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HossC Apr 15, 2015 8:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6990691)

It's what happened at the time of the 1969 Equitable Plaza that interests me.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...35907%2BPM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...35100%2BPM.jpg

above: nowandthen

Both articles say the hotel will be reconfigured and continue operations. Did that actually happen? If so, when did it finally close and get demolished? Just curious. Thanks.

The Pacific Coast Architecture Database (PCAD) says the Chapman Park Hotel was demolished in 1967. Another page at PCAD references an LA Times article from 07/09/1967 - the article is called "Bowing out--demolition work on the Chapman Park Hotel". Maybe someone with an LAT subscription can dig it out.

IMDb.com lists the Chapman Park Hotel as a filming location for a 1966 episode of 'The Fugitive' called 'Death Is the Door Prize'. I haven't seen the episode, but it might be worth checking out as it's only a year before the demolition date quoted on PCAD. The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Aerial1972.jpg
Historic Aerials

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2015 11:18 AM

An interesting detail of the Chapman Park Hotel story...from the Times, Oct 5, 1967


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...736%2520AM.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...757%2520AM.jpg:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...2/mural3-2.jpg


Photo from and more on Alfredo Ramos Martinez here: http://www.alfredoramosmartinez.com/...hronology.html

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2015 11:30 AM

The year started off looking good for the Chapman Park Hotel...from the Times, Jan 9, 1967:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520AM.bmp.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-S...itadbottom.jpg

tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 2:36 PM

Chapman Park Hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6991034)
The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Aerial1972.jpg
Historic Aerials

in 2004:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b...70925%2BAM.jpg
Paramount


It looks like it stayed a parking lot until the current building went up circa 2005-6. So actually the Chapman Park Hotel had a pretty good run, all things considered. 42 years is longer than the parking lot that replaced it got.

2014:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...74022%2BAM.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2015 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6991034)
IMDb.com lists the Chapman Park Hotel as a filming location for a 1966 episode of 'The Fugitive' called 'Death Is the Door Prize'. I haven't seen the episode, but it might be worth checking out as it's only a year before the demolition date quoted on PCAD. The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/TCL4AW.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/3Dqfn7.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


Directly behind the 'Secret Harbor'(?) awning is the Wilshire Brown Derby.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/GEqN5U.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


The 'fugitive' first views the Chapman Park Hotel from a bus window.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/05peuP.jpg


Here is a nice view of the front gate on Wilshire Blvd.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/KvU803.jpg


..just inside the gate. (note the sign for the west bungalows)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/nf1P2t.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/u31H4m.jpg


..a side view of one of the bungalows.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/XBaBXf.jpg


'mystery' building in the distance.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/Mjd0Km.jpg


..looking toward the main building, with bungalows lined up on both sides.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...633/Et8ps4.png


..a brief glimpse of the rooftop sign.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...633/p9zRBP.jpg


..a side gate on Alexandria Ave. (that's the Gaylord in the distance)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/NXoM7i.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/dL1HYV.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/SWKTDL.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


sans title
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/yuZjbE.jpg


..two views of the Chapman Park hotel pool.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/l8yAug.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/dGJYIO.jpg
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'mystery' building

At one point in the film, a building in the same general vicinity is visited.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/YZySAf.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/CLGcnb.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/eLyVj5.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/daxUQ0.jpg


..in this view you get a quick glimpse of an ornate canopy over the entrance. (upper right corner)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/njlv1L.jpg

You can view the entire episode here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4

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HossC Apr 15, 2015 4:12 PM

Great screengrabs, e_r. I didn't expect the Chapman Park Hotel to feature so prominently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6991265)

'mystery' building in the distance.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/Mjd0Km.jpg

The picture below is from post #7101. A photo of a 1939 fire at the Chateau La Martine appears in e_r's post #21141.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5650665)

Chateau La Martine at 627 S. Normandie...

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2...martinebig.jpgLAPL


tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 5:55 PM

Chapman Park Hotel
 
Great coverage e_r. I'm glad it was so nicely documented. Looking at your screenshots one really feels like one's visited the grounds

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6991265)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...70716%2BPM.jpg
nowandthen
(more pix at the link)

The pool area, next to the main building, was to have new bungalows built for the 'modernized' version of the Chapman Park Hotel.

P.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6991265)
You can view the entire episode here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4

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Thanks, that was fun.

Wilshire signage:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...11147%2BAM.jpg
youtube

The place looked great. Hard to believe it was rubble a short time later.

HossC Apr 15, 2015 7:30 PM

I've just found this aerial view from 1968 which shows the Equitable Plaza at about eight floors high. The Chateau La Martine is roughly in the middle on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

It looks like the two-story building on the 6th Street side of the block survived slightly longer than the main Chapman Park Hotel building and bungalows. I'm pretty sure this is the building seen in e_r's picture below. The 3506 address on Ed's Tailoring would be right for this location. There seem to be plenty of pictures available showing the north side of the 3500 block of 6th Street (and deservedly so), but I'm finding views of the south side elusive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6991265)

'mystery' building

At one point in the film, a building in the same general vicinity is visited.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/eLyVj5.jpg


tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 7:37 PM

Chapman Park Hotel and Buildings
 
LAPL has a couple of 1974 views showing the parking (somewhat) within the footprint of the Chapman Park Hotel's main building:

The Chapman Park Studio Building is across W 6th:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...21656%2BPM.jpg
lapl

The 1929 Chapman Park Market Building diagonally across the intersection of W 6th and Alexandra from the former site of the Chapman Park Hotel. The DuBarry, at 3471 W 5th, is in the distance:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...21854%2BPM.jpg
lapl

I wish I could find a demo photo.

The 1929 DuBarry is by S. Charles Lee:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...24447%2BPM.jpg

With a great neon sign:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...24623%2BPM.jpg

last two pix: hereforadventure

srk1941 Apr 15, 2015 7:46 PM

[QUOTE=tovangar2;6991539]Great coverage e_r. I'm glad it was so nicely documented. Looking at your screenshots one really feels like one's visited the grounds

The landscape here is by Kathrerine Bashford and Fred Barlow, Jr. Too bad it's gone, AND the wonderful Ramos Martinez mural. Bashford and Barlow worked on another project that had a Martinez mural, the Davidson Residence in Palm Springs, known as the "Ship of the Desert." The architects were Erle Webster and Adrian Wilson, with interiors by Honor Easton (she got an AIA Award for them), mural by Martinez, color consulting by Millard Sheets.

tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 6991715)
The landscape here is by Kathrerine Bashford and Fred Barlow, Jr.

Thank you for that info. I was really admiring the lush, mature landscaping in the ep. A beautiful environment.

Ed Workman Apr 15, 2015 8:14 PM

[QUOTE=tovangar2;6986680]Thank you Wig-Wag and Ed Workman, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5...02837%2BAM.jpg
modelingthesp

Good account of the 1959 Lark-on-Lark collision here

Just to "clarify" directions, the point of collision is the Railroad West switch of Serrano. The locomotive is from the northbound Lark #75. It is headed just about compass due south, and had it stopped properly at the absolute signal, it would then proceed around the point of the mountain [ thru a tunnel, bypassed within 3-4 years] and regain compass north to continue on its SP Westbound journey. Got it? This will be on the midterm
Thanks for the newspaper articles

tovangar2 Apr 15, 2015 8:19 PM

The Larks, still bravely singing, fly
 
:previous: LOL, I really am taking notes! I love this stuff.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...15011%2BPM.jpg
slo tribune

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2015 8:27 PM

mystery location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/yidkAb.jpg
old file / possibly ebay

I believe the sign on the large building at left says Mastin or Mastix Drugs.

It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?
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Here's an enlarged detail of the sign.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/CCeQ6y.jpg

Earl Boebert Apr 15, 2015 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6991792)
mystery location.

[
old file / possibly ebay

I believe the sign on the large building at left says Mastin or Mastix Drugs.

It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?
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Here's a detail of the sign.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/CCeQ6y.jpg

I get Mastin for sure.

Cheers,

Earl

Tourmaline Apr 15, 2015 8:35 PM

Thanks to Chapman Park contributors. :previous: (Always wanted to attend a Hi Fi Show there!)



For more perspective: Chapman Park, deja vu.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/37/chapman21125.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/37/chapman21125.jpg

See: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6522642&postcount=20666


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1MlgxNj...SxwFe/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1MlgxNj...SxwFe/$_57.JPG

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2015 8:53 PM

Since we're revisiting the Chapman I thought I'd repost this. (the color postcard gives you an overall view of the layout)



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4911078)


Ed Workman Apr 15, 2015 8:54 PM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6991792]mystery location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/yidkAb.jpg
old file / possibly ebay

.

It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?

Follow the overhead wires carefully. The wire over the near- apparently rusty- track veers to the pole on the other side of the street, and the bracket arm is only over the far track. This is the end of the line. Thus check your LARy-LATL map for the end [s] of the S route. You may need an assortment of years to see if the S line had been cut back

Ed Workman Apr 15, 2015 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6989859)

That icecream factory became a Foremost plant. The present day pix remind me that I have not been in that area for a coupla decades, so I don't know when it was razed

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2015 8:59 PM

Ed Workman wrote:
"Follow the overhead wires. The wire over the near, apparently rusty, track veers to the pole on the other side of the street,
and the bracket arm is only over the far track. This is the end of the line.
"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...633/yidkAb.jpg



:previous: Thanks for the explanation Ed. I see what you're talking about.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4911079)

Another view of the VERY cool Zephyr Room.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/874...park1962ze.jpg
calisphere




below: Interior of the Zephyr Room. (the bar side...the coffee shop is on the right through the open doorway)

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1...zephyrloun.jpg
calisphere



below: Last but not least, one of the Chapman Park Bungalows

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...parkbungal.jpg
calisphere

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So was the Secret Harbor (shown in the screen-grab below) located in the corner building that once housed the Zephyr Room?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/GEqN5U.jpg


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