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tovangar2 Mar 1, 2013 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6034842)
On the 1921 Baist map, their Spring Street location carries two notations, one for Baker Iron Works and one for Capitol. My guess would be they moved into the Baker property sometime shortly before 1921.

Thanks, that's very interesting. As the quote typed on the old letterhead was dated 1897, I thought maybe they were at Main & Alameda temporarily while their Spring St building was being expanded by Morgan & Walls. Capitol may have a more varied and complicated history than I thought.

P.S. The 1909 birds-eye map shows Baker Iron Works next door to Capitol Milling, at N Spring and College, now surface parking:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...130%2520PM.jpg
http://www.bigmapblog.com/2011/birds...f-los-angeles/

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...513%2520PM.jpg
google maps

I don't know, the buildings have changed more than one would have thought...

MichaelRyerson Mar 1, 2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6034861)
Thanks, that's very interesting. As the quote typed on the old letterhead was dated 1897, I thought maybe they were at Main & Alameda temporarily while their Spring St building was being expanded by Morgan & Walls. Capitol may have a more varied and complicated history than I thought.

P.S. The 1909 birds-eye map shows Baker Iron Works next door to Capitol Milling, at N Spring and College, now surface parking:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...130%2520PM.jpg
http://www.bigmapblog.com/2011/birds...f-los-angeles/

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...513%2520PM.jpg
google maps

Yeah, now that is interesting. I find Baker in four separate locations on the 1921 Baist, all near one another and the Baist notations being a bit baroque it's hard to tell what they're trying to signify. Llewellyn Iron Works is pretty much in one very extensive plant down at Main and Redondo.

tovangar2 Mar 1, 2013 10:38 PM

Capitol Milling
 
Some excellent info and pix re Capitol Milling may be found here:

http://lariverrailroads.com/capitol_mills.html



Pacific Coast Architecture Database (PCAD) adds this:

"Alteration Note: In 1898, Morgan and Walls added a third story to the rear wing of the Capitol Milling Company Building and and added a fifth story to the main building."

https://digital.lib.washington.edu/a...ructures/3475/

ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6034597)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047081.jpgLapl

FredH's recent post on the Newmark building's "roasting" process. :rolleyes: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=12258


And some competition: Maxwell House, circa '24. 405 Mateo -
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046879.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6108/6...49eedea0_z.jpg[URL="Flickr"]


Another popular coffee in the Los Angeles area and beyond was...

http://imageshack.us/a/img580/8716/b...feecanebay.jpg
ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img268/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg
V.C. Buckley circa 1937

I'm trying to figure out the location of this photo. I haven't had any luck so far.





nice neon sign
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/9985/benhurcoffiesign.jpg





http://imageshack.us/a/img9/926/aabbenhurcanister.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img600/8122/a...rcanister1.jpg
http://www.prices4antiques.com/



The Joannes Brothers Company building at 800 Traction. (built 1916)

http://imageshack.us/a/img688/8065/b...brosbuildi.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/downtown/ben_hur.html






http://imageshack.us/a/img571/4223/a...hewittside.jpg
gsv





Ben-Hur coffee stand on Wilshire.

http://imageshack.us/a/img441/3851/b...lshirelapl.jpg
LAPL



and on W. Washington.

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/9862/b...50wwashing.jpg
LAPL




below: very similar to this stand posted earlier by FredH

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/1362/aabcupfredhssp.jpg


If this post doesn't make you smell coffee I don't know what would.
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ProphetM Mar 1, 2013 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6034607)

This part of the Capitol Milling Co. building was used in an episode of NCIS this season - the metro line and that whole area around the loading dock on the right.

In fact the IMDB picture for that episode has Gibbs (Mark Harmon) standing there on the north side of the building. (Where the police car is on the GSV pic.)

IMDB doesn't seem to like hotlinking so open this image link in a new window.

Or visit this page on IMDB for more photos.

ProphetM Mar 2, 2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6034736)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8...6aa7074d_o.jpg
City Hall from Fort Moore Hill, Arnold Hylen, 1951

Nice, typically stark Arnold Hylen shot of City Hall. But look right there in the middle distance, right behind that chain link fence. See that 'curb'? I think that's the south portal of the ever elusive Hill Street tunnel no. 2.

California State Library, California History Room

You are absolutely right! I didn't even notice when the photo was posted earlier.

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6035058)
This part of the Capitol Milling Co. building was used in an episode of NCIS this season - the metro line and that whole area around the loading dock on the right.

In fact the IMDB picture for that episode has Gibbs (Mark Harmon) standing there on the north side of the building. (Where the police car is on the GSV pic.)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U...825%2520PM.jpg

Pretty cool that Capitol Milling has its own Gold Line station now, even if the train no longer runs through the building :-)

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6035014)

I'm trying to figure out the location of this photo. I haven't had any luck so far.
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Sure looks familiar, but I can't place it either (& it's diving me crazy).

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...918%2520PM.jpg
V.C. Buckley circa 1937

FredH Mar 2, 2013 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6034483)



since we've been discussing jails recently...


the old central station at 1st and hill.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/2860/aabcentraljail.jpg

this was first posted way back in 2011
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4111

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I love pictures of the old central station E.R....as noirish as you can get.

Anyway, I noticed the Texaco sign and it dawned on me that I posted a photo a few days ago from right up the street.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5823/00091576.jpg
lapl

(Gladden and El Moro Hotels in the background)

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 1:13 AM

:previous: serendipitous. :)

GaylordWilshire Mar 2, 2013 1:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6035014)
http://imageshack.us/a/img268/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg
V.C. Buckley circa 1937

I'm trying to figure out the location of this photo. I haven't had any luck so far.


This is the northeast corner of Vine (left) and Romaine (foreground).

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 2:02 AM

Los Angeles Armed Forces Induction Center
 
Some amongst us can be counted on as old enough to be eligible for the military draft during the Vietnam War (oh I’m sorry…that wasn’t a war was it?) and I’m most certainly included in that group and who may have seen their life changed in a dramatic way at the old Armed Forces Induction Center at 1033 south Broadway. I remember going there for a classification physical and then visiting the Air Force recruiter in the same building and hearing the news that John Kennedy had been killed. So that was a double whammy day I won’t ever forget for two big reasons. Anyway as near as I can tell the building may still be there although it looks better now than what I remember from that day 50 years ago. I don’t recall seeing anything on the forum during my two times reviewing of the first 630 pages. Any recollections or stories???

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6034483)
:previous: that looks more like it...hill wise.

http://imageshack.us/a/img717/767/aablanewells1934.jpg
ebay
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since we've been discussing jails recently...


the old central station at 1st and hill.

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/2860/aabcentraljail.jpg

this was first posted way back in 2011
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4111

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Such a great picture…it just says walk through this door and “your butt is ours” and I love the trike parked on the sidewalk…Why isn’t Joe Friday standing in the doorway?

MichaelRyerson Mar 2, 2013 3:03 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...0078a70d_o.png
Found $2,000 in quarters -- turns it over to police, 1954

9 June 1954. Lowell Kampmann; Police Sergeant Robert Maier: Lowell Kampmann found $2,000.00 in quarters in the street, turned it into Central Police Station." I wonder how much two thousand dollars in quarters weighs.

USC digital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Collection, 1920-1961

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6035014)
Another popular coffee in the Los Angeles area and beyond was...




http://imageshack.us/a/img268/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg
V.C. Buckley circa 1937

I'm trying to figure out the location of this photo. I haven't had any luck so far.










If this post doesn't make you smell coffee I don't know what would.
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Who recognizes the ad icon above the dash in Ben-Hur? I remember it well…

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 3:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6035273)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...0078a70d_o.png
Found $2,000 in quarters -- turns it over to police, 1954

9 June 1954. Lowell Kampmann; Police Sergeant Robert Maier: Lowell Kampmann found $2,000.00 in quarters in the street, turned it into Central Police Station." I wonder how much two thousand dollars in quarters weighs.

USC digital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Collection, 1920-1961


After I got out of high school I worked for the BofA central cash vault at 11th and Figueroa, 1959 to 1962 (Staples Center is now across the street). Anyway, we processed large customer cash accounts including millions of dollars in bills and tons of coins. I kind of remember a bag of quarters of $1000 being about 50 to 55 lbs. I worked in the area where we shorted mixed coins by size (and I learned to collect coins in the process by scanning the mixed coins looking for old ones) and when the bags reached the proper amount (counted by number of units so $1000 quarters would be every 4000 units) we changed the bag, put a strap lock on and placed in the pile ready to be inventoried.

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 3:44 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img717/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6035181)
This is the northeast corner of Vine (left) and Romaine (foreground).


So the building outlined in red is the 1924 Department of Water and Power building?

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4717/aa...eatromaine.jpg
gsv





I love this building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/9485/aa...atromaine1.jpg
gsv



But the more I look at the vintage photograph, something doesn't seem right. The 'Ben-Hur' building seems to be a bit further south,
perhaps at Barton Ave. or the alley between Romaine and Barton. (see below)

for example: Here is the view from the northeast corner of Barton & Vine.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/6197/a...atbartonav.jpg
gsv

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ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 4:17 AM

OK, after fixating on this... i see that I am w r o n g.


below: This building (outlined in red) is the Dept. of Water and Power building, not the other one.

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg





and this is the view from the northeast corner of romaine and vine. GaylordWilshire was correct.

http://imageshack.us/a/img402/3097/aabbenhurg1.jpg
gsv

So what was the building that stood directly to the north of the Dept. of Water & Power building? (it appears to have had smokestacks)
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GaylordWilshire Mar 2, 2013 4:35 AM

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7...owervinest.jpgwaterandpower.org

The California Laundry--whose sign you see in ER's initial picture--was just north of the Municipal Power and Light/DWP building.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgwaterandpower.org

Above: From a little farther south. The Vine Street School is at left--the corner building appears to be new in the photo below. Most
if not all of the school buildings in this shot appear to still be there, though heavily remodeled. (Was the small building on the corner
moved back and turned 90 degrees?)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...nestschool.jpgUSCDL


In a shot over the roof of the corner Vine Street school addition--apparently taken from the roof of the DPW building--we can see
what must be the backlot of Metro Pictures.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...lroofmetro.jpgUSCDL



And now for the noir...


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8...ingofdeath.jpgLAPL

Per the LAPL caption: "Six year old, Larry Caster, fell to his death on the hard asphalt pavement from one of the swings shown, Vine Street Elementary School. Photo shows seats now removed and chains tied up. Photo dated: May 11, 1951."

Were children never to swing again on Vine Street?

Mike E Mar 2, 2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6035273)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...0078a70d_o.png
Found $2,000 in quarters -- turns it over to police, 1954

9 June 1954. Lowell Kampmann; Police Sergeant Robert Maier: Lowell Kampmann found $2,000.00 in quarters in the street, turned it into Central Police Station." I wonder how much two thousand dollars in quarters weighs.

USC digital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Collection, 1920-1961

Belmont Bob is correct. More specifically a pre-1964 quarter weighs 6.25 grams and there are about 453.59 grams in a pound. So $2000 in 1954-and-older quarters (2 bags) weighs a fraction over 110.23 pounds + plus the weight of the bags. You can handle them but you won't be going anywhere fast with them on foot. A current quarter, made of far cheaper metals, weighs just 5.67 grams.


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