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ethereal_reality Feb 22, 2023 3:38 AM

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We've seen Agriculture Park on NLA. . .

. . .but I believe the following two images of the race track located in the park are new to NLA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/0Z3Jjg.jpg
Currently on eBay




This one sold a few weeks ago.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Vljzu7.jpg
eBay

Note the observation tower. (or is it a water tank?)


If interested:

Here's an earlier post on the Agriculture Park Hotel with Sanborn maps provided by Flyingwedge.


There are probably more posts (on Agriculture Park) that I've overlooked.

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Snix Feb 22, 2023 6:01 AM

A clearer photo of the menu from Swally's at 2611 E. Olympic (alternately listed as 1331 S. Boyle Ave.) in Boyle Heights has appeared on eBay.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f8c00d04_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...10d2e1f2_b.jpg
eBay
If this ad is to be believed, Swally's was there from 1928...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...61d0b0c6_m.jpg
LAT3.12.67
...Until 1972
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c8c299cf_z.jpg
LAT 8.30.72
Neat insight from this late-in-life profile...
The first "key club" west of the Mississippi? What did this mean in the 30s? The Kiwanis thing?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5eceffe0_z.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...981b1da5_z.jpg
LAT2.12.67

Demolished in 1992, and apartments are now on the site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8935192)
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Hey folks, here's a restaurant we haven't seen on NLA.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/G8Awhs.jpg
eBay

Boyle and Olympic Aves....................................................................................................Los Angeles


It appears to have been just north, and in the shadow, of the monolithic Sears Store.







A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/k7jQ1z.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kP9rZF.jpg




I wasn't going to post the inside of the menu because it's difficult to read.

.....................................................................................................................................................I changed my mind.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nrLAan.jpg
eBay

Now I'm hungry. :).......Bon Appetit!


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riichkay Feb 23, 2023 1:39 AM

Much consternation these days over high DWP bills, seems it was ever thus.....



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


The collector's notes describe this as "a remarkable polemic map on the back of a 1922 electric bill!"....

From the Persuasive Cartography collection at Cornell....color me impressed that someone has made a study of "Persuasive Cartography".....here's the billing side....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Snix Feb 23, 2023 2:42 AM

DWARFLAND! I think you've found the best-ever photo of the exhibit set up in the median outside of the Carthay Circle to promote "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"
https://blog.animationstudies.org/wp...wilshire1.jpeg
https://blog.animationstudies.org/?p=2244
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aDid-l-Mx...ankswhouse.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XKqJ_6h64...dendshotRR.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WGtB-6yVV...dwarfland2.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yrkRrkDLB...dwarfland3.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tDJhxYnkq...rflandexit.jpg
https://filmic-light.blogspot.com/20...-premiere.html


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7886914)
:previous: This is such a great photo Godzilla Precarious indeed!
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oldstuff, thanks for background info and house address of the Lampmans in Santa Monica. As always, I appreciate your research. :)

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Thanks for figuring out the location of the #5 flood snapshot FW. I was stumped.

The ebay seller with the 1934 flood photos also has two 'mystery' photos. (shown below)

"somewhere in Los Angeles"

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/CYdWyQ.jpg
ebay




#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nSHHdT.jpg
ebay

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Snix Feb 23, 2023 7:00 AM

I wanted to know a little more about that Musso's restaurant in the background of the Dwarfland photos. Owner Joseph L. Musso (1880-1946) was indeed the same Musso of Musso and Frank in Hollywood.
https://images.findagrave.com/photos...1437784624.jpg
Richard Rovere/Findagrave.com
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5798143b_z.jpg
Los Angeles Evening Citizen News 7.8.46
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He opened Musso's restaurant in a converted house at 6300 Wilshire in 1934
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7120ac37_z.jpg
LAT2.19.34
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...292c8833_z.jpg
1937
Works Progress Administration Collection/Los Angeles Public Library
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e32e28b5_z.jpg
A dinner dance for the Los Angeles Chinese Tennis Club at Musso's Restaurant, 1934
Shades of L.A. Collection/Los Angeles Public Library
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...539e0b81_z.jpg
Patio at night
Security Pacific National Bank Collection/Los Angeles Public Library
https://live.staticflickr.com/2336/2...0d5fc1f7_b.jpg
Jericlcat/Flickr

Musso's closed in 1939 and reopened as Carder's in early 1940
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...652c7c2b_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b8908cf1_b.jpg
eBay
https://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.fil...cover-1940.jpg
https://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.wor...nu-cover-1940/
Here's the noirish part. The place is robbed by a mustachioed bandit...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c134efba_m.jpg
LAT9.24.44
...and less than two years later, Mr. Musso (I'm presuming the landlord) dies and Carder's becomes Schroeder's restaurant
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...889d6263_w.jpg
LAT4.13.46
Schroeder's lasts a year and is gone
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...061fcd599b.jpg
LAT8.17.47
THEN the place becomes a short-lived art gallery, the Municipal Art Department with an exhibit celebrating the 500th birthday of Leonardo DaVinci
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...86eb876f_z.jpg
LAT11.13.52
before a demolition permit is issued in 1953. The land sits empty until
1972 when architect Maxwell Starkman builds the Zenith National Insurance Company building that sits there today.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0ba42bc_z.jpg"
GSV






Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7886914)
:previous: This is such a great photo Godzilla Precarious indeed!
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oldstuff, thanks for background info and house address of the Lampmans in Santa Monica. As always, I appreciate your research. :)

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Thanks for figuring out the location of the #5 flood snapshot FW. I was stumped.

The ebay seller with the 1934 flood photos also has two 'mystery' photos. (shown below)

"somewhere in Los Angeles"

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/CYdWyQ.jpg
ebay




#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/nSHHdT.jpg
ebay

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ethereal_reality Feb 23, 2023 9:49 PM

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Hey noirishers. ..I need some help finding this four three story building that is located somewhere along Heliotrope Drive.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dAOQov.jpg
eBay



Reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gJT4y9.jpg

The photograph was on eBay (along with other 'Payne' photographs of trollies) a few weeks ago. (no longer listed)

for search purposes: A M Payne 6/47
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HenryHuntington Feb 24, 2023 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9874249)
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Hey noirishers. ..I need some help finding this four three story building that is located somewhere along Heliotrope Drive.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dAOQov.jpg
eBay



Reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gJT4y9.jpg

The photograph was on eBay (along with other 'Payne' photographs of trollies) a few weeks ago. (no longer listed)

for search purposes: A M Payne 6/47
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_________________

You rang?

This apartment building actually fronts on Rosewood Ave. (at 4160). The photo shows its southwest corner from Heliotrope Dr.

The LATL H Line car is heading south on Heliotrope toward Beverly Blvd.

And while I'm here, the phtographer was Andres M. "Andy" Payne, who was a streetcar operator for LATL in those days. He was a noted railfan/photographer.

ethereal_reality Feb 24, 2023 4:37 AM

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:previous:

Thanks Huntington!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7zVyBZ.jpg
GSV

THis is pretty much the same view as in the Pacific Electric photograph. (April 1947) - from Heliotrope Drive.





Imagine my surprise when I turned the corner at Rosewood Ave. and saw the front of the apartment building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nykLtG.jpg
GSV

Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) we have visited this building in the past on NLA. If memory serves me there's a photograph of the building before all the ugly stucco was plastered on it.

Does anyone remember the old post :shrug:


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ethereal_reality Feb 24, 2023 5:00 AM

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mystery location.


Here's another Pacific Electric photograph recently on eBay. (it's possible we've seen this on NLA in the past)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gGi6Qh.jpg
eBay

Does anyone recognize the restaurant and the cocktail lounge?


reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/lSoYd8.jpg

No clues other than the date. . Sept. 2, 1950 (and 977M)



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HenryHuntington Feb 25, 2023 1:39 AM

The building in the photo is listed these days at 912 S. Hill St. Unfortunately, the City Street Diectories for 1956 and 1960 (closest available) show no listings at all at that address. The first even-numbered listing is Gary's Tux Rental (sign partially visible in the photo) at 914. The building itself still stands as a parking garage with no occupants of the ground floor retail spaces.

Perhps someone with a better monitor than mine can make out the name on the neon sign.

Mackerm Feb 25, 2023 10:59 AM

:previous:
The 1956 street directory has a listing at 228 W. 9th St. for Dr. Sherman's Foot Relief Shop, which jibes with the "weak feet" sign

Lwize Feb 25, 2023 2:29 PM

That Carder's menu makes my eyes water.
$1.75 for a steak dinner in 1940.

The menu also reads 10% service charge and 3% sales tax.

ethereal_reality Feb 25, 2023 5:25 PM

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:previous:

E X C E L L E N T posts on DWARFLAND and the restaurants & menus, Snix...I appreciate all the hard work. :worship:

And guess what, I have a menu to add to your collection.

We've seen Eleda once way back in 2014. The other day I happened upon a menu for the place on eBay


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/z5cEaG.jpg
eBay


A look inside.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/6ICYqK.jpg




Cocktails anyone? :drunk:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/VIDz2D.jpg

hmm. .did they expect you to send the entire menu in the mail? . . .

. . because if you cut it off at the line above where the postage is supposed to be it wouldn't have the name Eleda on the other side, it would have the lower right side of the menu.

I think the menu designer might have messed up.


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Engineeral Feb 25, 2023 7:31 PM

Colorado Street Bridge - 1923
 
I found some old Pacific Electric employee magazines on The Internet Archive. Here's a picture of a nice bridge in Pasadena from 1923. The bridge is still there and looks to be in good condition although you probably can't walk across it any more.
https://i.imgur.com/rHhvj2W.jpg
Source: https://archive.org/details/pe-mag-1...ct-10/mode/2up
The magazine has this description:
Cover Illustration
This month's cover picture gives an interesting glimpse of the Colorado Street Bridge, which authorities has proclaimed as an epoch in bridge building, and in which both grace and stability are prominently embodied. This handsome structure completes the connecting link between Pasadena and Glendale and is the open highway to Flintridge and La Canada. From it a most inspiring view can be had of the Arroyo and surrounding territory and visitors to the Southland seldom fail to include it in their itinerary.

The Colorado Street bridge is built of reinforced concrete and is 1468 feet in length. Its height is 144 feet and its greatest span measures 230 feet. It was built jointly by the City of Pasadena and Los Angeles County at a cost of $230,000.

Here is a current Bing Maps oblique view:
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=f1186...=2&form=S00027

Engineeral Feb 25, 2023 11:36 PM

Fullerton - Gem City of the Southland
 
Also from the October 1923 PE employees' magazine at the Internet Archive is this montage of buildings in Fullerton:
https://i.imgur.com/m83dcXB.jpg
Source: https://archive.org/details/pe-mag-1...ct-10/mode/2up
I was able to find one survivor (there may be more). The commercial block in the lower left corner is still standing, and in good shape, at 122 N. Harbor Boulevard (at E. Amerage Avenue):
https://i.imgur.com/KxGHfuc.jpg

nealberke Feb 26, 2023 3:29 AM

Foods I've not heard about in years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9875932)
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:previous:

E X C E L L E N T posts on DWARFLAND and the restaurants & menus, Snix...I appreciate all the hard work. :worship:

And guess what, I have a menu to add to your collection.

We've seen Eleda once way back in 2014. The other day I happened upon a menu for the place on eBay


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/z5cEaG.jpg
eBay


A look inside.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/6ICYqK.jpg




Cocktails anyone? :drunk:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/VIDz2D.jpg

hmm. .did they expect you to send the entire menu in the mail? . . .

. . because if you cut it off at the line above where the postage is supposed to be it wouldn't have the name Eleda on the other side, it would have the lower right side of the menu.

I think the menu designer might have messed up.


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I can't remember the last time I saw "Barracuda" on a menu. I've not seen "Swordfish" in years. And, I've never seen "Turkey Livers" on a menu. Not giblets, just the livers. I've never been to "Eleda" but I'm sorry they are gone.

Godzilla Feb 26, 2023 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealberke (Post 9876273)
I can't remember the last time I saw "Barracuda" on a menu.


Quote:

Eating meat from a barracuda longer than 3.5ft in length is not advisable under any circumstances and can cause severe symptoms such as vomiting, nausea, and even diarrhea. Symptoms can start as soon as 3 hours after eating, and can last for 30. If in doubt, do not eat barracuda. If you do not know where it has come from and cannot be sure how large the fish was when it was alive, it is better not to take the chance.
https://catchandfillet.com/can-you-eat-a-barracuda/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciguatera_fish_poisoning
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Poisoning.aspx









https://catchandfillet.com/wp-conten...3Awebp%2Fngcb1https://catchandfillet.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Can-You-Eat-a-Barracuda.jpg?ezimgfmt=ng%3Awebp%2Fngcb

Hollywood Graham Feb 26, 2023 4:55 PM

WOW !!! 3000 pages of pure nostalgia of L.A. and area......Congratulations....

Martin Pal Feb 26, 2023 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engineeral (Post 9876000)
I found some old Pacific Electric employee magazines on The Internet Archive. Here's a picture of a nice bridge in Pasadena from 1923. The bridge is still there and looks to be in good condition although you probably can't walk across it any more.
https://i.imgur.com/rHhvj2W.jpg
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Nice cover photo, Engineeral!

I don't know if you can walk across it any more, or if it's even advisable, but they did film on the bridge in 2016 for a montage sequence in La La Land.

https://www.seeing-stars.com/Locatio...nd/Bridge1.jpg

Actually, the La La Land Locations website I got this photo from, HERE, indicates that one can indeed still walk across this bridge.

Lwize Feb 26, 2023 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 9876487)
WOW !!! 3000 pages of pure nostalgia of L.A. and area......Congratulations....

It's page 2400.


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