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sopas ej Mar 20, 2012 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5634182)
sopas_ej, would you post the page of your 1943 Atlas that shows this same area of Laurel Canyon? I have found very few old maps of that area, and wonder if it would reveal anything about the old roads that I'm still trying to identify. Plus I am just plain curious to see it. Thanks.

Sure, I'll see what I can do. My scanner at home is broken and I haven't replaced it, so I'll have to take photos with my camera and see if they come out clearly, then I will post it. I'm currently at work (on my lunch break, actually) but when I get home, I'll work on posting it. :)

GaylordWilshire Mar 20, 2012 8:40 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y...lingtonbig.jpgLAPL

An off-ramp of the 10 has replaced this interesting house once at the northwest the corner of 23rd and Arlington. (The freeway plows between the back of this house and the one you see in the background, also gone.)

3940dxer Mar 20, 2012 9:01 PM

Cahuenga Pass Then And Now
 
We've seen this great old Cahuenga Pass shot a few times on this thread. I love it and always think of it when I drive the 101 between Hollywood and the Valley. It's dated 1905, but just where was it taken?

http://dkse.net/david/Cahuenga/Cahuenga.pass.1905.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/


I had to know, so I started with Google Satellite. Hmm, it sure seems to resemble that section near the parking lot, across the 101 from the Hollywood Bowl:

http://dkse.net/david/Cahuenga/Cahuenga.sat.958.jpg
http://google.com


So this afternoon, on an errand to Hollywood I pulled over near Hillpark Drive and walked around a bit. Bingo! I took this photo from the 101 overpass near the Ford Theater:

http://dkse.net/david/Cahuenga/100_6498.958b.jpg

The Highland Ave exit ramp is off frame to the right; the Ford Theater is to my left. The hilly area ahead on the right is of course Whitley Heights, bisected when the 101 was cut through the area. The 101 here is elevated by columns and grading so we can't see the original canyon floor or the the lower part of Whitley Heights, making the hills there look less high than in the early photo. The two groups and their horse drawn wagons are heading towards the San Fernando Valley, and probably passed through Hollywood (then called Nopalera I think) an hour or so before being immortalized in the photo.

Ah...closure. ;)

ethereal_reality Mar 20, 2012 10:51 PM

:previous: Nice post David.




The Clifford Street School fire in 1915.

http://a.imageshack.us/img828/44/cli...tschoolfir.jpg
http://socal-yearbooks.com/socalother/aselem.html




below: The Clifford Street School in 1950.

http://a.imageshack.us/img809/3282/c...school1954.jpg
http://socal-yearbooks.com/socalother/aselem.html

radio63 Mar 21, 2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5630490)


Yes that is correct, the west side of the sign simply said "CBS", in large neon. The east side always said "CBS Station KNX" in smaller neon. In the 1950s or 60s, the neon signs was replaced by large non-illuminated letters that just said "CBS".

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2012 12:55 AM

nice design

http://a.imageshack.us/img338/3188/c...klette1928.jpg
ebay

cleats Mar 21, 2012 1:08 AM

Murrietta building- Pearl Morton's establishment
 
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6...c1848f8a_b.jpg

From Rick M, taken from a Gentlemen's Sporting Guide of the 1890's 327 New High street...where Pearl Morton ran her house...moral turpitude in Los Angeles

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 1:13 AM

Obscure Paul Revere Williams Architecture, part 1
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520PM.bmp.jpg The Crisis November 1923

I came across this jewel-box of a Los Angeles funeral parlor online, which turns out to have been an early work by
Paul Williams--note the classical details that would become one of his hallmarks. It was the Conner-Johnson
Mortuary at 1400 East 17th Street, at Naomi...sadly, now a parking lot.


It's not by Paul Williams, but nearby at the the corner of 18th and Naomi is the Hamilton Methodist Church, now,
sans the church's best windows, the Christian Light Missionary Baptist Church:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520PM.bmp.jpg
An eclectic roofline, including a witch's hat and a bit of the Alamo. The finial on the main tower is (mostly) still there....


Three pics just above: Google SV

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 1:14 AM

Obscure Paul Revere Williams Architecture, part 2
 
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/RusticCanyon4.JPGDave's Web

These gates have been attributed to Paul Williams by one historian; whether or not Williams designed anything that
was actually built at the end of the driveway is unclear. But at least one historian claims that he designed Murphy
Ranch in Rustic Canyon, supposedly a bunker for Nazi sympathizers and intended to be the headquarters for Hitler's
eventual takeover of the U.S.: See Huffington Post and LACurbed.


I know it was touched on a year or so ago:
Quote:

Originally Posted by LAboomer52 (Post 5202621)
and the rumored para-military compound located in a Canyon in Brentwood, (Rustic canyon) adjacent to Will Roger's Estate, a sprawling fifty-acre property known as the “Murphy Ranch” which was a self-sufficient community with three thousand fruit trees, underground tunnels and bomb shelters, several houses and a power station capable of producing electricity.

(LAboomer52's full post here.)


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...2520PM.bmp.jpgNoise Collusion
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...2520PM.bmp.jpghikespeak.com
The exterior and interior of the powerhouse. Did Williams design this? Was the 22-bedroom
main house he drew up ever built?


And more here:
hikespeak.com

I can find no reference in an admittedly cursory check of any reference to Paul Williams having
designed this on any sites devoted to his work.

sopas ej Mar 21, 2012 1:19 AM

Here you go, David. Forgive the quality of the images. I hope I got the area you wanted. Great Cahuenga Pass photos you posted!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5253/renie3.jpg
Renie Atlas 1943

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7581/renie2.jpg
Renie Atlas 1943

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1281/renie1.jpg
Renie Atlas 1943

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1231/renie4.jpg
Renie Atlas 1943

I'm wondering if "NAPPY LN." is a misspelling. On my Thomas Guide, it's "HAPPY LN." I like that you can see the PE car route through the Cahuenga Pass, and then it goes north on Vineland.

Oh, and here's the Doheny Estate, now Trousdale Estates:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2341/renie5.jpg
Renie Atlas 1943

3940dxer Mar 21, 2012 1:59 AM

sopas_ej, thanks a lot for posting the maps. I will study them and see if I can pick out any new details.

G_W, I have visited Murphy Ranch (the Nazi compound) twice, have done a fair amount of research on it, and have been planning to do a long post here with pictures...when I have time. :)

BTW, my personal site is off line at the moment and all my photos here seem to be MIA. I freaked out when I first saw this but all will be restored before long, I promise!

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2012 2:23 AM

below: A somewhat obscure film noir from 1954 starring Fred MacMurray and Kim Novak.

http://a.imageshack.us/img41/9260/magnoliath1g.jpg
http://annyas.com/screenshots/update...orothy-malone/

above: Columbia Pictures....just across the street from Dillon's Copper Skillet.



below: In this scene you get a glimpse of a theater at far right.

http://a.imageshack.us/img824/841/ma...erpushover.jpg
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...1_archive.html (thank you Robby Cress)




below: It turns out this is the Magnolia Theater located at 4403 W. Magnolia Avenue in Burbank.

http://a.imageshack.us/img845/5170/m...ersnapctre.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1649/photos/28939





below: The theater stills stands on Magnolia Avenue......but it looks like it's been covered in marzipan. :(

http://a.imageshack.us/img268/7699/m...eatertoday.jpg
google street view

____

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 12:03 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520AM.bmp.jpgThe Museum of the San Fernando Valley

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2012 3:45 PM

:previous: We think alike G_W...I was going to post that same photo last night.

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2012 3:57 PM

Here are a few others. :)




http://a.imageshack.us/img32/8454/nbcaerialwmark.jpg
http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipowe...oducts_id/2816






http://a.imageshack.us/img705/9414/n...ypostcard4.jpg
postcard view






http://a.imageshack.us/img860/1466/n...1960flickr.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/funimages/2712342804/



below: pre-peacock logo 1954.

http://a.imageshack.us/img841/5435/nbcchimelogo1954.jpg

ethereal_reality Mar 21, 2012 4:06 PM

oops....forgot this one from 1952.


http://a.imageshack.us/img545/7017/a...nk1952lapl.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...M-N-9706-002~3

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5635894)


Great shots, e_r--and I'd forgotten about the chime logo.

Click here to hear the chimes.

BrandonJXN Mar 21, 2012 6:02 PM

I have a question: I recently moved to Westlake (on Union Drive above 6th Street) and I was wondering if anyone has any pics of the area from way back when?

Anyway, AWESOME AWESOME thread. Thanks to you all.

:tup:

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 7:11 PM

:previous:

300: Just search "Westlake" on these two websites--there are hundreds of pics on these two sites alone.

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/photosearchADV.jsp?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...mplesearch.htm

Check them out and post some here for us.

GaylordWilshire Mar 21, 2012 8:26 PM

FULL UPDATED STORY HERE: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...tories_12.html


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL/USCDL

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogleSV


John Parkinson, as we've seen, built alot of iconic and still-extant Los Angeles buildings. He designed the Homer Laughlin Building on Broadway (a.k.a. the Grand Central Market) and the Braly Block (a.k.a. Continental Building) on Spring; with his early partner Edwin Bergstrom he designed the A. G. Bartlett building (a.k.a. Union Oil) on 7th; with his son Donald at the firm from 1920, he designed City Hall with Albert Martin; later works of the Parkinson firm include Bullocks-Wilshire as well as Union Station and many other downtown buildings.

Above is the architect's own house at the southeast corner of 6th and St. Paul (top left, brand new, ca. 1909). If it lasted until after WWII, it looks like alot of earth must have been removed with it to make way for the building on the corner now, built in 1948 for Westinghouse's Engineering and Sales Staff... even if it's not the home of a famous L.A. architect, its late-Streamline details make for a pretty interesting architectural relic of noir-era L.A. (Apparently it's now the home of L.A. Wilshire Orthopaedic and Medical Associates.)


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