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scalziand Jul 22, 2012 2:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck From NY (Post 5773392)
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Wouldn't there be a hesitation on the part of the first major tenant to sign on to this area not knowing how much is actually going to be built?

Coach didn't seem to hesitate when they signed on to anchor the Hudson Yards South Tower.

Design-mind Dec 22, 2012 5:44 PM

If all these towers get the go ahead in this area, it will be a massive construction site just like the WTC sites. This is a lot of square footage to be added to this area. It will definitely revitalize this part of NYC.

Dac150 Dec 22, 2012 9:28 PM

Thanks for bumping this thread to share that sentiment. :rolleyes:

-Filipe- Feb 16, 2013 2:34 PM

NEW YORK l 35th and 10th l FT | 35 FLOORS
 
http://i47.tinypic.com/2z3oy6a.png

http://www.sherwood-equities.com/

yankeesfan1000 Feb 16, 2013 3:10 PM

We already have a thread for this building, here.

-Filipe- Feb 16, 2013 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000 (Post 6017510)
We already have a thread for this building, here.

thats 34th and 10th, if you look at the screenshot from the webpage because i couldnt quote it..you can see 34th and 10th underneath this one :)

Hudson11 Feb 16, 2013 3:30 PM

the renderings for 34th and 10th and 35th and 10th are both place holders.

Don't confuse this project for 34th and 10th, which will be a supertall

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/...cb08c13a_o.jpg

yankeesfan1000 Feb 16, 2013 4:06 PM

My mistake. Sherwood is betting big on this area.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Feb 16, 2013 4:14 PM

That's 30 stories?

aquablue Feb 16, 2013 4:17 PM

The rendering on the first page is 35th and 10th, correct? If so, it looks quite tall, around 800-900 feet?

NYguy Feb 16, 2013 5:33 PM

http://www.sherwood-equities.com/onTheBoards.swf

Those are renderings of the same tower.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=184944

There is an error on the webpage labeling the rendering (probably due to a sequencing change). There is no rendering of the smaller tower.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/148809888/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/148809887/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/148809889/original.jpg

NYguy May 1, 2013 4:05 PM

http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/the-far-side/

Office developers compete for anchor tenants on Manhattan’s western edge
With only a finite number of large potential renters, the fight for office tenants on the West Side is heating up.



May 01, 2013
By Adam Pincus


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Only a few times in modern Manhattan history has an entirely new office district sprung up all at once. In the 1930s, there was Rockefeller Center; the 1970s saw the World Trade Center complex; and today, developers are planning nearly 15 million square feet of new office space in the Hudson Yards area in the 30s on the Far West Side. The new projects expected to rise over the next decade include the Related Companies’ North and South towers at Hudson Yards, Extell Development’s One Hudson Yards, Brookfield Office Properties’ Manhattan West and Moinian’s 3 Hudson Boulevard, as well as Sherwood Equities’ 447 10th Avenue and Alloy Development’s 450 Hudson Park Boulevard.

But before starting construction on these new towers, developers must first land an anchor tenant willing to take at least 400,000 square feet of space. With only a finite number of large potential renters, the competition for office tenants is heating up, as some of the city’s top commercial leasing brokers and developers battle each other with slick marketing campaigns and — of course — behind-the-scenes jabs at rival projects.

In 2011, fashion manufacturer Coach signed on to be an anchor tenant of Related’s South Tower. But Coach was already located a few blocks away, in a building directly in the path of Hudson Yards bulldozers. For many of the other big companies whose names are being kicked around as possible anchor tenants, a move to the Far West Side would represent a significant geographic shift from Midtown or Downtown.

There are currently 10 to 20 companies said to be on the hunt for large chunks of Manhattan office space, brokers said. These include media companies Time Warner, Sony, CBS and News Corp.; law firms White & Case and Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom; advertising firm GroupM; financial giant Credit Suisse; and fashion house Ralph Lauren.

Brokers for the new Hudson Yards–area towers are fighting to lure these tenants, but their efforts could be in vain if companies decide to stay in their current locations, or move to existing office towers instead. Despite these challenges, Hudson Yards so far appears to be beating the odds. Last month, Related snagged two more tenants for the South Tower: French cosmetics maker L’Oreal and software firm SAP.

447 10th Avenue
Developer: Sherwood Equities


Size: 2.5 million square feet
Expected completion date: TBD
Leasing agent: None


Midtown-based Sherwood Equities, headed by CEO Jeffrey Katz, owns three parcels in the Hudson Yards area. But much like Alloy, it is less well-known than most of the other Far West Side developers.

Sherwood is planning an office tower at 447 10th Avenue at 34th Street on a site it’s owned since 1986. (Sherwood’s two smaller sites in the district will likely become residential or mixed-use towers.)

But the firm is in no hurry to start construction on the massive office project, Nelson said, and Sherwood is not competing as fiercely for tenants as some of the other developers in the area.

“We are not being as aggressive as the others,” Nelson said. With rents in the untested neighborhood still relatively low, the firm feels that “it does not make sense to fight tooth and nail.”

He said he expects rents in the area to rise dramatically once tenants start moving in to other new buildings.

Sherwood is nonetheless on the lookout for tenants in need of large chunks of space. Sources said the firm responded to an inquiry from Time Warner about potentially taking space at 447 10th.

Nelson declined to comment on Time Warner specifically, but confirmed that Sherwood would indeed respond “if a tenant came along that needed 2 million square feet.”

NYguy Jun 5, 2013 12:01 AM

According to this article, things are moving forward, and are "past the point of no return". We'll see what develops.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/150604749/original.jpg

NYguy Oct 8, 2013 12:43 PM

Katz discusses plans for his property...

http://media.crainsnewyork.com/video...n-hudson-yards

NYguy Jan 10, 2014 11:00 PM

1,800 ft? Just a thought


http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/Hudson-Spire.jpg
curbed.com




http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/140119991

Major site for sale in Hudson Yards
The block-long parcel on Manhattan's far West Side could trade for more than $200 million and host the city's tallest skyscraper—and its neighbor might sell, too.



http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pb...creen&maxh=360

Rendering of an imagined Hudson Spire at the Rosenthal site in Hudson Yards.
Photo by MJM+A Archictects.


By Daniel Geiger
January 10, 2014


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One of the largest development sites in Manhattan's Hudson Yards that could one day be home to the city's tallest skyscraper has hit the sales market.

The Rosenthal family has hired Massey Knakal Realty Services Chairman Bob Knakal and his colleague James Nelson to market a parcel it owns stretching from West 35th to West 34th streets between 10th Avenue and what will be a grand new thoroughfare running through the neighborhood called Hudson Boulevard. That parcel can accommodate as much as 1.2 million square feet of space, including about 200,000 square feet of residential development.

Also, the site sits directly next to another similarly sized piece of land owned by Sherwood Equities, which for years has planned to develop a single super-tower on the two parcels in partnership with the Rosenthals. Now that the Rosenthals are selling, Ryan Nelson (no relation to James), a senior vice president at Sherwood Equities who manages the company's acquisitions and sales, said it, too, will consider selling its parcel to either the buyer of the Rosenthal land or another purchaser.

Together the two sites could allow for an 1,800-foot mega-tower nearly 2.5 million square feet in size—what would be the tallest, and one of the largest, buildings in the city. Most of that structure would have to be for commercial use under the area's zoning, either office or hotel space, but it also could contain a substantial residential component as large as 400,000 square feet.


For now, Mr. Knakal and James Nelson are focused on selling just the Rosenthals' half of the land, which could trade for more than $200 million and can host up to 1.2 million square feet of development as well as reach 1,800 feet in height. Those parcels are located at 435 10th Ave., 507 W. 34th St. and 510-28 W. 35th St.

"We're offering the site up to the whole world to tell us what they want to do," James Nelson said. "It's one of the highest zoned sites in the city and it affords a host of possibilities, from building one big building to two or more buildings that include residential, hotel, office and retail space."

Ryan Nelson said that the two sites together, however, would appeal to major developers who want to have a presence in the Hudson Yards neighborhood, where millions of square feet of development are either underway or in the planning. "Together these sites are one of the best commercial development parcels in the area," he said.

Sherwood Equities is not actively marketing its site, but is likely to keep tabs on the sale of the Rosenthal site in the case that a buyer there would want to put together the whole block.

Submariner Jan 10, 2014 11:08 PM

Oh now you're just teasing us!

chris08876 Jan 10, 2014 11:18 PM

Maybe, possibly, this could be the signature tower that the city needs, and should have! Lets keep fingers crossed. ;)

NYguy Jan 10, 2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6402187)
Oh now you're just teasing us!

Nope, not me! But someone thinks that way. That 1,800 ft woud be without the spire BTW. The ESB shudders in the distance.


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pb...creen&maxh=360


Quote:

...the site sits directly next to another similarly sized piece of land owned by Sherwood Equities, which for years has planned to develop a single super-tower on the two parcels in partnership with the Rosenthals. Now that the Rosenthals are selling, Ryan Nelson (no relation to James), a senior vice president at Sherwood Equities who manages the company's acquisitions and sales, said it, too, will consider selling its parcel to either the buyer of the Rosenthal land or another purchaser.

Together the two sites could allow for an 1,800-foot mega-tower nearly 2.5 million square feet in size—what would be the tallest, and one of the largest, buildings in the city.



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/154086374/original.jpg

Onn Jan 10, 2014 11:47 PM

Mother of pearl! 1,800 feet would be awesome!! :D

gramsjdg Jan 11, 2014 12:33 AM

Forget MOMA, scale up the original (1155 ft) Tower Verre design to 1800 ft and use that here.


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