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ocman Jul 9, 2022 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9671709)
I'd still say improving and upgrading the Northeast Corridor is at least slightly more important to the country's than California's High Speed Rail project is. The Northeast Corridor's population is over 82 million.

But that’s my point. Why does it matter that other areas are more needy? We are brainwashed into this system where states provide the bulk of financing and consider it a gift that the feds give us anything. Really, the feds should be taking the bulk of financing for something considered basic in other countries, but weve been brainwashed into believing its some type of privilege and they owe us nothing.

Busy Bee Jul 10, 2022 12:13 AM

Federal gov should be offering 80/20 split to every worthy needed project.

jmecklenborg Jul 12, 2022 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9671709)
I'd still say improving and upgrading the Northeast Corridor is at least slightly more important to the country's than California's High Speed Rail project is. The Northeast Corridor's population is over 82 million.

Agreed, but the two corridors are technically apples/oranges in the same way that CAHSR vs. LOSSAN are apples/oranges.

And I'll reiterate while I have the floor that CAHSR will upgrade a significant chunk of the LOSSAN corridor, specifically the stretch between Burbank and Anaheim.

TowerDude Jul 13, 2022 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jmecklenborg (Post 9673751)
Agreed, but the two corridors are technically apples/oranges in the same way that CAHSR vs. LOSSAN are apples/oranges.

And I'll reiterate while I have the floor that CAHSR will upgrade a significant chunk of the LOSSAN corridor, specifically the stretch between Burbank and Anaheim.

They should also work on increasing the speed of the LA - San Luis Obispo section to 125 mph.

jmecklenborg Jul 13, 2022 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9674606)
They should also work on increasing the speed of the LA - San Luis Obispo section to 125 mph.

It's roughly 100 miles from Santa Barbara to LA Union Station. Just getting that stretch upgraded to 125mph electric would improve service into LA for everyone to the north. It's interesting to think about electrifying that line all the way north to Gilroy, but that would be a little over 300 miles of electrification, so a big, big project. They'd probably want to dig a 3~mile tunnel to avoid the climbs and switchbacks at San Luis Obispo. They could turn the existing line into a pretty nice rec trail.

eltodesukane Jul 29, 2022 5:38 PM

This high-speed rail project is a warning for the US
California's "train to nowhere" shows the challenges ahead.
Vox Video - Jul 29, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0dSm_ClcSw

China can do, but US can not.

MAC123 Jul 29, 2022 5:43 PM

Another video lamenting the route that goes where people live.

Busy Bee Jul 29, 2022 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eltodesukane (Post 9689280)
This high-speed rail project is a warning for the US
California's "train to nowhere" shows the challenges ahead.
Vox Video - Jul 29, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0dSm_ClcSw

China can do, but US can not.


Nonsense.

jmecklenborg Jul 29, 2022 6:36 PM

They somehow completely miss the fact that there will be express trains that won't stop in the Central Valley cities.

TWAK Jul 29, 2022 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAC123 (Post 9689288)
Another video lamenting the route that goes where people live.

I think the goal is to not have it built, since the other option is actually having it be a train to nowhere (like along I-5). Well a train going through nowhere...

MAC123 Jul 29, 2022 7:48 PM

I'm fine with an offshoot along the 1-5, as long as it's just that, an offshoot. After phase 1 and 2 are that could be built. But the first phase absolutely must run through the large central valley cities

TowerDude Jul 30, 2022 6:48 PM

That Vox video also completely ignores that the Central Valley on its own is larger than 30 US states population wise and would be quite a large state separately too. So there's plenty of need for rail services in that part of the state on its own and having it form the backbone of the HSR corridor is just the right way to future proof the project.

202_Cyclist Aug 12, 2022 11:57 AM

California high-speed rail wins $25 million U.S. grant, seeks $1.3 billion more

By David Shepardson
Reuters
Aug. 11, 2022

"WASHINGTON, Aug 11 (Reuters) - California's High-Speed Rail Authority said Thursday it won $25 million in new federal grant funding to advance its project beyond 119 miles under construction, while pursuing an additional $1.3 billion award..."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cal...re-2022-08-11/

Busy Bee Aug 14, 2022 8:42 PM

Elon Musk’s Hyperloop idea was just a ruse to kill California’s high-speed rail project

https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/ed...264451076.html

craigs Aug 14, 2022 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9702411)
Elon Musk’s Hyperloop idea was just a ruse to kill California’s high-speed rail project

https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/ed...264451076.html

Not surprising. Such a duplicitous spaz.

chaunceyjb Sep 2, 2022 8:14 PM

Construction Progress
 
Just looked over the drone videos on the Drone Zone's youtube channel found here: https://www.youtube.com/c/DRONEZONEFlyovers/videos

There is a lot of activity on the Hanford Viaduct, and even those videos are a month old. I was really surprised at the the progress on Veterans Blvd in Fresno (It's called Golden State Blvd realignment on the youtube channel). The bridge over the freight lines and high speed rail is done (and has been done for a while, but there is now LOTS of work in progress for the overpass of the new Golden State Blvd. realignment and the rest of the interchange over the freeway. Also noticed in another video that the freight line has finally been moved so construction can be completed next to State Route 180 under the rail spur and the canal for the trench. All in all there is quite a bit of progress on many bridges and structures that I hadn't seen. Well worth the view.

John S.

Busy Bee Sep 2, 2022 8:48 PM

That Drone Zone channel does some good videos even if theres no narration and the public domain music is just dreadful. I've beeen watching those whenever they come out to scratch my itch between Four Foot corridor tours. Speaking of which that guy hasnt uploaded a video in ages.

MAC123 Sep 2, 2022 9:49 PM

Yeah the four foot had really high quality vids.

markb1 Sep 3, 2022 12:34 AM

The Four Foot recently replied to someone on Twitter and said he wasn't sure he'd be able to make it to California this year. (He's a freight train engineer, and that job is not very compatible with having spare time, from what I hear!) I believe his last batch of CaHSR videos were recorded last August.

Busy Bee Sep 3, 2022 12:43 AM

^ Yeah, I figured his real job as an engineer has limited his ability to do youtube. His raw insight into what it's really like to be on a train crew is pretty illuminating. Certainly strips much of the romance of railroad lore out of it. The modern Class 1 railroad work culture sounds terrible... Just look at what was in the news recently about the potential for a nationwide strike amongst rail workers to protest the unlivability of it all.


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