While I like all of these buildings it would be nice if there were a little variation. Beggars can't be choosers though, I'm happy Chicago is getting back into the high rise game :) |
^It's so true. This a phenomenal cluster of towers regardless. And I'd be happy with the 696. But it's so much fun to speculate! They could always surprise us with a 100 foot rooftop atrium.
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Just carrying over some reports from the highrise thread:
Folks are reporting over there that (I believe there are documents outlining) we could be looking at 699' to the top of the parapet and 709' (if these don't conflict in some minor way) to the top of the elevator penthouse......so a bit taller than most of the other newer Wacker driver office towers (think 155 N, 1 N, 71 S, 111 S, etc).......I'll take it..... |
^indeed, you can't complain about 709'
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i updated the thread title with the new floor count and what has been rumored to be the new height to the top of the elevator penthouse.
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WHAT: 130 North Franklin, Chicago, Illinois WHEN: Monday, April 20, 2015 at 6:00 pm WHERE: The Franklin - Rustle & Roux - 227 W. Monroe Street, 2nd floor Cafeteria |
What's the over under on the developer announcing an anchor tenant for this project today?
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Just spoke to one of the lawyers on the project and he stated that the building would be 53 stories and 720'.
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751' 6" to the top of the structure.
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Hahaha yasssssss. And a mighty fine peak it'll be!
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Wow they must have added several stories since last fall. I have a floor-to-floor of 13'-3", which means an additional four floors have been added since the previous height figure.
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What about the floor count? Is 53 correct? |
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Here are a few notes from tonights meeting... 53 stories and 720' to the top floor. DC-16 (downtown core) zoning Rich Klawiter (lawyer) from DLA Piper Developed or redevelopers 13.5 million square feet of space here in Chicago the block is about 380' in length 190 parking spaces origami like Retail square footage is up to 14,000 sq ft LEED Silver (possible higher) One way entrance off Washington and exit onto Randolph 25,000 sq ft skygarden Lobby will be about 54' tall The base angles inward from the Randolph alley southeast towards Franklin multiple public plazas of about 19,000 SF 751' 6" to the top of the structure Site area is 63,382 Base FAR is 16 Plaza bonus is 5.07 Total allowable FAR - 21.07 Plaza Area - 20,703 SF Total allowable floor area - 1,377,360 SF Timeline - Filing in spring/summer and approval in the fall and they want to begin construction in 2016 and be completed in 2018 Haven't eliminated the possibility of going speck, but are talking with possible tenants The current surface lot has about 290 parking spaces |
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3 well designed ~750 foot buildings rising near each other is nothing to complain about. Once the other Wolf Point towers go up (hopefully with a height increase) this area of the river is going to be a straight up canyon! |
^Yeah, you bring up a good point. With these towers in place, it will be hard to sell a less-than-supertall project on Wolf Point. The skyline itself will impose it. It must needs be done!
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Thanks for attending and reporting back, BVictor. Were there any new renderings at the presentation? |
^ Was there as well, and yes there were - and this tower is going to be an absolute stunner......really pulling for Tishman Speyer to make this one happen........
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