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ethereal_reality Dec 22, 2018 5:10 AM

Today's Hollywood Reporter has an excellent article written by James Elroy on the murder of Sal Mineo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/lNmnVP.jpg

GO HERE

ScottyB Dec 22, 2018 5:53 AM

Willow Dale
 
I've been poring over some of Carleton Watkins' mammoth plates ....so good.

Here is Willow Dale, the home of Nathaniel C Carter, located just south of the Langham nee Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. He would eventually become the founder of the city of Sierra Madre. He operated railroad excursions in the mid-1870's bringing Easterners to visit the wonders of Southern California. (And then sell them land.)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/...8641d447_h.jpg
HDL

He and his wife were little people (I jest)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/...9c2e1d06_h.jpg
HDL

My favorite view, showing some of the landscape of Oak Knoll.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4898/...9c453bfc_h.jpg
HDL

interesting "for sale" ad
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4852/...3f03b4f4_b.jpg
(lost link- mea culpa)

Tourmaline Dec 22, 2018 1:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8416925)

Here's a
close-up
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/LGDDjX.jpg
DETAIL

Anything look familiar?

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:previous:

A F C KIRCHHOFF :shrug:
FAMILY LIQUOR DEALER

Martin Pal Dec 22, 2018 7:28 PM

You can tell the Hollywood Reporter's James Ellroy article about Sal Mineo was written by Ellroy.

"He (Sal Mineo) grokked male Caucasians between 16 and 20. He chased quiff at Lillian’s and the Hub Bar. He habituated West Hollyweird. He frequented the Garden District and the Posh Bagel."

I had to look up words (grokked and quiff) and wondered where these places were? (I'd heard of the Garden District, a restaurant on La Cienega.)

There was a rather recent movie James Franco had a hand in about Sal Mineo, titled Sal. It's rather hard to locate, but I did see it a couple years ago. I found it worthwhile, though most folks probably would like this more titillating article better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417033)
https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/f...ash_ellroy.jpg

GO HERE
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8567 Holloway Dr.

https://images1.apartments.com/i2/GL...ding-photo.jpg

CityBoyDoug Dec 22, 2018 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417033)
Today's Hollywood Reporter has an excellent article written by James Elroy on the murder of Sal Mineo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/lNmnVP.jpg

GO HERE

There is one acidic line in the Elroy article that stands out...."He was a half-assed movie star." Really? Two Oscar nominations. Most actors consider even a Nomination as a blessing.

Elroy's style of typing is nasty homophobic boilerplate.


*Oscar Nominations:Rebel Without a Cause and Exodus

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fc/3e...80749a644c.gifhttps://i.pinimg.com/564x/c1/8e/a9/c...24dc3babd0.jpg
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Sal played the lonely rich boy who was desperate for a friend.....Dean did his best to accommodate. both on and offscreen.

riichkay Dec 22, 2018 11:18 PM

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps892nlfdo.jpg

Vincent Price and daughter Victoria shopping for an Xmas tree, late '60's...that's the Barrington Plaza apartments in the distance, so this is clearly on Wilshire Blvd., west of Barrington and on the south side of the street...I lived in Brentwood for 30 years so I tried to find the property, see if the laundromat building was still standing.


I took the Googlemobile about a mile west of Barrington, and came up with this building (11918 Wilshire) next to the McDonalds...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psn67i5sur.png



In the Price photo there is a sliver of a building to the right behind the laundromat....I then came up with a companion photo that showed more of that structure...white building with a greyish roof, and a window in the extreme upper right corner...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psvxfc0qhi.jpg



Armed with the 2nd snapshot I took a tour down the alleyway behind 11918....and came up with a building that I thought was a possible match...if I am right the "Nails" signage would have been above the rear door of the laundromat...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...pscuwkrhbp.png



A closer view of the white building...it appears that the downspout has been relocated from the date of the Price picture, otherwise I think a match...

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psuyfyoywl.png



For further confirmation I went to Building & Safety's permit search and ran 11918 Wilshire, unfortunately there were no '60's permits where you could actually bring up the image of the document, so I could not confirm laundromat usage that way....I then searched the adjacent parcel (where the McDonald's is today), that address is 11920-26 Wilshire....turns out that there was a structure on that property that was demolished in 1959, and the site was vacant for the next decade....with the exception that every November a permit similar to this (from 1967) was issued....

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps82gvj02w.png




https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...psg4tmyqly.png

Barrington Plaza is largely hidden today by the subsequently constructed office buildings.

A permit was issued in April 1969 for the construction of a take-out chicken place on the Xmas tree lot, so 1968 was the last year the property was vacant...Victoria Price would have been age 6 that year...add in the period attire, my guess is that the snapshot just turned 50.


In researching this little project I discovered that Mr. Price was something of an authority on Christmas trees and their decoration....this from a Sears catalog, 1964....

https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps43kc0kqx.jpg



https://i1381.photobucket.com/albums...ps8dcct7hv.jpg

Earl Boebert Dec 22, 2018 11:21 PM

^^^
Yeah, Ellroy's a piece of work. Grievously hurt as a child, so entitled to sympathy as a person but not as a writer. I grew up listening to cop talk around the dinner table, had occasion to work with law enforcement before retiring, and I never heard anybody talk even remotely like that article. "Brace" for interview? It's a military term. "Wits" for witnesses? And I'm to believe somebody used the term "reefer" in the 1970's?

Sigh. But 'tis the Season, so let's give Ellroy a pass. Best Wishes for the Holidays to all the Noirishers :cheers:

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 12:44 AM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8417421)
There is one acidic line in the Elroy article that stands out...."He was a half-assed movie star." Really? Two Oscar nominations.
Most actors consider even a Nomination as a blessing.

I was startled by the callous "half-assed movie star" comment as well CBD. ---so I tried to understand it:
In 1976 Mineo's Oscar nominations were already well in the past---
21 yrs [in the past] for his Rebel Without A Cause nomination and almost 16 yrs. [in the past] for his Exodus nomination.

Since Elroy is using (manipulating?) the speaking 'voices' of the policemen in 1976...
I think it's conceivable the policemen were [initially] unaware of Mineo's pedigree as an actor.

As for Elroy's patois:
This Hollywood Reporter piece wasn't nearly as bad as some of Elroy's past writing. (some of his writing is unbearably bad)
BUT I must admit-- I got extremely tired of Elroy using the term Hollyweird. (he used it three or four times just in this relatively short article)
Hollyweird is such an easy put-down, and at this point, so overused that it has practically become meaningless. (almost as bad as "The Land of Fruits & Nuts")
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8417421)

Elroy's style of typing is nasty homophobic boilerplate.

I can regrettably give this a pass. As I said earlier, the article is written in 1976 'speak' when homophobia was rampant.
In reality, the homophobia was probably much worse. :(

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 1:07 AM

re: James Elroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8417344)

I had to look up the words grokked and quiff

I was afraid to look up quiff. I had it confused with queef)


p.s. I just looked up both grokked and quiff..and I still don't understand. :shrug:

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 2:22 AM

I loved the bucolic photographs of Willow Dale ScottyB.


I'll add this image of N. C. Carter and his wife (daughter?) on the front porch at Willow Dale.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7UIw4w.jpg
carletonwatkins

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ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 2:35 AM

..and this.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/B63tL9.jpg

so N.C. Carter was gone by [at least] 1884.

sold by Captain Ellis..but it doesn't say who purchased the property.

nealberke Dec 23, 2018 3:32 AM

Strip city riddle solved...
 
[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6466403]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/542/xw6g.jpg

I think I’ve solved the Anamorphic, Panoramic, Stereophonic and George! mystery.

Strip City’s ad loosely refers to the 1955 musical “Silk Stockings” “Silk Stockings is a musical with a book by George S. Kaufman, Leueen MacGrath, and Abe Burrows and music and lyrics by Cole Porter”. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Stockings)

Cole Porter wrote the song Stereophonic Sound. Over again, he reminds the listener that to have a successful motion picture “You've gotta have glorious Technicolor, Breathtaking Cinemascope and
Stereophonic sound”. Let’s break this down.

ANAMORPHIC: According to Wikipedia “Anamorphic format is the cinematography technique of shooting a widescreen picture on standard 35 mm film or other visual recording media with a non-widescreen native aspect ratio. It also refers to the projection format in which a distorted image is "stretched" by an anamorphic projection lens to recreate the original aspect ratio on the viewing screen”. Wikipedia cites Cinama Scope as a type of anamorphic format. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_format)

I suspect Strip City didn’t want to be sued by Cinema Scope for misappropriating a trademark so they used the generic “Anamorphic”.

PANORAMIC: Likely just thrown in for effect or to mean the audience will get an all around view of the performers.

STEREOPHONIC: The club installed a stereo sound system. Again, what Cole Porter says audiences demand in a modern motion picture. (http://www.lyricszoo.com/hildegarde-...ophonic-sound/)

GEORGE: I’d guess this is a reference to George S. Kaufman who started work on Silk Stockings but didn’t complete the “book”. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Stockings).

Here are three excerpts from Cole Porter’s “Stereophonic Sound” as Porter wrote it and before it was “cleaned up” for the motion picture. Source is LyricsZoo.com. (http://www.lyricszoo.com/hildegarde-...ophonic-sound/)

“If Zanuck's latest picture were the good old-fashioned kind,
There'd be no one in front to look at Marilyn's behind.
If you want to hear applauding hands resound
You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,
Breathtaking Cinemascope and
Stereophonic sound”.

“The customers don't like to see
The groom embrace the bride
Unless her lips are scarlet
And her bosom's five feet wide.
You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,
Breathtaking Cinemascope or
Cinerama, Vista Vision, Superscope or
Todd-A-O and
Stereophonic sound,
And Stereophonic sound”.

‘If Ava Gardner played Godiva
Riding on a mare
The people wouldn't pay a cent
To see her in the bare
Unless she had glorious Technicolor,
Cinecolor or
Warnercolor or
Pathe color or
Eastmancolor or
Kodacolor or
Any color and
Stereophonic sound,
And Stereophonic,
As an extra tonic,
Stereophonic sound’.

Other evidence in the ad: It looks like the photo or cartoon shows a woman either putting on or taking off stockings. “Our girls get dressed behind a wide screen”, a wide screen anamorphic reference.

John Maddox Roberts Dec 23, 2018 8:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417489)
I was afraid to look up quiff. I had it confused with queef)


p.s. I just looked up both grokked and quiff..and I still don't understand. :shrug:

"Grok" comes from Robert A. Heinlein's novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" (1961). Its meaning is something like "to fully understand" but in Martian its origin is a word meaning "to drink", water being of utost importance on Mars.

John Maddox Roberts Dec 23, 2018 8:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8417444)
^^^
Yeah, Ellroy's a piece of work. Grievously hurt as a child, so entitled to sympathy as a person but not as a writer. I grew up listening to cop talk around the dinner table, had occasion to work with law enforcement before retiring, and I never heard anybody talk even remotely like that article. "Brace" for interview? It's a military term. "Wits" for witnesses? And I'm to believe somebody used the term "reefer" in the 1970's?

Sigh. But 'tis the Season, so let's give Ellroy a pass. Best Wishes for the Holidays to all the Noirishers :cheers:

Cheers,

Earl

I remember "reefer" being used in the 1950s and in every decade since, so I can imagine LAPD detectives using it in the '70s.

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2018 2:00 PM

:previous:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8417444)
.... And I'm to believe somebody used the term "reefer" in the 1970's?


In college in the '70s we were watching Reefer Madness (passing one around, of course)...released 40 years before (1936).


https://i.postimg.cc/gj5mBckw/reefer...poster-bmp.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2018 2:23 PM

I came across this yesterday--88 years to the day after it appeared in the Times on Dec 22, 1930. "The good old days" when the streets were safe...right.

I notice that the Lucky Spot Café on Crenshaw, mentioned here lately, was robbed...and so was a "VD" filling station (at 2401 Whittier Blvd)


https://i.postimg.cc/Z5m5kRx3/robbers1.jpg

rick m Dec 23, 2018 3:05 PM

Another unbuilt Bnker Hill 1900s site--
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8415697)
Wow! 2500 pages (for me, or however many for y'all)...all I know is there's been 49,995 posts, so we'll see if I end up being #50,000 by the time I finish writing this.

Here's something I found—a piece of unbuilt Bunker Hill from the Times, 11 Feb 1905.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4848/...e34ae060_o.png

This would plop right on top the old Bixby house. And note that it would play havoc with the views had by the tenants of the Bradbury Mansion!

That this great seven-story caravansary should look a bit like the then three-year-old Fremont down the street at Fourth & Olive shouldn't surprise anyone, as it was also designed by John C. Austin.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8307/...36303a50_c.jpgHotel Fremont, Fourth Street and Olive, ca.1908 by Michael Ryerson, on Flickr

Somewhere in my research there was also a major hotel planned for area on Hope at stairway rising from Third St- then also one other set for Olive at 2nd across from the Northern Apts---- neither which got funding ...

Earl Boebert Dec 23, 2018 3:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 8417632)
I remember "reefer" being used in the 1950s and in every decade since, so I can imagine LAPD detectives using it in the '70s.

Sorry, I was unclear. What I meant was that the term was so archaic as to be laughable in the 70's. "Joint" was ubiquitous then.

If you want to know how cops talked around that time, I suggest reading Wambaugh. He was one.

Anyhow, sorry for bringing it up. Ellroy isn't worth the hassle.

Cheers,

Earl

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417489)
I was afraid to look up quiff. I had it confused with queef)

p.s. I just looked up both grokked and quiff..and I still don't understand. :shrug:
_________________________________________________________________


Yes, I didn't really understand his use of them with the meanings I looked up, either.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417477)
BUT I must admit-- I got extremely tired of Elroy using the term Hollyweird. (he used it three or four times just in this relatively short article)
Hollyweird is such an easy put-down, and at this point, so overused that it has practically become meaningless.
___________________________________________________________________


Exactly.

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8417440)
In researching this little project I discovered that Mr. Price was something of an authority on Christmas trees and their decoration....this from a Sears catalog, 1964....
_________________________________________________________________


Interesting post riichkay. I can't imagine getting one of those trees and telling people who visit that your tree is exactly like the one Vincent Price has. Or "Vincent Price picked out the Christmas cards we sent."

I wonder if he actually had one in his home like that or it was just what he came up with for Sears. Thinking of it more, this is all really strange.

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealberke (Post 8417544)
Here are three excerpts from Cole Porter’s “Stereophonic Sound” as Porter wrote it and before it was “cleaned up” for the motion picture. Source is LyricsZoo.com. (http://www.lyricszoo.com/hildegarde-...ophonic-sound/)

“If Zanuck's latest picture were the good old-fashioned kind,
There'd be no one in front to look at Marilyn's behind.
If you want to hear applauding hands resound
You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,
Breathtaking Cinemascope and
Stereophonic sound”.

“The customers don't like to see
The groom embrace the bride
Unless her lips are scarlet
And her bosom's five feet wide.
You've gotta have glorious Technicolor,
Breathtaking Cinemascope or
Cinerama, Vista Vision, Superscope or
Todd-A-O and
Stereophonic sound,
And Stereophonic sound”.

‘If Ava Gardner played Godiva
Riding on a mare
The people wouldn't pay a cent
To see her in the bare
Unless she had glorious Technicolor,
Cinecolor or
Warnercolor or
Pathe color or
Eastmancolor or
Kodacolor or
Any color and
Stereophonic sound,
And Stereophonic,
As an extra tonic,
Stereophonic sound’.
_________________________________________________________________


I love the Stereophonic Sound number in Silk Stockings! Thanks for posting these lyrics that I'd never seen before, NealBerke!
Youtube posting of the movie version HERE.

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 6:48 PM

https://cdn2.lamag.com/wp-content/up...12/oiltree.jpgL.A. Magazine

In 1939 and 1940, a Huntington Beach oil company attached more than 100 pine saplings to a steel derrick to create this 127-foot monstrosity. To complete the display, the company sprinkled the ground in bright-white powdered lime.


Los Angeles Coliseum Christmas Lights, December 1949.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PGHA_oKP9...%2C%2B1949.jpgR.O. Ritchie/L.A. Times

Dec. 19, 1949: Decorated Christmas trees in front of the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum facing Figueroa St. are photographed at dusk.

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 7:00 PM

I spent some considerable time last week looking at posts of Christmas photos on NLA and didn't see any of the following ones I'm posting, but having said that, who knows? Also, they will seem familiar anyway because there's been many similar looking ones.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/317d9b8b...lhao1_1280.jpgCalifornia State Library

The Poinsettia, California’s Christmas Flower, circa 1920's, from Newman Postcard Co. in Los Angeles taken at the Hollywood Hotel.
(Two similar postcards were previously posted.)
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This photo is facing the Security Bank building on the corner of Hollywood & Highland. On the left of the photo is the Hollywood Hotel. What caught my eye in this photo was the banners on the lighted Christmas Tree on the right, which is in front of Barker Brothers. None of the other trees have them.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/...97243e45_b.jpgjericl cat/Flickr


This 1948 photo was taken in much the same location as the one above. The trees on the left front the Hollywood Hotel. Security Bank Building. Hotel Drake. Paramount Theater on the right.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...e-jpg.3753940/Jalopy Journal
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I was looking at the following photo taken a bit east of the Pantages Theatre and wasn't quite sure if I'd ever seen the lighted Taft Building sign as the Hollingsworth Taft Building. Some NLA searching tells me that Hollingsworth was a management company and then I noticed the building on the right side says "Equitable Building of Hollywood Managed by Hollingsworth." Still, I couldn't find another photo with the lighted Hollingsworth sign.

This photo was taken in 1949. The theatre on the left is playing a film originally released in the UK in 1945 under the title "29 Acacia Avenue", but not released in the U.S. until 1949 under the title The Facts of Love. This initials on the theatre look like they're for the Hitching Post theatre which played Westerns, but this film is not a western. Cinema Treasures says that by 1950 it was called the Paris Theatre. (To the left of the theatre is the Eagle Cafe.)

The Pantages is showing the Claudette Colbert movie "Bride for Sale." The tag line for that movie is: "Claudette Colbert wants a carpet slipper kind of guy...and winds up with a pair of heels!"

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4546/...144f3e28_b.jpgjericl cat/Flickr
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This next one was taken on Hollywood Blvd. near Vine Street facing west.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7556/2...8d1e951a_b.jpg
VintageLA/Flickr

The photo isn't dated. The Marc Wannamaker book Hollywood 1940-2008, says that "by 1945, the Hotel Christie was renamed the Hollywood Drake Hotel (pictured) then changed ownership again and reopened in January, 1958, as the Hollywood Inn."

The Academy Theatre is closed.


The source says: Hollywood Blvd. December, 1958, but all of the films on the marquees were released in 1957. The book Hollywood 1940-2008, by Marc Wannamaker, says the Hollywood Inn (formerly Hotel Christie and Hollywood Drake Hotel) opened in January, 1958. So, in this photo, the Hollywood Inn could have it's marquee lit pending official opening (if it was closed between owners at all), or the photo could have been taken in January.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/471/18...3334ca5f_b.jpg
Photograph by Frank J. Thomas, Courtesy of the Frank J. Thomas Archives

It looks to be approximately 9:30 p.m. The New-View Theatre is showing April Love and The Three Faces of Eve. Also pictured: Hollywood Men's Shop. Shoe City. The Vogue is showing Peyton Place. Elmer's Pyramid Fountain. Musso & Frank's Grill. Hollywood Barber Shop. Chuck's Hofbrau.

Martin Pal Dec 23, 2018 7:05 PM

I meant to post this last year, but didn't get around to it. Last December Hollywood tried sprucing up their Christmas decorations on Hollywood Blvd.

http://onlyinhollywood.org/wp-conten...Lights-035.jpg

Link to all photos HERE.

"After an absence of four years, holiday lighting returned to Hollywood Boulevard for the 2017 holiday season, as a result of a joint effort between the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce and the Hollywood Entertainment District (HED). A lighting ceremony was held to show off the new decorations at the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and Highland Avenue, adjacent to the Metro Station.

http://onlyinhollywood.org/wp-conten...55-768x511.jpg


Over 50 palm trees were decorated with permanent lighting, and each tree outfitted with two RGB lamps installed under the crown of the tree to light up the palm fronds. In addition, 27 city light poles were adorned with custom-made pole-mounted decorations with a star theme, installed along with decorated commercial green garland with LED lights.

The tree lights will be kept up all year, while the decorations will be removed in January. The RGB lamps can be programmed with different colors, which will enable the HED to change the lighting to different colors depending on the holiday.

http://onlyinhollywood.org/wp-conten...8-768x1154.jpg

Enjoy the holidays, noirishers!

Link for E_R, HERE!

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealberke (Post 8417544)

originally posted by ethereal reality
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/542/xw6g.jpg

I think I’ve solved the Anamorphic, Panoramic, Stereophonic and George! mystery.

Strip City’s ad loosely refers to the 1955 musical “Silk Stockings”

Let’s break this down.

ANAMORPHIC: According to Wikipedia “Anamorphic format is the cinematography technique of shooting a widescreen picture on standard 35 mm film or other visual recording media with a non-widescreen native aspect ratio. It also refers to the projection format in which a distorted image is "stretched" by an anamorphic projection lens to recreate the original aspect ratio on the viewing screen”.

PANORAMIC: Likely just thrown in for effect or to mean the audience will get an all around view of the performers.

STEREOPHONIC: The club installed a stereo sound system. Again, what Cole Porter says audiences demand in a modern motion picture. (http://www.lyricszoo.com/hildegarde-...ophonic-sound/)

GEORGE: I’d guess this is a reference to George S. Kaufman who started work on Silk Stockings but didn’t complete the “book”. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Stockings).

Other evidence in the ad: It looks like the photo or cartoon shows a woman either putting on or taking off stockings. “Our girls get dressed behind a wide screen”, a wide screen anamorphic reference.

:previous: Excellent summation nealberke Thanks so much for figuring this out. (especially the meaning of "and George") that was a doozy of a mystery believe you me.


The stripper in the ad, Venus the Body, was Jean Smyle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MgjpfZ.jpg
trueburlesque


I don't believe we ever figured out what "Sam Incessant: Please write!" means.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/pRbWKI.jpg
DETAIL from ad.
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ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 8:29 PM

As a reminder:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/yBiEyI.jpg
caption from laweekly

We've seen this photo a couple of times on NLA...but I don't remember discussing Strip City as a mob/hoodlum hang-out :shrug: (or was every strip club considered a hoodlum hangout back then?)
Refresh my memory: Do we know who owned Strip City?)...that might tell us how much of a hoodlum hang-out it was.

I also didn't remember the Gruen clock above the entrance to the club.

CityBoyDoug Dec 23, 2018 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417829)
As a reminder:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/yBiEyI.jpg
caption from laweekly

We've seen this photo a couple of times on NLA...but I don't remember discussing Strip City as a mob/hoodlum hang-out :shrug: (or was every strip club considered a hoodlum hangout back then?)
Refresh my memory: Do we know who owned Strip City?)...that might tell us how much of a hoodlum hang-out it was.

I also didn't remember the Gruen clock above the entrance to the club.

Here's Desiree Cyn

http://www.streetswing.com/histburl/gif/desiree1.gif
streetswing

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 9:01 PM

And on the flip side. ;)

Sal Mineo starred, and directed, John Herbert's play Fortune and Men's Eyes at the Coronet Theater on La Cienaga.

Original program: $350 at AMAZON


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FLF2jI.jpg

Co-starring Don Johnson :previous:. [and below in his tighty whiteys]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/I2VS6A.jpg



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/OuvnLX.jpg
can anyone make out who replaced Robert Redding?



The West Coast production of Fortune and Men's Eyes premiered in December 1968 with an official opening date of January 9th, 1969 and ran until July 1969.

The Coronet Theater was located at...[I'm looking it up] it's too blurry in the program scan.
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ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2018 9:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8417805)

Link for E_R, HERE!

Oh my, Martin........believe it or not, I've never heard the song Indiana Christmas before.

It's quite beautiful. *dabs eyes*

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CityBoyDoug Dec 23, 2018 10:09 PM

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tmgvr7HWp...onet-Largo.jpg.....https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...5f87568b03.jpg
LA Times...This stage

Mineo and Johnson.....tense times in prison

Thanks ER

Seating: 267

Stage Specs:
Proscenium width: 39'
Proscenium height: 13'
Curtain to footlights: 3' 6"
Curtain to backwall: 30'

Grid height: 17' 9"
Theatre location: upstairs

I believe its now called Largo

nealberke Dec 23, 2018 10:21 PM

Perhaps Sam Shapiro
 
[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8417828]:previous: Excellent summation nealberke Thanks so much for figuring this out. (especially the meaning of "and George") that was a doozy of a mystery believe you me.


The stripper in the ad, Venus the Body, was Jean Smyle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MgjpfZ.jpg
trueburlesque


I don't believe we ever figured out what "Sam Incessant: Please write!" means.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/pRbWKI.jpg
[SIZE="1"]DETAIL from ad.

http://jazzwestcoastresearch.blogspo...oom-mambo.html

nealberke Dec 23, 2018 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=nealberke;8417901][QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8417828]:previous: Excellent summation nealberke Thanks so much for figuring this out. (especially the meaning of "and George") that was a doozy of a mystery believe you me.


The stripper in the ad, Venus the Body, was Jean Smyle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MgjpfZ.jpg
trueburlesque


I don't believe we ever figured out what "Sam Incessant: Please write!" means.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/pRbWKI.jpg
[SIZE="1"]DETAIL from ad.

It may have been a performer who appeared at the club, Sam Shapiro. as ARAHO THE HALF BREED. The website is JAZZ CITY RESEARCH Sept. 30, 2014.

http://jazzwestcoastresearch.blogspo...oom-mambo.html

By the way, how can I attach a NEW photo to this post from my photos file? It looks like the only way to attach a file is from a website. Once I know that, I can post a Strip City ad with Sam Shapiro's name.

nealberke Dec 23, 2018 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=nealberke;8417904][QUOTE=nealberke;8417901]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8417828)
:previous: Excellent summation nealberke Thanks so much for figuring this out. (especially the meaning of "and George") that was a doozy of a mystery believe you me.


The stripper in the ad, Venus the Body, was Jean Smyle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MgjpfZ.jpg
trueburlesque


I don't believe we ever figured out what "Sam Incessant: Please write!" means.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/pRbWKI.jpg
[SIZE="1"]DETAIL from ad.

It may have been a performer who appeared at the club, Sam Shapiro. as ARAHO THE HALF BREED. The website is JAZZ CITY RESEARCH Sept. 30, 2014.

http://jazzwestcoastresearch.blogspo...oom-mambo.html


Mstimc Dec 24, 2018 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8417800)
I spent some considerable time last week looking at posts of Christmas photos on NLA and didn't see any of the following ones I'm posting, but having said that, who knows? Also, they will seem familiar anyway because there's been many similar looking ones.

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This photo is facing the Security Bank building on the corner of Hollywood & Highland. On the left of the photo is the Hollywood Hotel. What caught my eye in this photo was the banners on the lighted Christmas Tree on the right, which is in front of Barker Brothers. None of the other trees have them.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/...97243e45_b.jpgjericl cat/Flickr


The banner on the right looks like the Philippine flag.

sadykadie2 Dec 24, 2018 7:14 AM

When the modern world gets too much, I open up my secret weapon! Noirish Los Angeles. I was a single mom for 12 years, a lot of dark nights. Noirish was a safe place then. Thanks forever!:cheers:

ScottyB Dec 24, 2018 8:17 AM

Here is a visit from Santa and his henchmen, uh, elves in 1925, led by mounted police parting the throngs. (perhaps on Broadway? Yes, no?)

Screengrabs from the Moving Image Research Collections at University of South Carolina


looking North I believe


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7863/...eda4a03e_h.jpg


and South

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/...393da3ee_h.jpg


What building is looming at the far end of the street?

here is the link to the film

https://mirc.sc.edu/islandora/object/usc%3A33910



Not sure if we've covered this resource before but there are lots of fascinating films to see (including an incredible movie from 1920(!) from a bi-plane over the Huntington estate, the Huntington Hotel and the Oak Knoll area).

Happy Holidays everyone!

HossC Dec 24, 2018 1:13 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8418107)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/...393da3ee_h.jpg

What building is looming at the far end of the street?

I think we're looking at the Los Angeles Railway Building at 1060 S Broadway, complete with Western Auto Supply sign on the roof. The view below is dated circa 1926.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilwayBldg1.jpg
USC Digital Library

CityBoyDoug Dec 24, 2018 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8418107)
Here is a visit from Santa and his henchmen, uh, elves in 1925, led by mounted police parting the throngs. (perhaps on Broadway? Yes, no?)

Screengrabs from the Moving Image Research Collections at University of South Car


and South

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/...393da3ee_h.jpg




Not sure if we've covered this resource before but there are lots of fascinating films to see (including an incredible movie from 1920(!) from a bi-plane over the Huntington estate, the Huntington Hotel and the Oak Knoll area).

Happy Holidays everyone!

What a scene of chaos.....including those fake reindeer, which appear to be beef calves wearing strap-on reindeer costumes.

ethereal_reality Dec 24, 2018 6:08 PM

It's Christmas Eve! I've got all my noirish minions working overtime. ;)


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odinthor Dec 24, 2018 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8418139)

I think we're looking at the Los Angeles Railway Building at 1060 S Broadway, complete with Western Auto Supply sign on the roof. The view below is dated circa 1926.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilwayBldg1.jpg
USC Digital Library

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In re: Gilbert Thayer (at mid-right in the above). Selected advertised/reported items.

All images Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library.

https://i.postimg.cc/ydxN7LmH/Thayer1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/fy0T9kqq/Thayer2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hhW4bgHD/Thayer3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/gcwvDDfQ/Thayer4.jpg

Earl Boebert Dec 24, 2018 6:46 PM

Gilbert Thayer's Elcar
 
Here's what Gilbert Thayer's Elcar would have looked like:

https://content.invisioncic.com/r277...380a35a84c.jpg

More on these fine machines from the Elkhart [Indiana] Carriage Company:

https://forums.aaca.org/topic/286100-elcar/

Cheers,

Earl

Martin Pal Dec 24, 2018 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 8418024)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8417800)

This photo is facing the Security Bank building on the corner of Hollywood & Highland. On the left of the photo is the Hollywood Hotel. What caught my eye in this photo was the banners on the lighted Christmas Tree on the right, which is in front of Barker Brothers. None of the other trees have them.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/...97243e45_b.jpgjericl cat/Flickr
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The banner on the right looks like the Philippine flag.
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You are correct!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lay%29.svg.png

Thanks for that info...

In enlarging the photo and looking more closely, in the middle of the lighted Christmas tree it does say "Phillipines." And, despite what I first said, it looks like the other trees on the street have flags of other countries accompanying them as well. Wonder what prompted the idea of internationalism this particular year?

I found a source that says this photo came from the USC Digital Library. They have a similar postcard photo of the street with flag banners and it's dated 1936. HERE.

Handsome Stranger Dec 25, 2018 12:08 AM

Happy Christmas, all you Noirishers!

https://i.postimg.cc/MHjhsgmQ/Santa-Beach.jpg

[source: USC Digital Library]

nealberke Dec 25, 2018 2:45 AM

Bright or noir holiday?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8418471)
Happy Christmas, all you Noirishers!

https://i.postimg.cc/MHjhsgmQ/Santa-Beach.jpg

[source: USC Digital Library]

Normally, we wish that everyone a "bright" Christmas, but what if you're a fan of noir????

Anyway, here's 7 noir holiday motion pictures to enjoy while pondering the conundrum.
http://www.criminalelement.com/dark-...-jake-hinkson/

TracedogsLA Dec 25, 2018 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8418301)
It's Christmas Eve! I've got all my minions working overtime. ;)


https://imageshack.com/a/img922/3422/QIEJ1w.gif
giphy

Yeah, and they're probably in some old factory on Alameda Street. Checkout that cool central belt drive system! I don't recall ever seeing one of those old things on NLA before, and yet with all the old factory photos i wonder if...

Anyway, merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the entire NLA gang here, with special Thanks to Ethereal Reality. I never really got to extend my appreciation for all the awesome work posted by everyone here in all my years of lurking and never taking time to figure out how to post comments. I guess now's a great time. So thank you all. It has truly been mind blowing.

HossC Dec 25, 2018 8:40 AM

Merry Christmas NLAers. :)

These three images are from a collection titled "Gaily decorated homes win Christmas lighting prizes", and are dated December 24, 1956. I've also included "now" pictures for each.

Whately Chandler home, 13060 Otsego St, North Hollywood

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights1.jpg
LAPL

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights2.jpg
GSV

Sweepstakes winner - Home of Mr and Mrs Paul Seaman, 6312 Cartwright Ave, North Hollywood

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights3.jpg
LAPL

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights4.jpg
GSV

Home of Mr and Mrs John P Schuh at 704 View Dr, Burbank

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights5.jpg
LAPL

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...956Lights6.jpg
GSV

AlvaroLegido Dec 25, 2018 5:45 PM

Merry Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 8418092)
When the modern world gets too much, I open up my secret weapon! Noirish Los Angeles. I was a single mom for 12 years, a lot of dark nights. Noirish was a safe place then. Thanks forever!:cheers:

And in the other way round, noirishers are grateful for your contributions. We're somewhat short of feminine sensitivities - around five I guess.

CityBoyDoug Dec 25, 2018 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 8418702)
And in the other way round, noirishers are grateful for your contributions. We're somewhat short of feminine sensitivities - around five I guess.

You don't mean this feminine type, do you? :runaway:


http://www.streetswing.com/histburl/gif/desiree1.gif
streetswing

:previous:

AlvaroLegido Dec 25, 2018 9:30 PM

Streetswing
 
[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;8418756]You don't mean this feminine type, do you?


Well, this type suits better in some room at the Gladden or in the backstage of the Bamba Club...

CityBoyDoug Dec 25, 2018 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 8418790)
Well, this type suits better in some room at the Gladden or in the backstage of the Bamba Club...

:D:rolleyes::runaway:


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