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The Pasadena Winter Garden was developed by Cliff and Phil Henderson, who built the Pan-Pacific Auditorium too.
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Why, thank you e_r.
The Mesnager stone barn is a long way up there. The Mesnagers owned a waystation down on Glendale Blvd to rest and water the horses before starting up the hill. Louis Mesnager planted fifty deodar cedar trees (native to India) for shade on the grounds. A few, not lost to the 1933 and 2009 fires, still stand. Quote:
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It used to be the Don Lee Cadillac/La Salle dealer: http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics30/00049736.jpg LAPL |
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in September of 1984, the address for the Blue Palm Cafe was 6126 Hollywood Blvd. The building it is located in housed a theatre: From the report: Although this theatre has been remodeled, it continues to play a role as part of the Hollywood Boulevard theatre district. Originally built in 1927 as a legitimate theatre specializing in musical comedy, the Music Box, as it was known, was owned by the Beveridge estate, heirs of Daieda Wilcox, wife of Hollywood's founder. When not used for stage productions, it became a broadcast facility. A tiny restaurant, the Blue Palm Cafe, occupied the storefront at 6126 during the 40's and 50's, and was a popular tourist spot. Located just two blocks east of Vine Street, the Music Box was one of 5 significant legitimate theatres, along with the Palace, Huntington Hartford, and the El Capitan, which provided theatre goers with Live dramatic productions, and often featuring film stars. These houses, along with the flamboyant movie palaces of Hollywood Blvd., formed an entertain- ment district of exceptional quality and diversity in the 1920's, 30's. and 40's. The theatre district was popular with,tourists and residents alike. Most of the theatres remain today, although several, like the Pix, have been converted to movie houses. The report, a pdf file, can be downloaded HERE. If you do, this info is located on pages 31-32. This report, labeled Part 1, is 125 pages long. I didn't read it all, but it discusses numerous buildings that might be deemed of historic interest along Hollywood Blvd. and all reports seem to have been written and or filed in the late 70's to early 80's. Many have xeroxed photos and/or hand drawn map locations attached. Might be worth browsing for some undiscovered information we haven't covered before. Like the "Blue Palm Cafe!" So, when built, the building housed the Carter DeHaven Music Box Theatre, named for the father of movie star Gloria De Haven. The report above says it was built in 1927. The Cinema Treasures website says it had an opening date of October 20, 1926. Here it is in 1928. http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-2.jpgBruce Torrence Looking east. http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-3.jpgBruce Torrence In 1931. Great roof signage, which I believe says: Hollywood Music Box Revue of Revues The Pick of the World in Girls http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-19.jpgBruce Torrence "Women Go On Forever" starring Bessie Barriscale http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-8.jpgBruce Torrence No word if that's Bessie in the photograph. It looks like the Blue Palm Cafe would eventually be located on the right side of the building here. Theatre Entrance: http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-12.jpgBruce Torrence A couple interiors: http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-14.jpgBruce Torrence http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-22.jpgBruce Torrence This photo indicates it is a movie scene being filmed in the theatre: http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-9.jpgBruce Torrence Undated: (Fanni ? - Brice?) http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1314631690 http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/493/photos/23993 "Chicago" was probably referring to the 1926 stage play on which the musical is based. There was also a fantastic silent film version (1928) that I've seen on screen before. In 1942, another film version starred Ginger Rogers and was titled Roxie Hart. This theatre has had a lot of name changes and various uses over the years: It opened (above) as a legit theatre. In 1936 it became a radio studio theatre. It returned to a legit theatre in the early 40's and later on reopened as a movie theatre. It's shown all kinds of films from premieres, to first run to revival. It's shown x-rated films and spanish language films. It returned as a legit theatre, again as the Henry Fonda and has since had special performances, been rented out for various activities and shown live dance concerts. In 2007, a restoration was begun to bring it back to its 1926 appearance, and it was renamed The Music Box @ Fonda. In 2010, it reverted back to its original Music Box Theatre name. It was closed suddenly in early-January 2012, but by April 2014 has since re-opened as the Fonda Theatre. The names, in order, according to Cinema Treasure, have been: Carter DeHaven Music Box Theatre Fox Theatre* Pix Theatre Guild Theatre Henry Fonda Music Box Theatre The Music Box @ Fonda Music Box Theatre Fonda Theatre *not to be confused with the Fox Theatre at Hollywood Boulevard and Wilcox Avenue, which was the old Iris Theatre Information above compiled from Cinema Treasures. Here are some various other photos of it over the years: This 1958 LP cover was taken in front of the Music Box. http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1398443059Image credit Capitol Records. Footage (0:58) of the Pix Theatre from the 1968 film, "The Kiss Off". http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9eCK3n7kUbA/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eCK3n7kUbA 1972 Pix Theatre (X-rated "Africa Uncensored" (?) open 'til 4am!) http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-043-1.jpgBruce Torrence And a used Fiat dealer next door. too! [In 1975, "The Pix" was one of the first release theatres for JAWS, 40 years ago, on June 20, 1975.] The Pix in January, 1983. Great shot of it's colorful neon sign. https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4033/4...cf384385_b.jpgTerry Guy/Flickr 1987, as the Henry Fonda Theater. http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-020-1.jpgBruce Torrence Now: The Fonda http://drinks.seriouseats.com/images...0bluepalms.jpg I originally started out hoping to find another pic or two of the Blue Palm Cafe and, alas, I did not. (Nor any photos of the theatre with the "Fox" or "Guild" names.) But to come full circle a bit, look what I noticed in the pic above; this blue sign! https://598d5fcf392acad97538-395e647..._t489ff888.jpg http://gustla.com/wp-content/uploads...epalmsEXT.jpeg There's another Blue Palm named establishment here! Co-incidence or not? On their website I emailed them and asked if they'd known another place called the Blue Palms Cafe was at that address. 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Thanks Martin for the history of the Music Box. I knew it as the Pix. The signage was gorgeous.
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...72717%2BPM.jpg fanpix Barriscale was at star at Kay-Bee for Thomas Ince in the early days, known for her expressive eyes. She was a producer as well as an actress: https://wfpp.cdrs.columbia.edu/pione...ie-barriscale/. Barriscale left films in 1921 and returned to the stage. Priceless: Quote:
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...but in the vintage photograph (detail below), the Blue Palm Café appears to be on a corner. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/NHlDgn.jpg detail So wouldn't it have been located in the building next to the 'Fonda' theater? (the 'burnt umber-colored' building on the corner) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/8MsdQK.jpg gsv but that begs the question; what happened to the second floor!? |
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That's great ER. We're like one happy family...each helping the other somehow. After it closed I did notice that the building became not a Post office but a Post Office Sorting Center for a while. Oh yeah the ice skating day. I had to drive home and change my Levi's for cord pants as those were...excuse me, more acceptable..:D I learned ice skating at the University of Illinois, Champaign. Here I am at in Campus Town - Champaign, Illinois....that's snow still on the ground in April. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psakjc9x5x.jpg |
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In the full eBay image (below), it looks like there's an arrowed sign in the top right corner that's pointing to 6064 Hollywood, which would put us east of Gower. On the left is a store selling furs, but in 1949, that doesn't narrow the search much. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABluePalm1.jpg eBay To conclude: I can't find any other Blue Palm Cafes on Hollywood Boulevard, but I'm not convinced that this one was at 6124. The description (below) definitely says it's Hollywood Boulevard. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABluePalm2.jpg eBay This piece about the Blue Palm Cafe from Billboard dates back to October 24, 1942. I can see "Meat Balls" advertised in the original photo, but no mention of dancing or entertainment. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABluePalm3.jpg books.google.com |
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Isn't it Champaign? Two more shots of the Winter Garden: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520AM.bmp.jpg Bothsquareone.org https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...2520AM.bmp.jpg Times Dec 6, 1966 |
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Here's an exceptionally good photograph of the Union Station Post Office Annex.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/BiLNn3.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/GJR4Bp.jpg eBay :previous: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/i2rN85.jpg eBay Working space is provided for 1,800 people! -the two corner towers rise to 70ft. This building is much larger than I thought Also..."Three penthouses have been built on the roof." What's that all about? __ |
I just found this in an old file of mine.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...905/MaD4Di.jpg Does anyone know, where in highland Park this was located? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/yJI58Q.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/L1xgbP.jpg old file / eBay (?) The architecture is highly unusual, especially for an American school; It wouldn't be out of place in the Russian countryside. __ |
6262 Sunset Blvd, 1960 & today
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...rgancamera.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520AM.bmp.jpg Vintage Los Angeles-Richard Wojcik/GSV |
:previous: I like that 'before & after' GW. So Morgan Camera is still in business?
This is a rather nice look at the giant gas-meter(s) that once stood along the Los Angeles River, downtown. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/grDFVj.jpg eBay :previous: and that Santa Fe train engine is pretty cool looking too. The seller thought the slide was taken in the 1950s. __ |
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My first thought is that the photos I have found, so far, of this building are from the late 20's and early 30's and then, except for the album cover, which doesn't help a great deal, the next ones are from 1968 to present. Except for the initial photo E_R posted, assuming it is the same address, we don't have any photos of the building from the late 30's to the late 60's. The Guild Theater and Fox Theater incarnations, for example. That's 30 years or more. (There's a clue in there somewhere!) Now, take the following photo I posted and compare it to the one above. Looking east. http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-3.jpg The one thing that matches exactly in both photos is the street lamp in both shape/style and location to the building. But there are many ponderables. 1.) The second floor has no windows in the 1928 photo. But the front windows in the 1949 photo are very different than the 1928 windows, but remodeling could account for it. In later incarnations there are "no" second story windows at all. 2.) We see there's a parking lot through there. If, for any reason, the building next to it was not there for some period of years and it was a larger parking lot entrance, that might account for a traffic signal there in the 1949 photo. There is just such a situation a few blocks from me on Santa Monica Blvd. at present. (And there was a Fiat car dealership there in the 1972 photo I posted.) 3.) Maybe means nothing, but there are very large trunked palm trees on both sides of the street. 4.) Did the CAFE blade sign use the Music Box blade sign? They're in the same location. 5.) HossC, in your post you wrote: "This piece about the Blue Palm Cafe from Billboard dates back to October 24, 1942. I can see "Meat Balls" advertised in the original photo, but no mention of dancing or entertainment." In the 1949 photo where you see the two-lighted signal, behind that, painted on the wall of the building, might that say CONTINUOUS ENTERTAINMENT? 6.) If it is Hollywood Blvd. in the 1949 photo, are there P.E. car tracks in the road? I can't tell if they are there or not. 7.) Here's another 1931 photo of the building at an angle, showing the Cafe might have been on the corner of it, the way it's configured and the ample space next to it. http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/T-023-18.jpgBruce Torrence Still questions out there, for sure. |
We've seen Wilshire's Miracle Mile many times before, but here's the "Golden Mile".
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...GoldenMile.jpg eBay If it was still standing when the picture above was taken (it's difficult to tell), I think the Cavalier Hotel would have been between the third and fourth large buildings on the right. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lierHotel1.jpg eBay Here's a better look at the pool. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lierHotel2.jpg laist.com I decided to look at Historic Aerials to see how long the Cavalier Hotel lasted. In 1947, this part of Wilshire was mainly empty lots. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rHotel1947.jpg Historic Aerials Wilshire had filled in considerably by 1952. The Cavalier is the hollow square building just below the center. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rHotel1952.jpg Historic Aerials It's still there in 1972, as its neighbors continue to grow in height. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rHotel1972.jpg Historic Aerials Gone by 1980. It looks like the site was used as a temporary parking lot before the next building went up. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rHotel1980.jpg Historic Aerials Today you'll find the Park Wilshire condos at 10724 Wilshire Boulevard. From what I've found, I think they were built around 1989. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rkWilshire.jpg GSV |
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