SkyscraperPage Forum

SkyscraperPage Forum (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/index.php)
-   Found City Photos (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   noirish Los Angeles (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170279)

Martin Pal Mar 13, 2016 6:33 PM

E_R first brought our attention to the Cliff Dwellers Restaurant on Beverly Blvd. with this post featuring some photos being sold on eBay:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25297

Another related post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25325

The ebay photos had some markings over the photos for sale purposes. I recently discovered those five photos online in larger format and without the markings,
so I hope you don't mind if I repost them here E_R!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7606/1...9ca8e978_b.jpg


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8609/1...31cc444a_b.jpg


https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7622/1...92544c99_b.jpg


https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7615/1...787269e8_b.jpg


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8688/1...e53080bc_b.jpg

HossC Mar 13, 2016 8:05 PM

We've seen Tilford's Restaurant, and later incarnations, before on NLA, but not in as much detail as these Julius Shulman images. This is "Job 044: Wurdeman & Becket, Tilford's Restaurant (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1946".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Reflected in the window are the sign of the Keston Drug Co in the E Clem Wilson Building, and the roof sign of the Fox Ritz Theatre.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Now the interior shots. Through the window on the left you can see Deco pylon of Murphy's Oldsmobile dealership at 740 S La Brea Avenue. It survived until sometime between 2009 and 2011.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Up until last February (at least), the building was still standing - we've seen it before.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
GSV

The latest GSV image, however, shows an empty lot with new construction in progress.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

Noircitydame Mar 13, 2016 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7369278)
Apologies if these images don't show up straight away. It took about six previews before I could see all of them :(.



Thank you so much, NCD, I think you've nailed it. Beverly Hills was given as the location for Earl Scheib's neon globe, but there may have been one at every branch.

Now I'm dying to see this neon globe.

HossC Mar 13, 2016 9:33 PM

:previous:

Here you go, NCD. Earl Scheib's neon globes.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
www.roadarch.com

According to the source, this one came from a branch in Compton.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
chief_huddleston on Flickr

Noircitydame Mar 14, 2016 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7369532)
:previous:

Here you go, NCD. Earl Scheib's neon globes.

Thanks!

love globe neon...

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00042476.jpg lapl
Crossroads of the World

ethereal_reality Mar 14, 2016 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7369419)
E_R first brought our attention to the Cliff Dwellers Restaurant on Beverly Blvd. with this post featuring some photos being sold on eBay:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25297

Another related post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25325

The ebay photos had some markings over the photos for sale purposes. I recently discovered those five photos online in larger format and without the markings,
so I hope you don't mind if I repost them here E_R!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7606/1...9ca8e978_b.jpg

:previous: Of course I don't mind Martin_Pal. It was great seeing the photos again, especially without the markings.

Your posted reminded me of an amazing silent short I recently came across that briefly shows the 'Cliff Dwellers'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/uQYyl4.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCjQrGKPpU


I tried to adjust the color but only made it worse. :( I hope you all like yellow.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/qpPhnV.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/gvMY5h.jpgyt

Pretty cool huh--



It also showed the Zulu Hut!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/9jiZCQ.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCjQrGKPpU


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/HiCzNI.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/2VM1Lr.jpgyt

I thought for sure the next stop was going to be MONKEY ISLAND. -alas, it didn't happen.



But we do get to see the 'Jail Cafe' with the dummy up in the faux-guard tower.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/GSE8NR.jpg





I can't remember if we've seen the Cave Barbeque.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/lxGG9P.jpgyt

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/r03wzi.jpgyt



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/t9zJEQ.jpgyt
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________





Let's back up to the beginning if you don't mind.


The silent short is entitled "Hollywood the Unusual".

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/w75In3.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCjQrGKPpU


And it was directed and photographed by William Taylor (would this be William Desmond Taylor?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/t27BGe.jpgyt


The emphasis is on esoteric architecture. Many of the examples we've seen before on NLA, but I was surprised by how many I wasn't able to place.

Here are a few. (I'm hoping you wonderful noirishers will recognize some of them)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/m87jCX.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/3ml8XM.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/BU83pV.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Moq1U9.jpgytube




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/rtcFlK.jpgytube



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/SU9l7u.jpgyt




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/44qVrm.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/gmzPK5.jpgyt

This looks like a Frank Lloyd Wright, but I'm not entirely sure.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/sAQKak.jpgyt


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/eGCSkH.jpgyt






After a visit to Sid Grauman's Egyptian Theater (don't miss the man with the cape walking along the roof-line)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/HOyvbg.jpg



Mr. Taylor explores the Egyptian Craze.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/SfnFJW.jpgyt




We've seen the Sphinx on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/IOlBmt.jpgyt




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/ThuAnl.jpgyt

:previous: Marco Rubio ears.




...and I believe this apartment building is still standing, if I'm not mistaken.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/xJ7nB8.jpgyt





Have we seen this real estate office before?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/zV2XFh.jpgyt






But this impressive residence doesn't ring a bell at all.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/CgBHH7.jpgyt



-here's a lady and her dog in the courtyard. (I believe this is the same place as shown above)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/Fb2pbT.jpgyt


The film visits many other unique places in Hollywood, like the 'Tam-O-Shanter Inn', the 'CALPET' service station on Wilshire, the 'Patio Del Moro' and 'Andalusia' apartments,
the Westwood scenic tower, the 'Mexican Village' etc. -and...there are additional 'mysteries' (like the 'Lighthouse' real-estate(?) office)


Now pop some popcorn and watch the film yourself. Have fun!! It's truly remarkable.

Here's the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCjQrGKPpU

__

hosedagain Mar 14, 2016 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6994996)
I recently came across the following screen-grabs in a box of old CDs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/qClXXu.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/A0Zszx.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/ejS9P9.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/zdINfn.jpg

:previous: What's that little hut?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/Ns2YFd.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/7yCYJp.jpg



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/8WajO2.jpg
__


It turns out, the short 2:45 minute video was first posted by sopas_ej way back in 2012. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JO5izL_3Jo

The one and only follow up post was GW's (below).



...but 1435 N. Highland Avenue is here.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/vHPoX8.jpg
google_earth

So what is the building with the large Wax Seal Co. sign on it's roof?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/A0Zszx.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JO5izL_3Jo

___



And then there's this screen-grab from the same video (at 1.56)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1nMZof.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JO5izL_3Jo



Some commenters on YouTube think it's a Tucker, (below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/6opqyW.jpg
wiki


...while others think it's a 1949 Cadillac Fastback.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/ZIrIoi.jpg
wiki

What do you guys think?

You can watch the video for yourself here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JO5izL_3Jo

__

The grey car is a 1948 Tucker, Google for pictures
1949 Caddy, way off

CityBoyDoug Mar 14, 2016 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hosedagain (Post 7369777)
The grey car is a 1948 Tucker, Google for pictures
1949 Caddy, way off

Welcome to the Forum thread....Hosedagain.

There was a lot of controversy about the car as I recall. I said it was the Caddy. But its very hard to tell by the blurry photo. Others said it was a Tucker.

Bristolian Mar 14, 2016 3:16 PM

:previous:

FWIW, I think it's a Cadillac. Although the original photo is blurry, you can make out the two slats that divide the rear window. The closeup photos show that the Caddy has these and the Tucker does not.

Earl Boebert Mar 14, 2016 3:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 7370110)
:previous:

FWIW, I think it's a Cadillac. Although the original photo is blurry, you can make out the two slats that divide the rear window. The closeup photos show that the Caddy has these and the Tucker does not.

Agreed.

Cheers,

Earl

GaylordWilshire Mar 14, 2016 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hosedagain (Post 7369777)
The grey car is a 1948 Tucker, Google for pictures
1949 Caddy, way off


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...1%2BAM.bmp.jpg


I'm sticking with a '48 or '49 Cadillac fastback (with a roof rack)-- with just 51 built (52 in some sources) it seems highly unlikely that a Tucker would have been caught randomly on camera over a decade after it was built (judging by the profiles of other vehicles in the particular clip the car in question shows up in, such as the white pickup-truck-like vehicle, which has all the earmarks of the Ford Econoline, first out for the '61 model year; I know of no Tuckers that had a three-part backlight, the sort of rear bumper guards and trunk handle evident, if only slightly, on the fastback car in the picture. In addition, the rounded hood seen in the car in the clip is unlike the distinct pointy nose of the Tucker. But mostly, rarity--especially for post-1960.

Godzilla Mar 14, 2016 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7369705)

I don't believe we've seen this one before..... The Cave Barbeque

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/lxGG9P.jpgyt

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/r03wzi.jpgyt

I'd so love to know where this one was located.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/t9zJEQ.jpgyt

__



Cave was on Cahuenga. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=28908



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/27110/rec/80

jg6544 Mar 14, 2016 5:58 PM

OK, the war is over. Dump Daylight Saving Time!

broadwy_central_bldg Mar 14, 2016 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7369705)

...and I believe this apartment building is still standing, if I'm not mistaken.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/xJ7nB8.jpgyt

__

The Karnak apartments! Still there at 5617 La Mirada Av.

Covered on the LA Times home design blog a few years ago: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/home...hollywood.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...41e1970b-300wi

via LA Times

There's also a twin building nearby designed by J.M. Close, the Ahmed apartments. Close designed a few other Egyptian-inspired buildings around the mid-1920s following the craze that resulted from Carter's discovery of Tut's tomb.

HossC Mar 14, 2016 8:09 PM

Here are Julius Shulman's photos of the Cathay Bank at 777 N Broadway. This is "Job 4818: Eugene Choy, Cathay Bank (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1971, 1972".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

And now the interior shots.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The set includes several black & white images, but most of them are closely duplicated in color. There was, however, no color shot of this room.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

There's no point doing a "now" picture, because the building still looks virtually the same from the outside, but you can read more at laconservancy.org.

HossC Mar 14, 2016 8:59 PM

After seeing Godzilla's picture earlier today, I thought I'd see if the lonely house on the hill (far right) was still standing. Here's a close-up.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Detail from picture in USC Digital Library

I think I've found it at 3895 Fredonia Drive. Trees now block our view from the south and east, but the layout looks right. The property websites give a build date of 1929 (the USC image is dated 1931).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Google Maps

HenryHuntington Mar 15, 2016 4:43 AM

What's that little hut?

It was a passenger waiting shelter for the PE line that had been abandoned by the time the photograph was taken.

Martin Pal Mar 15, 2016 5:04 PM

Look at all this neon!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3825/1...c36f76e1_b.jpgJericlCat/Flickr

Truman's Drive Inn and Dining Room
Chicken / Steaks

The Clayton Plumbers sign is outstanding -- a faucet with the drip drip drip coming out of it!

The FORD billboard's pretty "neat", too!
_______

Although I can't find it at the moment, I have seen a 1952 dated postcard of this place somewhere
locating the restaurant at the corner of Wilshire Blvd. and Westwood Blvd. Which was somewhat
surprising to me as now there are, I believe, tall office buildings on each corner of that intersection.

And this 2008 L.A. Times article confirms the address:

"In 1970, a 24-story office building now known as Oppenheimer Tower replaced
Truman's drive-in, a popular hangout at Wilshire and Westwood boulevards."


The photo source notes that this Clayton Plumbing sign is now at the Museum of Neon Art (MONA).

HossC Mar 15, 2016 6:29 PM

:previous:

Here's an earlier postcard of Truman's Drive Inn, which also places it on the corner of Westwood and Wilshire Boulevards.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...n.jpg~original
eBay

From what I've read, the original Clayton Plumbers sign is in storage at MONA, but is beyond repair. The one on show is a replica. "The Leak Stops Here!"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...g.jpg~original
www.roadarch.com

Handsome Stranger Mar 15, 2016 8:37 PM

HossC, thanks for the photos of Tilford's on the northwest corner of La Brea and Wilshire. I've been fascinated with that building for some time, so it was wonderful to see such a detailed look at it inside and out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7369471)
The latest GSV image, however, shows an empty lot with new construction in progress.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

They're working on a new subway station which will be accessable on both the northwest and southwest corners of this intersection. There is also a lot of tunnel work going on right now. I work in the Dominguez Wilshire building nearby, so I'll see if I can grab a couple photos from an upper floor one of these days.


All times are GMT. The time now is 3:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.