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Fab Fifties Fan Feb 2, 2012 8:58 PM

Wonderful post sopas_ej!

Such a crying shame that the academy, or whoever, chose to demolish the building once they were done with it. By the photos you posted, it appears to have been a beautiful venue.:(

~Jon Paul

jg6544 Feb 2, 2012 9:37 PM

Malumot, the interesting thing to me, though, is how solidly the L.A. of the 20s-50s was built. They put up some serious public infrastructure (before the freeways) and some gorgeous residential neighborhoods as well. There are a couple of threads on City Threads A-M featuring Hancock Park, Windsor Square, etc. Those neighborhoods were built to last! L.A. is like a kid that grew up quickly and became a stable, mature adult.

minkykat Feb 2, 2012 11:29 PM

Does anyone have any pics and/or info of LA mortuaries in the 1920's such as Pierce Brothers?

Thanks

minkykat Feb 3, 2012 2:01 AM

Also, does anyone know of a good store that would have a great collection of back issue magazines from the 1920's thru the 1980's here in LA? There used to be a place in Burbank.

Thanks

cantoneseboyLA Feb 3, 2012 3:40 AM

I'm surprised to see Little Joe's, the building was a three story bay-windowed Victorian. In this photo, looks like it was taken in early fiftys due to the cars in the parking lot. The Nuccio family apparently replaced the two streetfacing walls into Streamline Moderne with new brickwork and new smaller windows. The building was long occupied by elderly Cantonese pensioners. The Paris Inn building is still there, now a part of Bing Wong Apts and a restaurant. The white building in the left distance on the southeast corner of College and Hill sts. is still there, now a Ai Hoa supermarket, its upper 2nd story were once a mahjong club and a tax office, now long vacant and empty. Can anyone in the thread have closeup photos of Little Joe's? How amazing!

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2012 4:07 AM

I've been looking everywhere for more information regarding Billy Berg's, the first interracial nightclub in Hollywood.
It was located at 1356 Vine Street (near or at DeLongPre Avenue).

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1...presecorne.jpg
http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...llie%20Holiday



I found this information at Wikipedia.....but no photographs :(

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9...swikipedia.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Berg's







A kerfuffle broke out involving Ms. Holiday at Billy Berg's on New Year's Eve..December 1948/Jaunuary 1949.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8...escription.jpg
http://foundsf.org/index.php?title=B...olliday_Busted



below: Ms. Holiday leaving the county courthouse on New Year's Day.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3...olidaysarr.jpg
http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...llie%20Holiday



below: Billy Berg's location today...

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5752/sbldgtoday.jpg
google street views

The 'Felix in Hollywood' blog includes the corner building as well.....but I'm not so sure.
If we could find at least one photograph perhaps we can place it on the corner (1360 Vine at De LongPre Ave.)
Until then I'm sticking with the street address of 1356 Vine...the address in the newspaper ad.





To help make all this tangible...'Felix in Hollywood' included this ashtray.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/695...lywoodblog.jpg
http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...llie%20Holiday

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3940dxer Feb 3, 2012 4:49 AM

The Tamale Restaurant
 
The Tamale Restaurant, 6421 Whittier Blvd., East L.A. in 1920

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/1920thetamale.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...86986&page=161

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/the-tamale-lapl.jpg
LAPL

And today

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Tamale.now.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6845356...1740/lightbox/

Derek Feb 3, 2012 6:57 AM

Woah! That's awesome the structure still survives!

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2012 7:39 AM

Liquor store MURDER at 5601 S. Main Street on July 14, 1951.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2...ooting1951.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1328253824696



http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2...ooting1951.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1328254441447




below: The liquor store was on the ground floor of this arts n' crafts home.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...ootingloca.jpg
google street view




below: Another view showing the address as 5601 S. Main Street.

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6...ootingl256.jpg
google street view





below: The victim's wife being comforted....notice that the lettering on the window says 'Las Palmas Cafe.
I wonder if this cafe was located in the same building as the liquor store...or is this an entirely different location? It's a bit confusing.


http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2...ooting1951.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1328254441447

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ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2012 8:27 AM

Another postcard from ebay with no information.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8...ressivebri.jpg

I'm pretty sure this is the Arroyo Seco Parkway.....but I'm not sure about the bridge.

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sopas ej Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM

:previous:
That is indeed the Arroyo Seco Parkway; that's the York Boulevard bridge.

Steve Hoffman Feb 3, 2012 5:28 PM

Big Jean Spangler murder story on front page of NBC News website today:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...h-is-a-mystery

BDiH Feb 3, 2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5561524)
I'm not sure about those lights, I'm thinking they're recreations of what used to exist on the retaining wall that was demolished.

Thanks for that link. I don't understand the "garden" reference either. Union Station definitely does have courtyards or gardens, but I don't understand the directions in that link.

Great pics of the Gerry Building, guys! I love that building. I walked by it last year, I may have taken pictures of it but I'd have to search through my computer file folders.

The contemporary photo of the Metropolitan Water District building at Los Angeles Union Station (LAUS) shows the new roadway that skirts the south side of the property. The original road passed along the old Railway Express Agency (REA), which unloaded shipments from the railroads and put them onto their trucks to be delivered around the city.

The retaining wall overlooked Aliso Street, (including Philippe's) and the Pacific Electric red car route. When the streetcars were shut down and the freeway was built, LAUS was untouched. The aerial photograph shows the original commissary (under the aforementioned ramp), where food was stored and prepared for the dining cars. The tractors that pulled the commissary wagons later used the same route that passed by the REA offices.

There are two patios at Union Station, the North Patio and the South Patio. They are located on either side of the main concourse


Handsome Stranger Feb 4, 2012 1:36 AM

Another recent eBay find.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...lord%25201.JPG
[source: eBay]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...lord%25202.JPG
[source: eBay]

(These two images were originally the same size. Wish I could figure out why Picasa shrunk the first one.)

FredH Feb 4, 2012 1:56 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;5575421]I've been looking everywhere for more information regarding Billy Berg's, the first interracial nightclub in Hollywood.
It was located at 1356 Vine Street (near or at DeLongPre Avenue).

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1...presecorne.jpg
http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...llie%20Holiday

Mike Hammer, doing some nightclub integration of his own in Kiss Me Deadly

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6...ssmedeadly.jpg
Kiss Me Deadly, Universal Pictures

ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2012 2:12 AM

:previous: Perhaps they filmed that scene at Billy Berg's.

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I came across this area by total accident and I couldn't believe my eyes.
There in front of me was this wonderful little park (Terrace Park as it turns out).

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6...viewfrom14.jpg
google street view




Are those mansions over there?

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5...cefrom14th.jpg
google street view



Sure enough.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5...cefrom14th.jpg
google street view





These very impressive homes are located on Alvarado Terrace.
(I searched back through the thread and somehow we have overlooked this interesting area)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1...rracemapk1.jpg
google maps


below: The park doesn't even show up on my 1947 map.

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8...ace1947map.jpg




below: This shows the six mansions that overlook Terrace Park. On the left is a classic apartment building....we'll get to that later.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/819...f1aerial1b.jpg
google street views





below: I love all the steps leading up to the various homes.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8...ce1400bloc.jpg
google street view





below: I later learned that this is the Pomeroy Powers Home. Some sources say it was a restaurant in the 1990s.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8...ce1400bloc.jpg
google street view




http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8...ce1400bloc.jpg
google street view



http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8...ce1400bloc.jpg
google street view




http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/914...race1300b1.jpg





below: This is the Gilbert House.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7...errace1333.jpg
google street view




In disrepair.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9953/alv1gilbert.jpg



Luckily it's been saved. They even rebuilt the chimney. Bravo to them!

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3...lanmarksfl.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7294653@N07/1974893244/




below: The apartment building on Alvarado Terrace.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9...ceexpanse1.jpg




http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8...ce1400bloc.jpg
google street view







If you search Alvarado Terrace at the USCdigital archives surprisingly only one photograph comes up.

below: The Riveroll Family House in 1904 located at 1406 Alvarado Terrace.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9...ceriveroll.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1328320407457



below: The Riveroll House is located across the street from the apartment building. This is how it appears today.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9...ceriveroll.jpg
google street view




below: Next door to the Riverolls is the honeymoon bungalow Pomeroy Powers built for his daughter as a wedding present.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/ZY9Avg.jpg
google street view



If you would like to research this area further here is an interesting link.
http://laaggregator.wordpress.com/category/1900s/

This link gives you the names and dates of the various houses.

TMSteele Feb 4, 2012 3:18 AM

minkykat,
Valahalla Memorial is of that vintage. The grounds have a very distinctive portal:

It use to be at the main entrance prior to the Victory Blvd entrance:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

3940dxer Feb 4, 2012 3:37 AM

The Trackless Trolley of Laurel Canyon, The Log House, Lookout Mountain
 
I recall seeing a few photos of Laurel Canyon's trackless trolley here before. I'd have liked to reference the previous post but couldn't find it. Anyway, here are some nice shots and an L.A. Times article that tells the story.

This neat little rail line began running in 1913 and shut down just 2 years later, when it was replaced with Stanley Steamer steam powered buses. The line ran along Laurel Canyon, between Sunset and Lookout Mountain Drive and gave access to Bungalow Land, which was developed by the entrepreneur who built the trolley.

At that time I believe that Laurel Canyon ended at Mulholland, or whatever the ridge top road was called back then. The northern side of L.C. extending to Ventura Blvd and the Valley was built in the 1940's.

This L.A. Times article at the end of this post mentions the Log House, a road house at the Lookout Mountain intersection. Tom Mix lived there and much later, Frank Zappa.


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/CHS-43704.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...view/CHS-43704


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics18/00018878.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics14/00006874.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/P...ialbrowse=null


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/laurelcanyon.gif
http://crosbyentertainment.com/own_a...od_history.htm

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/WonderlandParkAd3.jpg
http://laurelcanyonassoc.com/20cHist.html


Building the trolley.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/CHS-7177B.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1328283489927


Lookout Mountain.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/Lookout.card.jpg
ebay


The road to the Lookout Mountain Inn.

http://laurelcanyonassoc.com/Images/LookoutRoad.jpg
http://laurelcanyonassoc.com/Canyon1900.html

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-7337?v=hr
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../view/CHS-7337


http://laurelcanyonassoc.com/Images/LookoutMtnInn.jpg
http://laurelcanyonassoc.com/Canyon1900.html


http://hiddenlosangeles.com/wp-conte...11/Tavern1.gif
http://hiddenlosangeles.com/what-lies-beneath-9/


Here's an L.A. Times story from 1946 with a more complete account of the Trackless Trolley.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/LCyn/out-4b.jpg
http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

I think the Log House was at 2401 Laurel Canyon Blvd. I don't know whether this was the same site the Tavern Inn. Does anyone know? I'll do a little more digging and try to add a "now" photo of the location.

Also, I've noticed what looks like remains of an old stone fireplace or foundation on the west side of Laurel Canyon near Lookout and plan to go back to see just what is there. Maybe this was the Log House property. Very interesting area, great history.

minkykat Feb 4, 2012 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMSteele (Post 5576820)
minkykat,
Valahalla Memorial is of that vintage. The grounds have a very distinctive portal:

It use to be at the main entrance prior to the Victory Blvd entrance:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

Whoa, Nelly! I have yet to check that out, didn't even know about it!
Oh, joy! Another cemetery to drag the hubby thru!

minkykat Feb 4, 2012 5:08 PM

Does anyone remember seeing the old Ivy H. Overholtzer funeral home just off the 110/10 back in the '80's and '90's? I remember seeing the place when I first came here 15 years ago but per Google and Bing, it seems to be gone.


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