There will be that. This is just one tower of many for the innovation district. Condos btw are a big portion of it too.

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...3640607.735719
very very good article about the AAF. must read please

Bay Link group balks at study, but urges cities to get started with light-rail system


Hopefully they will be approved within 90 days and they will decide.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e20272497.html

Let the speculation begin.

http://www.biscaynetimes.com/index.p...cayne-corridor
another very good article

http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...wsuit-outcome/
good news ???

oldhttp://media.bizj.us/view/img/315276...rlando-map.jpg

Is going to be great having that connection. I miss Orlando. Land of the crapload of lakes. :)

Its always just refreshing during the cold season up North to fly down there, and say, damn its hot.

Yeah it is as they have a failsafe against any negative implications of the lawsuit. Project is moving along. Nothing to worry about.

Yeah, me too. I miss Florida. :( I remember Orlando. I haven't been at MCO for a very long time. My last time that I flew on Comair by operated Delta Connection. I remember everything.

From planes to trains: Robert Crandall joins opposition to All Aboard
 

1) Not to play ‘battle of the modes’ but I don’t know what it is about passenger rail that seems to drive some people crazy and mad. Unfortunately, passenger rail investments have become another of the ‘cultural war’ issues.

2) Bob Crandall is a smart person—I don’t know what is so difficult to figure out that a large part of the business case for the All Aboard Florida rail project comes from real estate development at the stations and land surrounding the stations. Florida East Coast Industries, which is building the rail line, is a large, savvy, real estate developer and is developing large plots of land, including in downtown Miami, around most of the stations that it owns. Mobility and increased connectivity greatly enhances land values. Mr. Crandall likely only sees this as a transportation investment and not as a significant real estate play. At a Transportation Research Board session a few years ago, I heard one of the executives from either JR East or JR Central in Japan note that something like half of the company’s revenue comes not from the rail operations but from the real estate development.


From planes to trains: Robert Crandall joins opposition to All Aboard

Palm Beach Post
May 22, 2015

"Robert Crandall was a titan of the airline industry in the rollicking days of deregulation, and at 79, his heart still pumps jet fuel.

Today, though, he's got another transportation project in his crosshairs -- All Aboard Florida's $2.9 billion express passenger rail.

Crandall, a winter resident of Palm City, is on the steering committee of the anti-All Aboard Florida group Citizens Against Rail Expansion. When he joined the opposition, it bolstered the rag tag effort of grassroots organizers who were taking on All Aboard Florida..."

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/ma...S_4745_32454-1

So an old fossil uses his money and influence to try to prevent progress. The airlines themselves, of which he was a part of, have sown the seeds of competition. People are increasingly growing weary of the misery that has become of airline travel, and increasingly crowded highways are doing likewise. This project is developing because there is a perceived increasing demand for a transportation alternative over a moderate distance that is more hassle-free. It will certainly be time competitive.

It is too bad that we don't see these influential people provide a better vision, but at that age, perhaps, there is no vision left. At this point, the only immediate action is what he can stop from happening. It is pretty sad.

Let's face it, North America was at the forefront of transportation in much of the 20th century but now the auto age is starting to pass, and North America will increasingly fall behind if projects such as this don't get off the ground.

I probably know the answer already, but will SunRail provide a local connection to this project when it opens? It seems to me that a local connection to the downtown area will be extremely useful.

SunRail, or someone else, may or may not provide a transit connection to downtown Orlando. All Aboard Florida has no plans to do so. But Orlando is building a transit hub at the airport where AAF will terminate. Buses, vans, limos, rent-a-cars will all connect with the trains at the hub. You will not be in the middle of nowhere without options to get to where you want to go. Although I believe more would rather go to Orlando's various resorts than downtown.

I'm still skeptical but AMT intends to break ground this summer on a 13.7-mile privately funded maglev system that would connect the airport/AAF to Florida Mall, the convention center and the I-Drive corridor. As for Sunrail, it's possible that it could be extended to the airport's terminal but that would require additional cash from the state that's not been earmarked at this point.

anybody know the AMT maglev route around the I-Drive area???
the Sunrail expansion to the airport arrives from the south
the maglev arrives from the north connecting to airport station.

93$-143$ miami to orlando
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...528-story.html

All Aboard Florida unveils plans for tower beside downtown station

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ne...beside-/nmTHd/

You may not agree with his views, but that "old fossil" has contributed more to the U.S. economy in his life than most formers here. Maybe instead of resorting to ageism, show a little respect to a business/management genius. Let's see how much you have accomplished by 79.

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...tmlstory.html#
New News about Fort lauderdale Tower

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Is that light rail or monorail? :???::???:

He's being a NIMBY. I don't fucking care what he's done, he's clearly just opposing the opposition -- and looking ridiculous doing so.
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Supposed to be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglev

Nobody's built a maglev system in the US yet, so this would be the first.

Well, more accurately, it's this.
It's essentially a train with the "maglev" on the actual rolling stock, not the track.
It essentially just uses magnets to operate the motors (with an onboard capacitor, I imagine) to move the train along the tracks...however, the train sits upon the components, so it isn't being levitated.

http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...g?format=1000w

• Video Link

*I think it's a really clever idea, and is a much better alternative to using rubber-wheeled trains. It also should save on cost, as the tracks are essentially "dumb."

wow Big news for miami station Tri-Rail gets approved
and the downtown station gets more bigger......
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e23727115.html
and...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e23690908.html

http://miami.curbed.com/archives/201...n-triangle.php

better shows the expansion area, isnt this where the supertall is??

three questions:

1) the tri-rail extension to pompano on the SEC tracks, are these the same tracks that AAF would use until the junction? if so, hm.
2) how likely is it that the tri-rail funds will come through? and is it possible that miami is negotiating with them to tie their portion of tri-rail funds to the air rights issue?
3) do we know what portion of the AAF tracks will be elevated like they are at government center?

great news all around. looks like a fantastic project and that extra tower they've just proposed will be another great addition to the area. it's hard to imagine what miami could look like in 2020, with the station complex, the innovation district, the sky tower thing, the huge mall between the station and the water, and everything else in brickell as a matter of course. throw in the stadium, metro mover extension and who knows what else (genting development?) and it's pretty staggering. downtown miami is pretty much a massive parking crater wasteland, would be amazing to be able to walk/metro move between actual neighborhoods.

anybody know about the the land swap area ??
near the old arena ??

Yes, this is where they used to be. I remember we went to Circus years ago since I was young. I remember the old Arena and now, it's gone.

Breaking: All Aboard Florida seeks construction manager for Orlando rail route

"All Aboard Florida is close to naming a contractor that will oversee the construction of the 35-mile Orlando leg of the $2.5 billion Miami-to-Orlando passenger rail corridor"
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"The Coral Gables-based firm on June 29 expects to award a construction management contract that would include building the new railway and roadway from Cocoa to Orlando and structures within Orlando International Airport for the new passenger train and its related projects."

"All Aboard on June 11 collected qualifications from firms interested in the project, which is slated to be completed by Aug. 31, 2017."

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/b...struction.html

https://www.youtube.com/user/allaboardflorida/feed
new video up with update....

to answer partially my second question, it looks pretty good for the tri rail station at miami central http://miamiherald.typepad.com/naked...h-demands.html

nice link to miamiherald, click the link(in the article)
about the secret railroad police. maybe some one knows how to post?

dont know much about the air rights thing
more important is the land swap thing so they build a 5th tower.
next to the supertall (in phase 2)

http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...n-this-summer/
post talks about youtube video

very good article AND good video
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...626-story.html

Can you describe what's in the article for those who aren't Sun Sentinel subscribers?

yeah it was update construction with video
sometimes the sun-sentinel works for me, stupid web sites.
check out this link - nifty web design.....
http://www.pressreader.com/usa/sun-s...68070/TextView

Anyone out there have any inside info on what the coaches for AAF will look like? I know that both the loco (Charger) and coaches are being built by Siemens and a snippet I read says the coaches will be stainless steel, even though all prelim images show painted cars...

I don't have any inside information, but here's a link that shows all the existing Siemens passenger car possibilities excluding ICE 3 train sets.

https://www.mobility.siemens.com/mob...schuere-en.pdf

Note: The modular designs accommodate both high and low floor platforms! ;)

more funding for tri rail
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...downtown-link/

try this link, the video works, but the article not so much...
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...iamicen/nmqJQ/
also more new youtube videos, the Ft Laud station now includes 160,000 office with garage.
I think this is new news??
https://www.youtube.com/user/allaboardflorida/videos

trains
http://www.businessinsider.com/sc/wh...-trains-2015-7

more new videos on the youtube page

as for getting tri-rail into the miami central, it looks like all it needs now is for the state to come through: http://therealdeal.com/miami/blog/20...mmission-vote/

so it'll be a hub for aaf, metromover, metrorail, tri-rail and trolley. a true central station. positioning miami very very well for the 21st century

tri-rail gets more money today july 27
http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...lized-tonight/

Miami S.E.Overtown/Park West Community Redevelopment Agency approves Tri-rail
 

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The $69 million dollar funding gap to bring the Tri-Rail Commuter Rail to the All Aboard Florida train station in downtown Miami is now intact! This is a victory today in S.E. Florida's mass transit system!