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Martin Pal

Jan 14, 2015 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6874668)

The 1956 CD lists Nancy's ladies wear store just along the street at 6340 Hollywood Boulevard. In 1956, 6366 Hollywood Boulevard was a ladies wear store named Mimi's. Maybe the "S" belongs to that store. Incidentally, both Nancy's and Mimi's appear at 6366 in the 1960 CD.

I'm a bit confused...the first photo you posted of "Nancy's" isn't specifically dated, but it's in this location. I posted one of Nancy's, a screencap of a 1937 film, Big City, at the same location. Is it just a matter that the addresses were changed, but not the location? :shrug:

HossC

Jan 14, 2015 10:00 PM

:previous:

I don't have any answers (yet), but here's a little more info.

Nancy's and Mimi's are listed at 6340 and 6366 Hollywood Boulevard respectively in the 1942 CD (they appear as Nancy's Dress Shop and Mimi's Dress Shop). 6340 is immediately east of Ivar Avenue.

Meanwhile, in the 1938 CD (the nearest after the 1937 screengrab below), 6366 Hollywood Boulevard was home to a women's clothing store called Betty Blanc & Co. Also in the 1938 CD, 6340 Hollywood Boulevard was the address of I Magnin & Co. The Hollywood Citizen Stationery Store in the screengrab below is right where we'd expect it at 6362 Hollywood Boulevard. They managed to get the phone number Hollywood 1234. That doesn't explain how Nancy's shows up in a 1937 movie in a location where it won't be listed until about 20 years later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6870530)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug92C-xtJK...9.28.27+PM.png Warner Home Video

Here's the I Magnin's store from an earlier post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6206989)

I Magnin's at 6340 Hollywood Blvd. (Ivar Ave)

Circa, 1930 An ominous sky portending . . .
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3JC8VQYL5V.jpg http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3JC8VQYL5V.jpg

ethereal_reality

Jan 14, 2015 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6874675)

Here's a much closer view of the Hotel Buster/Apartments building. When this picture was taken, 141½ N Broadway was known as Franklin House.
The circular/triangular detail in the gable doesn't seem to appear on the other side.

This is a much better view of the Franklin (Buster) Apartment building HossC.
I thought the 'circular/triangular detail' was made of slats for ventilating the attic. (but like you said, there isn't one on the other side, so maybe not)

posted earlier by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/3mD1MZ.jpg

Is that a person leaning out the window?

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fhammon

Jan 14, 2015 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874884)

Is that a person leaning out the window?
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I believe it's a potted plant on an outdoor shelf.

HossC

Jan 14, 2015 11:23 PM

:previous:

I agree. I think it's just a row of pot plants with the largest on the right. I may be wrong, but the window appears to be closed.

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I managed to find a picture of Nancy's at the 6340 Hollywood address. LAPL don't date this image, but waterandpower.org have decided that it's circa 1940. On the right, the store that had been/would become (?) Nancy's is called Dinel's. I couldn't find it in the CDs, but the window display suggests that it also sold women's clothes. The picture also shows Thrifty, the Hollywood Beauty College, Schwabs, Western Union and the Hollywood Citizen Stationery Store.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...adiesWear2.jpg
LAPL

rbpjr

Jan 14, 2015 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6784107)

Well, obviously I agree. It is a very evocative image. It's hard to look at
these Depression-era, large format pictures and not fall into some
wool-gathering of our own. Most of us heard the stories from our parents
and aunts and uncles. In this case, I think a couple of things are going
on. First, to my eye, the camp appears to be emptying out. It
being November, harvesting has largely ended with the almond crop
(still small in 1936) either in or mostly so, the peach, plum and nectarines
are all boxed and gone, cotton will be done unless late this year and
table grape production for Kern County is still very modest but, in any
event, would be over by November. These fields we can see are pretty
barren, it doesn't look to me as though they've been in production this
year. Maybe, but I don't think so. Some pruning and brush clearance would
be going on but the labor-intensive part of the year is over and the bulk of
the migrant work force will have moved on to Imperial Valley. (1) This
looks like some people just out for a walk, maybe with a couple of
kids. Impossible to know what awaits around that curve, likely more
hard times. (2) Could be a field boss driving out on the week-end to tell
these guys where to show up Monday morning, maybe they are going
to prune some fruit trees, maybe one of them is a good mechanic and
he's going to help put equipment in order and winter storage (very
mild winters here in Kern County). (3) No, I don't think any of the
government camps distributed much food, maybe none. But providing
this kind of area helped with general cleanliness, keeping at least some of
the food and trash out of the tents. (4) Yep. (5) Check. (6) No idea.
Probably a trick of the light. (7) This looks like farm equipment to me. So
this would belong to the local farm owner. Maybe the guy in the car (no. 2)
is hiring one of these guys to wrestle a new (or used) tire onto that rim
for fifty cents. (8) Mostly children worked, if they were able. This is
another reason I think this may be a week-end shot. (9) This could be
the camp manager giving a quick trim to a guy who's got a shot at a
more permanent job or the local farm owner didn't want to drive all the
way into town and stopped by for the haircut. The little boy in the white
shirt and tie(!) is a mystery isn't he. Maybe his dad is the barber and
they drive out on the week-ends to give away haircuts. Such things
happened. I hope he paid attention, the lessons which surrounded him on
this day were priceless.

I lived in Bakersfield with my family around 1935-45 and as a youngster I remember my folks talking about the "Okies" and the "hobos". We lived on 19th street not from the "roundhouse" near the tracks...sometimes the "hobos" who had a campsite there would wander into our neighborhood looking for temp work or a handout. No one considered them dangerous or menacing...times have changed.

ethereal_reality

Jan 14, 2015 11:52 PM

Two LARY street-cars in front of the Kennedy Name Plate Co. at 4509 Pacific Blvd. in Vernon. (looks like one is off the tracks)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/4Zcyyv.jpg
ebay

The Kennedy Name Plate Co. is still in business and at the same location!

Here's an earlier post showing black and white 'before and after' photographs of the Kennedy Name Plate Co. and street-cars.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20836

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ethereal_reality

Jan 15, 2015 12:39 AM

A sad headline in today's Los Angeles Times.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/SlJTt7.png
http://www.latimes.com/

"Ray Bradbury lived in his 1937 Cheviot Hills home for more than 50 years. After the author of "Fahrenheit 451" died in 2012 the house was readied for sale."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/neoCw3.png
loopnet

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/xeyHiv.png
loopnet

"The home was filled with original details, such as built-in bookcases, that surrounded Bradbury for much of his life.
The next owner could be proud to live with the echo of Bradbury, the beloved science fiction writer who advised both Walt Disney and NASA."

Or not.

The home which was purchased for $1.76 million dollars is being torn down.
A permit for demolition was issued Dec. 30th."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/2nMbqZ.png
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/igfnAa.png
http://la.curbed.com/

I found these comments touching. (there were many more)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/LAL2Qr.png
http://laist.com/

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...904/Kqbiun.png
http://la.curbed.com/

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/Cz19J4.png
http://la.curbed.com/

And who is tearing it down?

California starchitect Thom Mayne, of the firm Morphosis. Unbelievable

Read more about it here:
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php

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ethereal_reality

Jan 15, 2015 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6870530)

This is a screencap of a 1937 film called BIG CITY, starring Luise Rainer and Spencer Tracy. It show's the corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Cosmo Street.
Nancy's is visible there and across Cosmo Street a place called Delphene's. The film, by the way, is set in New York City.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug92C-xtJK...9.28.27+PM.png Warner Home Video

Martin_Pal, if the film is set in New York City, why would the film makers choose a corner that has a 'Hollywood Citizen' sign?

...or did they travel to Hollywood in the film?
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fhammon

Jan 15, 2015 1:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875036)

A sad headline in today's Los Angeles Times.

"Ray Bradbury lived in his 1937 Cheviot Hills home for more than 50 years. After the author of "Fahrenheit 451" died in 2012 the house was readied for sale."

The home which was purchased for $1.76 million dollars is being torn down.
A permit for demolition was issued Dec. 30th."

His basement writing room:

https://assets-mwsmedia.netdna-ssl.c...ent_office.png https://www.mattselznick.com/scribtotum/ray-bradbury/

With his wife Maggie in 1970:

http://www.trbimg.com/img-537bfc39/t...01/750/750x422 http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketc...520-story.html

Albany NY

Jan 15, 2015 1:56 AM

The facts behind the anonymous faces.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874190)

Los Angeles family 1914.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/Cj4GHm.jpg
ebay

"High school sweethearts from Boyle Heights, Anne McCorkell and Guy Morley who both lived in Boyle Heights
and some years after their marriage with their two sons Herbert and Franklyn."
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You know, it's truly amazing what you can find within just a few minutes on the internet.
The couple above were married in 1911.
Guy F. Morley was born in 1892 in Oregon, and died in 1962 in San Bernardino.
Anne E. McCorkell was born in Upper Sandusky, Ohio, on December 8, 1893, and died on May 4, 1982 in Los Angeles.
Both are buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery.

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/8600/63utdR.jpg

Their older son, Herbert Guy Morley, was born February 11, 1914 and died on August 7, 1984. He turned into a nice looking fellow.

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/7589/TxzNg1.jpg

Their younger son, Franklyn James Morley, was born on August 3, 1915, and died on April 23, 1992.
Ethereal_reality's photo above was more likely from around 1920-21.
Boy, young Franklyn doesn't look too happy, does he?

ethereal_reality

Jan 15, 2015 2:10 AM

:previous: That is amazing Albany.
I'm really impressed you found a photograph of Guy and Anne's final resting place. (and the studio portrait of Herbert)

And yes, Franklyn was not a happy camper in that family snapshot.

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ethereal_reality

Jan 15, 2015 2:45 AM

A rare 1910 RPPC on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item566f20a64c

"Los Angeles Air Show Paulhan & Roy Knabensnue 1910 RPPC Photo"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/92n4wK.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item566f20a64c

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/9e2NEc.jpg

I like how someone simply wrote, "Saw both of these." I guess they weren't too impressed.

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ethereal_reality

Jan 15, 2015 2:56 AM

I just found this a few minutes ago on ebay. -It's somewhat of a strange looking make & model.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Mmiy0W.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

:previous:There's more front than there is a back. (where are they suppose put the ladder? ;))

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/OzGNCR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

Off the top of my head I can't remember where Engine House #50 was located.

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Tetsu

Jan 15, 2015 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874084)

Tetsu, I enjoyed your GSV tour of Eagle Rock Boulevard between Ave. 34 & Ave. 35. That's quite an interesting little stretch.

I especially liked (loved) this building. (I didn't see it in my vintage photograph until you pointed it out)

originally posted by Tetsu
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/04QnTc.png
GSV

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/DUhfsl.png
gsv

...as well as the little Verdugo Hardware store with the massive faux "columns".
Have you ever gone in that store? I wonder if there are any art deco touches in the interior. (or maybe they have a framed vintage photo of the building hanging behind the counter) -wishful thinking I know.

Never been inside Verdugo Hardware, but that would be awesome if they had such a framed photo on the wall!

As for the other building, I love it too and it's definitely the most unique of the bunch. I wonder who the architect was? It's probably wishful thinking but the ornate plaster detailing makes me want to believe that it's a Morgan, Walls, & Clements like the Chapman Market.

https://www.laconservancy.org/sites/...?itok=dcIjqaZ2 LA Conservancy

Like I said, probably wishful thinking. :shrug:

Earl Boebert

Jan 15, 2015 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875202)

I just found this a few minutes ago on ebay. -It's somewhat of a strange looking make & model.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Mmiy0W.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

:previous:There's more front than there is a back. (where are they suppose put the ladder?)

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/OzGNCR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

Off the top of my head I can't remember where Engine House #50 was located.

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Looks like a pumper, not a ladder truck.

Cheers,

Earl

fhammon

Jan 15, 2015 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874084)

originally posted by Tetsu
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/04QnTc.png
GSV

It reminds me of this building on La Brea and Edgewood about a mile north of the 10 fwy. I've driven by it hundreds of times over the years and always wished somebody could do something better with it as far as paint and restoration goes. It looks like it's from the same period but perhaps a little more faux and gimmicky looking and maybe a little newer but it has a certain dignity about it. I'd love to see an older, norish photo of it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/5amg3m.jpg

Otis Criblecoblis

Jan 15, 2015 4:41 AM

Demolition Permit Issued for Norms La Cienega

I realize this is not a bit noirish, but it is a matter of great importance to the denizens of this thread nonetheless.

A demolition permit has been issued for the neato Googie-esque Norms Restaurant location on La Cienega.

Here are the details, from the LA Conservancy site:

https://www.laconservancy.org/issues...ga-coffee-shop

The family that owned Norms recently sold it. They took pains to sell to someone who would "keep the faith," but it seems to me that immediately to seek to tear down their most iconic location does not bode well.

Those Who Squirm!

Jan 15, 2015 6:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6873516)

below: I could use some help figuring out the location of this photo. (I don't think we've seen it on NLA; I found it several nights ago on ebay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...904/dF7rx5.jpg
ebay

Hey, thanks for the information on maintenance car #9203 Ed_Workman & HossC. I appreciate the help.
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(Sorry if this has already been identified)

I could be way off base, but I'm getting a very strong West L.A. feel here. No, I can't identify any of the buildings, but I lived at the corner of Barrington and Ohio Avenues for over a dozen years. Before that I went to HS in the same neighborhood, although much longer ago, and I feel like I remember some of the buildings, which would have since been remodeled or replaced beyond recognition.

Sorry I can't do any better.

Those Who Squirm!

Jan 15, 2015 7:03 AM

And here we have the death of the middle class in the great cities of America. This house was undoubtedly much, much too tiny for the sort of people who can afford Cheviot Hills property today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875036)

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