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kznyc2k Jan 26, 2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5988998)
I was amazed when I came across this picture of the Culver City Rollerdrome. I didn't even know it existed.

http://imageshack.us/a/img268/9416/a...arearoller.jpg
http://culverhighalumni.org/photos-f...and-today.html

It's quite an impressive structure isn't.

The rollerdrome was located on the corner of Washington Place and Bentley Avenue. The site is now Tellefson Park.

http://imageshack.us/a/img809/9628/a...rdromesite.jpg

Here it is in 1948:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4...rdrome1948.jpg

Doing a bit of googling, Tellefson Park was dedicated in 1976 as part of the bicentennial celebrations, but the Rollerdrome was already gone by at least 1972 according to the footage available at Historic Aerials.

Very impressive building and nice find, ER!

kznyc2k Jan 26, 2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alester young (Post 5988121)
Hi kznyc2k

What a great post -thank you for hosting this.

I live in the UK and am a keen collector of 1930s/ 1940s US images -there are some really distinctive and outstanding photos here which have great impact.

Pershing Square looked way better with the banana trees -but then L.A. had to have that Joni Mitchell moment and that underground parking lot was a real must have. What a shame...

I looking forward to seeing more of your posts -hope that you can pull some more white rabbits out of the hat!

All The Best

alester young

Glad you enjoyed that! I had fun pulling those shots together as well as trying to put my own spin on a topic we all know so well. And yes those banana trees set quite the dramatic tone. Cheers from across the pond!

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2013 11:33 PM

Culver City Rollerdrome
http://imageshack.us/a/img21/84/aabrollerdrome1948.jpg

This is great kznyc2k! That's exactly how I envisioned it (it's placement). I guess the organ co. was confused.
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Is it just me, or does this look like a 1980's version of a 1920's decal?

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2498/aabrollerdecal.jpg

After staring at it a bit longer, I think it's just me.

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ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2013 11:54 PM

for you GW.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/9501/aabbonniebraepc.jpg
ebay
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kznyc2k Jan 27, 2013 12:40 AM

I'm in the mood to share some more screenshots of the wonderful LA Noire...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8047/8...4794daee_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8371/8...3e8c60ec_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8...38cd3dab_b.jpg

And a few black and whites:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8475/8...ddd28b58_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8498/8...f70956ac_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8...77712fb9_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8093/8...5772309f_b.jpg

fhammon Jan 27, 2013 1:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5981293)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8049/8...be000450_o.jpg
Salon Francais, North Broadway, Los Angeles, William H. Fletcher, 1890

The California History Room, California State Library

Looks like a rougher crowd than over at the Parisian bakery.

From Horace Bell's book "REMINISCENCES OF A RANGER":

http://archive.org/stream/reminiscen...lrich_djvu.txt
Quote:

Of all that Frankish immigration I believe there are only two
survivors in our city, and one is Madame Begon, who is the
owner of a very pretty property on Castelar street, in the upper
part of the city, and the other is one of the prominent vignerons
of the Vineyard city. At the coining of the French Filibus-
ters the Madame was in the very prime of buxom womanhood,
and started a small restaurant at the place where the Ferguson
A; Rose stable now stands, and for a reasonable compensation
would give you, in addition to a well cooked dinner and bottle
of wine, a vigorous lesson in rapier exercise, for which purpose
she kept on hand a pair of gloves, foils and masks. The
Madame was a master in the use of the foil, and my ideal
hero, Bill, was the only one I knew who could stand up to her.
The Madame was emphatically a militaire, had served twenty
years in Algiers as a vivandiere, and as a natural consequence
took easily to filibustering. How the Madame came to Cali-
fornia I am unable to say, but should the reader be curious
to know, let him call on the fat old gray-haired dame who
reclines in her easy chair and lives easily off her rents, at her
residence on Castelar street. As far as the French Sonora
filibustering emigration to Los Angeles is concerned, Madame
Begon stands high.


Godzilla Jan 27, 2013 2:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5988280)
November 23, 1962 - 636 Dunsmuir (Little if anything has changed other than some new paint and tenants.) :)


http://cbk2.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026748.jpgLapl



1935 - 621 S. Dunsmuir

http://cbk0.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026822.jpgLapl

Surprised no one identified the 4 door sedan parked in front of 636 :previous: and next to the seemingly ubiquitous VW Beetle. According to the advertisement :below:, the sedan was available in 1959 right around the corner at Max Barish Chrysler Plymouth 444 South La Brea. Harry Angle, Inc at 4627 (?) Hollywood Blvd had them too. Chrysler imported them "direct from Paris," or at least that's what the ad says. Of course, in 1962 when the photo was taken, the sedans were probably available on used car lots in the area.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the (1959?) Simca Aronde 4 door sedan.:photographer:(Evidently Chrysler dropped the "Aronde" name as part of its marketing strategy.)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...0109_simca.jpg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com

http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/19/a2/b4cb_10.JPG EBay

tovangar2 Jan 27, 2013 2:13 AM

Castlelar St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5989181)
From Horace Bell's book "REMINISCENCES OF A RANGER":

http://archive.org/stream/reminiscen...lrich_djvu.txt

Of all that Frankish immigration I believe there are only two
survivors in our city, and one is Madame Begon, who is the
owner of a very pretty property on Castelar street, in the upper
part of the city, and the other is one of the prominent vignerons
of the Vineyard city. At the coining of the French Filibus-
ters the Madame was in the very prime of buxom womanhood,
and started a small restaurant at the place where the Ferguson
A; Rose stable now stands, and for a reasonable compensation
would give you, in addition to a well cooked dinner and bottle
of wine, a vigorous lesson in rapier exercise, for which purpose
she kept on hand a pair of gloves, foils and masks. The
Madame was a master in the use of the foil, and my ideal
hero, Bill, was the only one I knew who could stand up to her.
The Madame was emphatically a militaire, had served twenty
years in Algiers as a vivandiere, and as a natural consequence
took easily to filibustering. How the Madame came to Cali-
fornia I am unable to say, but should the reader be curious
to know, let him call on the fat old gray-haired dame who
reclines in her easy chair and lives easily off her rents, at her
residence on Castelar street. As far as the French Sonora
filibustering emigration to Los Angeles is concerned, Madame
Begon stands high.

Is this Madame Begon and her pretty property on Castelar (from e_r's post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11733)?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...124%2520PM.jpg
eBay

tovangar2 Jan 27, 2013 2:27 AM

Simca
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5989201)
Surprised no one identified the 4 door sedan

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the 1959 Simca 4 door sedan.:photographer:

I should have recognized it. I had a slightly newer one. I loved it.

kznyc2k Jan 27, 2013 5:35 AM

I'm a bonafide car nut albeit a younger one, and I've never heard of a Simca. Should I feel embarrassed??

GaylordWilshire Jan 27, 2013 9:52 AM

:previous:


http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8...amsoncolor.jpgAlden Jewell



kznyc2k: Let's just say that of all the cars your father might have brought home from Williamson's, you prayed that it wouldn't be a Simca. Chrysler imported them from about 1958 to '71. Definitely ladies' cars, like the even less attractive Renault. French cars had a not-undeserved rep as quirky and unreliable; English imports did too, but theirs was mitigated by the cool factor of MG and Austin-Healey roadsters....


3153 W Pico (@ St Andrews) today:

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6...liamsonnow.jpgGoogleSV


Williamson Motors was on Pico until moving to 4661 W Slauson @ La Brea, now the site of a gas station, around 1961.

MichaelRyerson Jan 27, 2013 1:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5989181)
From Horace Bell's book "REMINISCENCES OF A RANGER":

http://archive.org/stream/reminiscen...lrich_djvu.txt

Thanks for the quote, Bell's book is on my very short list. If I read this correctly, she started out on Ferguson Alley (where the stable was then in business) and then moved up to Castelar. Can't be absolutely sure, the olde language and punctuation sometimes defeats me. My photo was identified as being N. Broadway but we all know about those early captions. Something unsettling about trying to eat your meal while faced with a large woman with a sword.

fhammon Jan 27, 2013 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5989461)
Thanks for the quote, Bell's book is on my very short list. If I read this correctly, she started out on Ferguson Alley (where the stable was then in business) and then moved up to Castelar. Can't be absolutely sure, the olde language and punctuation sometimes defeats me. My photo was identified as being N. Broadway but we all know about those early captions. Something unsettling about trying to eat your meal while faced with a large woman with a sword.

This is what used to be Mme Begon's store on the corner of Ord and Castelar (now Hill St.). The "pretty property". She had an apartment in the back. You can see the entrance on the far right side of the building. In addition to the store she had the restaurant.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...gon&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/25339/rec/1

Here's a better photo probably some time later judging from the telephone poles. The caption says "Ord and Broadway" but I believe that's incorrect. It was Ord and Castelar.

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/3656/rec/8

MichaelRyerson Jan 27, 2013 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5989473)
This is what used to be Mme Begon's store on the corner of Ord and Castelar (now Broadway). The "pretty property". She had an apartment in the back. You can see the entrance on the far right side of the building. In addition to the store she had the restaurant.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...gon&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/25339/rec/1

I believe Castelar ultimately became Hill Street while Buena Vista became N. Broadway with the opening of the Broadway tunnel in 1901. With the coming of the 'new' courthouse, that part of Buena Vista that was south of Bellevue (Sunset) and ended at Temple became Justicia.

fhammon Jan 27, 2013 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5989214)
Is this Madame Begon and her pretty property on Castelar (from e_r's post http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11733)?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...124%2520PM.jpg
eBay

The sign clearly says Ord and Castelar. I do believe that's Antoine and Marie Begon and their daughters in the photo.
I guess her grocery store was on Ord and Broadway after all.

We discussed her at length at Pueblo Plaza. "To make things more interesting: While Monsieur Begon was accusing Mme. of being cruel at his divorce proceedings, she was stating for her part that he was trying to poison her. Fun times in old L.A.!"

fhammon Jan 27, 2013 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5989481)
I believe Castelar ultimately became Hill Street while Buena Vista became N. Broadway with the opening of the Broadway tunnel in 1901. With the coming of the 'new' courthouse, that part of Buena Vista that was south of Bellevue (Sunset) and ended at Temple became Justicia.

You are correct. I made the change. Thanks.

MichaelRyerson Jan 27, 2013 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5989499)
You are correct. I made the change. Thanks.

The Chinatown branch of the Los Angeles public library is now located at this intersection although I can't be sure which corner Madame Begon's store occupied. I don't know why (probably the angle of the sun) but I've always thought she was on the northeast corner. I think the library is on the southwest corner.

Godzilla Jan 27, 2013 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 5989344)
I'm a bonafide car nut albeit a younger one, and I've never heard of a Simca. Should I feel embarrassed??


Hard to say what someone should know on any given subject. I have known a lot, but cannot prove it because I have forgotten almost as much as I have known.

In the States, car manufacturers and their extensive dealership networks worked hard to promote their own businesses to the exclusion of brands popular in Europe and to a lesser degree Asia. Post WW2, the American public's eyes widened when servicemen returned from overseas with morsels of continental auto offerings. Quaint air-cooled Beetles substantially impacted American auto tastes. It did not hurt that US auto manufacturers had ownership stakes in many Euro manufacturers. Chrysler, being one such example.

The Simca ad criticizes rear-engine and front wheel drive cars that were still a novelty in the US. It is interesting that Simca was already producing, or set to produce, those criticized designs, and of course, Chrysler went on to produce its own version of front engine-front-front-wheel drive cars. General Motors had a different take on the competition with the Corvair. We now return to our regularly scheduled broadcast . . .



1960 - Austin Healy Sunbeam (no caption) Catch pan protects linoleum.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021632.jpg



1962 - Frank Millard's Sports Car Center in Encino. (Who wore red, Frank or Roy?) Maury Wills, pictured in MG Midget, wore Dodger Bleu.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050629.jpg Lapl

Godzilla Jan 27, 2013 6:41 PM

Image dated February 19, 1937
Anyone put an address to this residence? It's a '35 Ford btw.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020821.jpgLAPL


1929 - Ruxton Prototype Radiator Cowl embossed question mark may explain why the vehicle was known as the, "Mystery Car." It is obviously front wheel drive. (No address or other info offered by source. License Plate seems to be Pennsylvania, but presumably SoCal related - see below.)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020849.jpg
LAPL

Front drive
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics02/00020847.jpg

Another view of the '29 Ruxton Prototype.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021476.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021470.jpgLAPL


1927 "Group of players form the cast for Al Christie's entry in the "Old Settler" picnic, 1927. This may have been the annual event of the Hollywood Old Settlers group. The vehicle is unidentified."
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021603.jpg

Godzilla Jan 27, 2013 6:46 PM

Take a long trip?
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021639.jpg


Mount Wilson or bust?

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics04/00021627.jpgLapl


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