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Mr Downtown Jun 13, 2020 12:44 AM

Medinah Temple needs a new use . . .

skysoar Jun 13, 2020 2:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCorsair87 (Post 8950316)
If we are wish-listing, I vote for a 1600ft tower, but it needs to be in the heart of the Loop. Anything taller than Sears is going to look ridiculous that far south (McCormick). Thompson is the perfect spot for one aesthetically and for a casino.

My $.02

Maybe so, but the Thompson center area would not be able to provide the affordable parking needed for a casino, I believe. Also if the Mayor is speaking of an entertainment area component, then would the Thompson center area meet that criteria?.

Sky88 Jun 13, 2020 8:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCorsair87 (Post 8950316)
If we are wish-listing, I vote for a 1600ft tower, but it needs to be in the heart of the Loop. Anything taller than Sears is going to look ridiculous that far south (McCormick). Thompson is the perfect spot for one aesthetically and for a casino.

My $.02

Do you prefer a tower located in this place (south McCormick) ...

http://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...dc&oe=5F0B9B11

or in the Loop? :)

http://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...23&oe=5F0A2628

SIGSEGV Jul 29, 2020 8:55 PM

Apparently Mercy Hospital is closing? https://www.chicagobusiness.com/heal...spital-closing

That's where the casino should go.

ardecila Jul 29, 2020 9:56 PM

Interesting... the trick is convincing people to walk across the Stevenson trench. If they can do something to the bridge on Michigan (wider sidewalks, landscaping, etc) to lure people down from Motor Row than I think it could be a great site. I have my usual concerns about urban design, but I think this site could allow for something closer to the traditional casino design with plenty of on-site parking, big gaming floors and a hotel tower. Just need to arrange those elements in an urban way.

Motor Row was always tossed around as an option, but it would be very challenging to acquire enough land there and deal with historic preservation issues... Mercy is a ready-made site that is basically a blank slate. I doubt the alderman would be on board, and there are other political challenges to redeveloping these sites... Michael Reese has taken over 10 years to get off the dime, and they still haven't broken ground. I imagine the same folks who protested Lincoln Yards will also come out against a casino on this site, if they think the casino factored into the decision to close the hospital.

marothisu Jul 29, 2020 10:40 PM

New Green line stop around 26th and State. Problem solved ;)

SIGSEGV Jul 29, 2020 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8995868)
Interesting... the trick is convincing people to walk across the Stevenson trench. If they can do something to the bridge on Michigan (wider sidewalks, landscaping, etc) to lure people down from Motor Row than I think it could be a great site. I have my usual concerns about urban design, but I think this site could allow for something closer to the traditional casino design with plenty of on-site parking, big gaming floors and a hotel tower. Just need to arrange those elements in an urban way.

Motor Row was always tossed around as an option, but it would be very challenging to acquire enough land there and deal with historic preservation issues... Mercy is a ready-made site that is basically a blank slate. I doubt the alderman would be on board, and there are other political challenges to redeveloping these sites... Michael Reese has taken over 10 years to get off the dime, and they still haven't broken ground. I imagine the same folks who protested Lincoln Yards will also come out against a casino on this site, if they think the casino factored into the decision to close the hospital.

I think the Casino would lure people on its own, but landscaping on Michigan would help bring casino people to Motor Row, which would be nice. Maybe even a nice plaza with a small outdoor entertainment space might make sense, although that would be costly (as would an infill Green Line site at 26th street, which this could catalyze). I bet a casino could actually use the high-rise portion of the hospital as a hotel if it wanted too though.

bhawk66 Jul 30, 2020 4:00 PM

Somebody needs to copy/paste this to city halls bulletin board/Lightfoots desk. It's practically gift wrapped.

ardecila Jul 30, 2020 4:11 PM

I'm sure Mercy will hire a broker to market the property, if that broker doesn't shop it as a casino site then they're basically negligent.

Lightfoot doesn't seem like she's in a rush to do a casino deal while Covid is ongoing. Seems like she's more focused on getting the Obama Center done for the time being. Also, she hasn't indicated whether she will have the city select a site and then shop it to operators, or whether she will expect different operators to find their own sites.

ardecila Aug 27, 2020 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8996503)
Lightfoot doesn't seem like she's in a rush to do a casino deal while Covid is ongoing. Seems like she's more focused on getting the Obama Center done for the time being. Also, she hasn't indicated whether she will have the city select a site and then shop it to operators, or whether she will expect different operators to find their own sites.

The city is out with an RFI for casino operators now:
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/dept...formation.html

It's a good sign that they are looking to take industry feedback into account from the start... obviously the city should not roll over for the casino operator on every detail but I'm glad they are not coming out and dictating a short list of "acceptable" casino sites, etc. that could be a poison pill for operators or at least seriously handicap the potential revenue. Developing this casino will need to be collaborative between the city and the operator.

LouisVanDerWright Aug 29, 2020 2:22 AM

They need to hurry up and build this, would be an excellent looting spot...

Halsted & Villagio Aug 29, 2020 5:19 AM

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Kumdogmillionaire Aug 29, 2020 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 9026007)
They need to hurry up and build this, would be an excellent looting spot...

Lori and her failed administration saw it as another thing to botch and further tank the city, so don't expect much.

ardecila Aug 30, 2020 9:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 9026007)
They need to hurry up and build this, would be an excellent looting spot...

LOL I'm sure any casino operator will have real security like a bank and not just the low-grade rent-a-cops that other places have.

The trick will be convincing them not to design a blank wall fortress like most other urban casinos.

kingkirbythe.... Aug 30, 2020 11:25 PM

Chicago doesn’t need a casino. Casinos are urban and social blight.

Mimol742 Aug 31, 2020 6:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kingkirbythe.... (Post 9027412)
Chicago doesn’t need a casino. Casinos are urban and social blight.

Based on the amount of unemployed and unskilled people living in Chicago I think Chicago definitely needs a casino.

marothisu Aug 31, 2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimol742 (Post 9027728)
Based on the amount of unemployed and unskilled people living in Chicago I think Chicago definitely needs a casino.

By that logic then most cities in the US need a casino.

west-town-brad Aug 31, 2020 4:25 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 9027830)
By that logic then most cities in the US need a casino.

we are well on our way....

http://lasvegas-hotel-casino-reviews...-locations.png

Mimol742 Sep 1, 2020 6:24 AM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 9027830)
By that logic then most cities in the US need a casino.

I wouldn’t say most but many... Yes. Look At Chicago’s poverty rate and % people without a high school diploma.

marothisu Sep 1, 2020 7:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimol742 (Post 9028761)
I wouldn’t say most but many... Yes. Look At Chicago’s poverty rate and % people without a high school diploma.

Actually, for the top 10 most populous cities in America Chicago ranks highly in terms of educational attainment. I know all about this data. The poverty rate in Chicago is also on par with that of NYC and given a margin of error from the ACS ranks around the middle (NYC, Dallas, San Antonio, and Chicago are all fairly similar).

2018, Percentage of people 25+ with less than a HS degree

1. San Diego: 13.02%
2. Chicago: 14.12%
3. Philadelphia: 14.13%
4. San Jose: 14.29%
5. Phoenix: 16.87%
6. New York City: 17.29%
7. San Antonio: 17.73%
8. Houston: 21.42%
9. Dallas: 21.54%
10. Los Angeles: 22.41%

Source: Table S1501, 2018 American Community Survey 1 year (https://data.census.gov/)


2018, Percentage of people 25+ with Bachelor's degree or higher

1. San Diego: 46.02%
2. San Jose: 42.06%
3. Chicago: 39.40%
4. New York City: 38.98%
5. Los Angeles: 34.49%
6. Dallas: 33.61%
7. Houston: 32.92%
8. Philadelphia: 30.88%
9. Phoenix: 28.91%
10. San Antonio: 25.76%

Source: Table S1501, 2018 American Community Survey 1 year (https://data.census.gov/)

2018, Percentage of people below 50% of poverty level
1. San Jose: 3.81%
2. Phoenix: 6.41%
3. San Diego: 6.53%
4. Los Angeles: 6.83%
5. New York City: 7.69%
6. Dallas: 8.00%
7. Chicago: 8.04%
8. San Antonio: 8.11%
9. Houston: 9.33%
10. Philadelphia: 11.11%

Source: Table S1701, 2018 American Community Survey 1 year (https://data.census.gov/)

2018, Percentage of households making $100K+ income

1. San Jose: 55.19%
2. San Diego: 39.76%
3. New York City: 33.23%
4. Los Angeles: 31.42%
5. Chicago: 29.05%
6. Phoenix: 25.52%
7. Houston: 23.98%
8. Dallas: 23.55%
9. Philadelphia: 20.67%
10. San Antonio: 19.75%

Source: Table B19001, 2018 American Community Survey 1 year (https://data.census.gov/)


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