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Jularc Oct 31, 2007 9:58 PM

NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS
 
The GiraSole


http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/6gxj9s6.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/66j67lv.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg http://i11.tinypic.com/681ws9j.jpg


New York, NY
Client: The Moinian Group
Completion: 2011

Situated in the heart of Manhattans newest neighborhood, the dynamic Hudson Yards District, 3 Hudson Boulevard, "The GiraSole" will be a gateway for the West Side and an icon of green architecture for the 21st Century. From its sky gardens to the reaches of the new Hudson Boulevard Park, this new 1.6 million square foot tower will be surrounded by green. Soaring to a height of over a thousand feet, it will offer unparalleled views south and west over Hudson River Park, the High Line and the new park and development of the Hudson Rail Yards. A solar power-generating tower, "The GiraSole" will set a new standard for mixed use development by uniting premium corporate offices and the most exclusive residences with the state of the art in environmentally sustainable design. The project is on track for LEED Platinum certification.


http://fxfowle.com/

Jularc Oct 31, 2007 10:01 PM

Here is an old article...


Between The Bricks


By LOIS WEISS
November 9, 2005

Joseph Moinian is another West Side fan who is putting his money where his mouth is.

We hear Moinian contracted to buy yet another Verizon building on the east side of 11th Ave. opposite Javits.

This is one of the area's four super corners, where sources say he intends to construct a soaring, 1.5 million-foot mixed-use tower that will include retail, hotel, offices and residences.

The 47,000-foot site at 555 W. 34th St. is next door to his Infinity Court apartments.

David Noonan and Jimmy Kuhn of Newmark handled the brokerage, just as they did for Moinian's Verizon purchase on 11th Ave. between 42nd and 43rd Streets.

Moinian is working there on a design for another 1.5 million square footer, next to the Costas Kondylis-designed apartment building he bought as plans from Jules Demchik and which is currently rising skyward.


Copyright 2005 NYP Holdings, Inc.

toddguy Oct 31, 2007 10:11 PM

Wow. Very impressive.

Jularc Oct 31, 2007 10:14 PM

:) And on the next block we will have this other tall one, that is proposed aswell...

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...lding_pic1.jpg

Girasol...

http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

toddguy Oct 31, 2007 10:18 PM

They look like they will complement one another very well. That will be one hell of a view down that street when they are done-talk about looking like a canyon!

Dac150 Oct 31, 2007 10:24 PM

:stunned: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

This is 100% AMAZING!! The fact that it came out of nowhere made the surprise even better.:yes: Sherwood has a nice neighbor, thats for sure.:tup:

Once again: :banana: :cheers: :banana:

R@ptor Nov 1, 2007 1:07 AM

Good news.

But considering the size and the location of this building couldn't they have come up with a more original design...something like the Chicago Spire or 80 South Street.

Dac150 Nov 1, 2007 1:11 AM

I think its very bold. It stands out, makes people on the street look up. I for one am not a fan of the CS design. This works well for my taste.

StarScraperCity Nov 1, 2007 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jularc (Post 3138319)
:) And on the next block we will have this other tall one, that is proposed aswell...

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...lding_pic1.jpg

Girasol...

http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

Those two will definitely compliment each other very well. I can't wait to see these projects move forward. :)

aluminum Nov 1, 2007 2:01 AM

Supertall. *yawn*
Wait a minute, "supertall with No Spire !!!! :omg:" :cheers: :cheers: :tup:

Quixote Nov 1, 2007 2:16 AM

Nice proposal.

Nowhereman1280 Nov 1, 2007 2:19 AM

I like it, it kinda reminds me of something Foster would design. It also has no spire, NY needs a supertall with no spire... Not saying that spires are inherrently bad, but a flat top is nice for a change.

cityguy Nov 1, 2007 2:24 AM

Very exciting project.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jularc (Post 3138289)
The GiraSole


http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg http://i11.tinypic.com/681ws9j.jpg

this new 1.6 million square foot tower will be surrounded by green. Soaring to a height of over a thousand feet, it will offer unparalleled views south and west over Hudson River Park, the High Line and the new park and development of the Hudson Rail Yards.

1,000 ft or more is fantastic for that site. It's also right next to Extell's potential 980 ft Convention Center hotel, not to mention the vast railyard development just to the south, which will also include 1,000 fters...

The stacking plan is a little confusing though...

Jularc Nov 1, 2007 3:04 AM

:) Also lets not forget about this 800 feet tower at 366 10th Avenue that is close by... Supertalls for NYC, keep them coming! :cheers:

http://www.cityrealty.com/graphics/u...extelholl2.jpg

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jularc (Post 3138889)
:) Also lets not forget about this 800 feet tower at 366 10th Avenue that is close by... Supertalls for NYC, keep them coming! :cheers:

That's exactly right. The towers over the railyards will have to be tall to stand out from surrounding developments.

NYC2ATX Nov 1, 2007 4:46 AM

"HOLY.......FUCKING........SHITT!!!!!!!"

....that was my immediate reaction to this thread.

I just can't believe this. These are like the two (or three- I wanna see a better rendering of the 10th Avenue tower) most thrilling proposals I've seen in quite a while.

34th and 42nd are on their way to becoming the first two complete cross-town canyons (correct me if I left any out).

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Aleks Nov 1, 2007 5:50 AM

Awesome. This part of town will look great!

All those 3 projects in a vicinity, cool...What's the height of the square tower on the first render of post 4? Does it have a thread?

Tom Servo Nov 1, 2007 6:35 AM

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...lding_pic1.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg
Wow, these are both really beautiful. Along with the NYTimes Building, BOA, TrumpSoHo, WilliamBeaverHouse, 7WTC, etc... NYC is collecting some VERY nice buildings. IMO, dispite some REALLY awful exceptions, most of what's going on in NYC is really nice... in fact, i'd even go as far to say that NYC is at the forefront of American Architecture right now.



*NYC is showing the rest of the world how to do glass skyscrapers the right way.*

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 10:55 AM

Relationship of this tower with various westside developments:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88233817/original.jpg__http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg

All of those developments have their own threads.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleks0o01 (Post 3139171)
What's the height of the square tower on the first render of post 4? Does it have a thread?

No final height yet...more renderings here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=129431&page=2

Swede Nov 1, 2007 12:04 PM

I, for one, welcome our new Westside giants. This in is looking real good, nice glass facade and yet a contrast with the also-nice glass tower next door.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3139335)
Relationship of this tower with various westside developments:
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88233817/original.jpg__http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg

This shows how much there's a need for better subway access to the area.

Thefigman Nov 1, 2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3139335)
Relationship of this tower with various westside developments:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88233817/original.jpg__http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg

All of those developments have their own threads.


And there's also the MSG and Penn Station redevelopment to the east.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/69904123/original.jpg

This cluster will be a sight to behold. The ESB will be almost lost from view from the Jersey side. :)

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thefigman (Post 3139383)
And there's also the MSG and Penn Station redevelopment to the east.

This cluster will be a sight to behold. The ESB will be almost lost from view from the Jersey side. :)

Yeah, there will be a steady stream of giant towers from the ESB all the way to the Hudson. We need something taller on the eastside to balance it out some. The Con Ed site should have been much more than it is.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swede (Post 3139364)
I, for one, welcome our new Westside giants. This in is looking real good, nice glass facade and yet a contrast with the also-nice glass tower next door.


This shows how much there's a need for better subway access to the area.

True. This tower sits over what will be the final stop on the 7 train. My only concern (a small one) is that what happened with Downtown Brooklyn development doesn't happen here. There was a similar rezoning to create commercial development there, but it has been overtaken with residential developments. We know that Sherwood hasn't decided between office or hotel on its massive 2.5 msf tower. This area was rezoned specifically to be Manhattan's 3rd business district. I just hope the bulk of what's been rezoned north of 34th Street for office towers doesn't get eaten by residentials.

But I still welcome this new supertall...(which looks more office btw)....:banana:

NYonward Nov 1, 2007 2:20 PM

Wow. Just when I thought the westside was going to be a repeat of midtown-east, the Girasol design is released.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 2:27 PM

The west side developments are moving along faster than I thought. But we haven't seen anything yet. Just wait until the full scope of the railyard plans are released...:yes:

Also, looking at the design, Im understanding it a bit more. It's mixed-use, which explains the direct subway connection...

http://i11.tinypic.com/681ws9j.jpg


http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg


http://i3.tinypic.com/6gxj9s6.jpg

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 2:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jularc (Post 3138289)
The GiraSole

New York, NY
Client: The Moinian Group
Completion: 2011

Situated in the heart of Manhattans newest neighborhood, the dynamic Hudson Yards District, 3 Hudson Boulevard, "The GiraSole" will be a gateway for the West Side and an icon of green architecture for the 21st Century. From its sky gardens to the reaches of the new Hudson Boulevard Park, this new 1.6 million square foot tower will be surrounded by green. Soaring to a height of over a thousand feet, it will offer unparalleled views south and west over Hudson River Park, the High Line and the new park and development of the Hudson Rail Yards.
http://fxfowle.com/


Directly to the south, fxfowle will have a hand in the World Product Center:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 2984125)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08012007...lois_weiss.htm

COPA SITE'S NEW IDENTITY
FORMER NIGHTCLUB TO BE A CUTTING-EDGE MEDICAL SHOWROOM


http://www.nypost.com/img/cols/loisweiss_btb.jpg

August 1, 2007 -- THE former Copacabana site at the southeast corner of 34th Street and Eleventh Avenue is morphing into an approximately 1.5 million-square-foot skyscraper that could become the home of the World Product Centre, a showroom that will feature the latest in high-tech medical equipment.

WPC is the brainchild of Israel Green, who has just signed a letter of intent with Gary Barnett for a "full 1 million square feet," which will be about 70 percent of this new Extell Development project.

The 45- to 50-story building is being designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox with WPC innards by FXFowle Architects.


Antares41 Nov 1, 2007 2:52 PM

Just a sign of things to come. Whether you like the design or not it significant in that it shows that NYC will be a participant in building supertall bldgs. It may take a while, but, given the demand for commercial space and the aging commercial office bldg infrastructure, NYC will remain very relevant when it comes to supertall construction.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antares41 (Post 3139592)
Whether you like the design or not it significant in that it shows that NYC will be a participant in building supertall bldgs.

Right. Given the fact that just a few short years ago, people were writing off tall skyscraper construction in the city (in the aftermath of 9/11), it's really impressive. It's as if the floodgates have opened, as the bulk of skyscraper developments on the west side now include 1,000 footers. It will be really interesting to see who pushes away from the crowd, creating the dominant tower in the area.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 3:28 PM

Hudson Yards zoning...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88241577/large.jpg

ZZ-II Nov 1, 2007 3:45 PM

wonderful supertall :), please start it as soon as possible!!

Alliance Nov 1, 2007 3:49 PM

50 stories and 1000'???? seems like that crown is a bit bigger than depicted.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alliance (Post 3139712)
50 stories and 1000'???? seems like that crown is a bit bigger than depicted.

You can count here:

http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpg_http://i11.tinypic.com/681ws9j.jpg

As we know, stories don't translate into height.

I count more than 60 though...

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 4:37 PM

http://curbed.com/archives/2007/11/0...yards.php#more

The GiraSole Coming to Hudson Yards?

http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_girasole1.jpg


http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_girasole2.jpg


Thursday, November 1, 2007, by Joey

Our public demanded it, so here it is. In yesterday's Linkage, someone commented that we should cover the GiraSole (and then called us "hoes"). The GiraSole? Ah yes, the GiraSole! Visitors to the Javits Center may have notice a huge walled-off pit across the street, with Moinian Group signage all over it. The plot will be the latest in a group of new high-rises surrounding, and occupying, the Hudson Yards. The above, as pointed out by the eagle-eyed SkyscraperPage forum users, is what architecture firm FXFOWLE suggests occupy that pit, at 555 West 34th Street. But if this mixed-use monster gets built, don't expect the view to remain the same as the above rendering.

First, the facts on the building. According to FXFOWLE, the GiraSole will be completed in 2011. The thousand-foot office/condo tower will also be green as hell, with "sky gardens" and a solar power-generating crown. LEED Platinum certification is also on tap. Pretty exciting stuff, but can it steal the spotlight from its various upcoming neighbors. A SkyscraperPage member put together this graphic, showing all the new gigantic developments in the immediate area, including architect Steven Holl's Towering S.

There can never be enough PAX, 'wichcraft, Cafe Metro and Pronto Pizza locations to cater to this influx of office drones. That 7 Train stop sure is going to be a party, though.

http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_girasole3.jpg

tdawg Nov 1, 2007 4:58 PM

wow. how many 1,000+ do we have proposed/under construction now in the city? anyone know?

ZZ-II Nov 1, 2007 5:03 PM

completed 2011? think they've to start soon

aluminum Nov 1, 2007 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 3139865)
wow. how many 1,000+ do we have proposed/under construction now in the city? anyone know?

A lot of them are proposed, its hard to keep track of them. But only one real 1000 footer is U/C.

AtlanticaC5 Nov 1, 2007 5:25 PM

Now this looks very promising! A real cluster with a couple of giants on the West side would be sweeet :)

STERNyc Nov 1, 2007 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZ-II (Post 3139881)
completed 2011? think they've to start soon

Nothing's set in stone. I checked the DOB website and couldn't find anything. But they're already excavating the site. And I've sporadically checked the Fox and Fowle website for almost a decade now and they don't post fantasy projects.

What's really surprising to me is that Extell is starting work on a tall tower as is Moinian. Has the 7 line even started construction yet? Right now there is no middle ground, theres these construction sites and then gas-stations, chop shops, junk shops, mcdonalds, clubs, and parking lots.

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 6:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 3139865)
wow. how many 1,000+ do we have proposed/under construction now in the city? anyone know?

That's hard to nail down because so many developments are in a state of flux. We know there are 3 at the WTC site, but it could be twice that or more in Midtown (not including BofA and Times).

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STERNyc (Post 3139982)
What's really surprising to me is that Extell is starting work on a tall tower as is Moinian. Has the 7 line even started construction yet? Right now there is no middle ground, theres these construction sites and then gas-stations, chop shops, junk shops, mcdonalds, clubs, and parking lots.

A lot of this will happen simultaneously. The City has quietly acquired all of the land it needs for the subway extension, and the planned Hudson Boulevard. Everything is moving according to plan, except the Javits Center expansion. Spitzer came into office with the promise of moving things along, but has proven to be just as slow if not worse than Pataki in getting these things moving along. Despite that however, the rest of the developments are taking shape.

Because of complications regarding the winner of the railyards site, and its various bidders/tenants, some of the other developers in the area are waiting to pick up the pieces from the fallout. Everyone looking to may get to move to the west side, one way or another.

It's like the city has created a big playground for developers, and said "go out and play!"

BVictor1 Nov 1, 2007 7:17 PM

http://i3.tinypic.com/6gxj9s6.jpg

It's nice, simple.

It reminds me somewhat of an extruded version of 7WTC from certain angles.

VA_Gentleman Nov 1, 2007 8:08 PM

Great tower. Great news. It reminds me a little of the citigroup center.

Dac150 Nov 1, 2007 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3139611)
Right. Given the fact that just a few short years ago, people were writing off tall skyscraper construction in the city (in the aftermath of 9/11), it's really impressive. It's as if the floodgates have opened, as the bulk of skyscraper developments on the west side now include 1,000 footers. It will be really interesting to see who pushes away from the crowd, creating the dominant tower in the area.

True to no end.:yes: I am just very happy that this supertall and many more to come will make home in the Manhattan Skyline.

This reminds me of when skyscrapers in Manhattan were just starting out. Nothing built back then but TALL, beautiful, bold, iconic buildings. These new developements prove that history does indeed repeat itself.

CoolCzech Nov 1, 2007 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aluminum (Post 3138742)
Supertall. *yawn*
Wait a minute, "supertall with No Spire !!!! :omg:" :cheers: :cheers: :tup:


Oh, yeah, they're such exciting looking... rectangles:rolleyes:

Doesn't it ever occur to you that spires add variety and excitement?

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 3140279)
This reminds me of when skyscrapers in Manhattan were just starting out. Nothing built back then but TALL, beautiful, bold, iconic buildings. These new developements prove that history does indeed repeat itself.

This rendering also reminds me of those old photos of the early days, when buildings like Rockefeller Center and Chrysler were first built. They dominated in a way that would be hard to imagine now. This tower likewise will be surrounded by other towers in the future. In fact, its hard to say if this would be the first to rise at all.

http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 10:19 PM

Comparison to other monoliths...

http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1008/...d1dac6be_o.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66811556/medium.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66462508/medium.jpg


http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_girasole2.jpg

BVictor1 Nov 1, 2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3140401)
Oh, yeah, they're such exciting looking... rectangles:rolleyes:

Doesn't it ever occur to you that spires add variety and excitement?

When integrated properly into the overall design of a building and not just ploped on haphazardly.

charmedone Nov 1, 2007 11:03 PM

wow anoyther 1000 footer its about time new york city builds bigger i mean they have in the past few years but they have been useing spires to cheat the hight of there buildings im glad to see that these builldings dont have that


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