Here's a link to an enormous version of that map -- compliments of Robert Marsh & Co.:

https://www.lapl.org/sites/default/f...rsh%201913.jpg

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Here are a couple of photographs of an impressive house in Pasadena.


They're both labeled:..."PHOTOGRAPH HOUSE/HOME YARROW MAYHEW'S PASADENA LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA OLD PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/wtSpS1.jpg
eBay



This closer view just sold a few minutes ago.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/65WtLW.jpg
eBay


Nice place.


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Has anyone heard of Toberman Street?


"PHOTOGRAPH CARPENTER TOBERMAN STREET HORSE/WAGON LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/pkzGG4.jpg
eBay



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e_r, your wish is my command:

https://i.postimg.cc/GmS1M4p5/Toberman001.jpg
Bekins map, dated 1904

Toberman Street was mentioned in one of Raymond Chandler's novels, The High Window if memory serves. Just another fun fact (if it's correct) retrieved from the sub-basement of a minion's storehouse of NLA trivia.

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Memory still serving you well HenryHuntington.

whyp.it - 135 Toberman Street

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I'm going to say that this is a view toward the SWC of Venice Blvd and Toberman, with 1603 Toberman the house we see at the corner.... Almost more of an alley, Toberman ran north from Adams to Washington, then widened to 120' up to Venice—which at the time of the photo was 16th Street—then, with a jog west, up to Pico. Streetcar tracks intersected Toberman at Pico, 16th/Venice, Washington, and 23rd St.... The southerly lots south of Pico straddling Toberman run n/s; the NEC of Washington doesn't work Sanborn-map-wise, but the SWC of 16th/Venice and Toberman does...see below.

1603 Toberman appears to have been built in 1897 or so along with at least its two southerly neighbors, 1607 and 1611. At the time of the vintage image 1603 was occupied by Daniel Peterkin, a clerk at Brent's, the big credit furniture store.

Permits indicate that 1603 was owned by Anna Stine of 4128 Wilshire Boulevard in 1929, when a demolition permit was issued for it--though a permit issued the next year authorized its move to the NEC of 23rd St and Wellington Road...though if it was moved, it's gone now.


https://i.postimg.cc/nLLJ40j2/toberman-Sanborn-bmp.jpg

Hollywood Boulevard - Santa Claus Lane - 1945
 

Another Pacific Electric employees' magazine front page, from the January, 1946, issue. The information from the inside of the magazine says: "COVER PICTURE — Santa Claus Lane, 1945, was a beautiful example of the art of Hollywood lighting engineers. Photographer Harley B. Talbott made this time exposure from the top of the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel one cold December night. The camera was looking east on Hollywood Boulevard. One of PE's main transfer points, Highland Avenue and Hollywood Boulevard, is near the foreground."

https://i.imgur.com/TmHM0sU.jpg

Source: Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/pe-mag-1946-01-jan

Some prominent buildings still stand. The photographer took the picture from the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel which is intact at 7000 Hollywood Boulevard. The building with the illuminated sign "Barker Bros Hollywood" is today the home of the Disney "El Capitan" movie theater at 6838 Hollywood Boulevard, The Hotel Drake building is now owned by the Scientology organization at 6724, and the white building on the left, with the tower, is the Hollywood First National Building at 6777 (at Highland Avenue).

As it should be, odinthor. ;)


So I take it Toberman Street was named after former Los Angeles mayor James R. Toberman. (shown below)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/wwFSyn.jpg

Here's his brief history.

"Portrait of James R. Toberman, who arrived in Los Angeles in 1865 after escaping from Indians in Texas. President Lincoln had appointed him U.S. Revenue Assessor here, and he held this position for 6 years. He was permitted to be an agent for the Wells Fargo Co. at the same time. Toberman served as Mayor of Los Angeles from 1872-1874, and 1878-1882. During his administration the Chamber of Commerce, the Los Angeles Herald, the Athletic Club and the Southern Branch of the University of California were organized. Toberman cut taxes from $1.60 to $1.00 per $100 assessed value. Main Street was paved and the first electric street lights went into operation."





And here is Toberman's residence on Pearl Street. (later Figueroa)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/T9pIV0.jpg
lapl

"Exterior front view of Mayor James R. Toberman's house on Pearl Street near Orange Street in Los Angeles. A second house is seen next door. Palm trees are planted in the yard."

um. .I guess the library's description means Toberman's house is the one at far left, correct?




Excellent job on pinpointing just -where- exactly the photograph was taken, GaylordWilshire. :worship: Your map made the eBay photograph all the more interesting.

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Mayor James R. Toberman was the uncle of Charles E. Toberman, real estate developer and stenographer who developed landmarks in Hollywood, including the Hollywood Bowl, Grauman's Chinese Theatre, El Capitan Theatre, the Roosevelt Hotel, Grauman's Egyptian Theatre and the Hollywood Masonic Temple. C. E. Toberman, along with H. J. Whitley has been called 'the Father of Hollywood'.

James R. Toberman came to Los Angeles in 1864 when president Abraham Lincoln appointed him U.S. Revenue Assessor. He served six one year terms as Mayor of Los Angeles. He first served between 1872 and 1874 and again from 1878 to 1882. Mayor Toberman switched on the city's first electric streetlights. He helped map out the first street car grid and water and sewer systems.

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I am afraid this lovely home is long gone but I thought you'd all like to see it anyway.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/xTkdzb.jpg
eBay

I need some help with the words between Rev. and House.*



Of course that whole entire area is now industrial buildings. A far cry from the eBay photograph shown above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/7HWsYg.jpg



* I just noticed that the eBay seller took a stab at the writing on the back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Enku6F.jpg
eBay

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Ok, this is a bit morbid.

The seller doesn't say but I'm pretty sure this is a burial VAULT - but why ALL THE SANDBAGS? :shrug:

"DURLOX CONCRETE GRAVE BOX ALHAMBRA CALIFORNIA FUNERAL POST MORTEM RELATED 1920s"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ypVGlw.jpg
eBay

My first thought was there's a decomposing body inside and they're afraid it might explode.
Of course it could also be a simple stress test. ...(but that's not nearly as much fun as an exploding body) :diablo:



Here's the reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5HsoVX.jpg




Here it is turned to avoid neck discomfort.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XWilJJ.jpg


for search purposes:..durlox concrete box box - james irving, alhambra calif. - 1515-f so. sierra vista ave. - ? 122 so. palm ave.
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It looks like the Reverend Charles A Wiesseman moved around the block. Here are the entries I found for him in the CDs. He's only listed at 1411 S Los Angeles in 1900 and 1901:

1899
Wiesseman Charles A., clergyman, r. 1412 Santee.

1900-1901
Wiesseman Chas. A., clergyman, r. 1411 S. Los Angeles.

1901
Wiesseman Rev Charles A, h 1411 S Los Anegels. [sic]

1902
Wiesseman Rev Charles A, h 1335 S Los Angeles.


BTW There's no sign of the house at 1411 S. Los Angeles either.

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Thanks, Hoss! :)

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Just for fun, my notebook's notes on Toberman:

Toberman, James R. ca. 1836, born in Virginia; 1864, arrived in L.A. from Texas as Revenue Assessor, position held until ca. 1870; 1868, partner in Hellman, Temple, & Company; also, simultaneously for some period, was an agent not for Wells, Fargo & Company but for the Union Express Company; 1870, present in L.A. as a city councilman with savings of $5,000 and real estate valued at $10,000; September, 1870, sold his share in the bank to I.W. Hellman; 1872, residing on Pico St.; 1872, elected Mayor, serving until 1874; 1878-1882, again Mayor; January 26, 1911, died; “The death of J.R. Toberman, a former Mayor of Los Angeles, a few months ago, removed from our midst a fellow-citizen of sterling manners and great affability. I first met him on the old steamer Orizaba, in February, 1867, on his way to Los Angeles as Collector of Internal Revenue, which position he held for a number of years. Some of the newspapers hereabouts referred to him as the agent of Wells-Fargo Company, which was a mistake; but after leaving the government service, in 1868, he took the agency of an opposition express company called the Union, which did not last long, however, and then he went out on the Hancock survey and bought a thirty-five-acre lot for $100 per acre, much of which is where Tenth and Eleventh, Georgia and Alvarado streets are now a part. He was elected Mayor in 1872 and re-elected twice, and made a good officer. He was the last resident in Los Angeles to wear a silk hat daily, which he gave up only four years ago [ca. 1907]” Los Angeles Times, 4/9/1911.

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Thanks, odinthor :),...but when did he start his chocolate company?


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Recalling a tragedy that occurred here in the city just over 100 years ago.....


....from the March 16, 1923 edition of a Madison WI. newspaper, often referred to as "America's Finest News Source".....



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Are you sure that didn't happen on April 1st:D

I just looked up "Safety Last" on Wikipedia and IMDB....

They both show the U.S. release date as.....wait for it....April 1, 1923.

I had read an article this past week in the Los Angeles Times (the Essential California section) about Harold Lloyd and Safety Last, talking about it's 100th Anniversary, but I don't recall reading this! [I went back and looked and it did indeed mention that.]

Lloyd's Granddaughter, Suzanne Lloyd, runs Harold Lloyd Entertainment and a screening of it in Santa Ana was held this weekend marking the anniversary.

From the article: It [Safety Last] received almost universal praise at the time — Variety wrote, “It will make all of the nation laugh,” while the New York Times stated, “There will be roars of rollicking laughter.” Really, the only major hater was... this paper. [Meaning the Los Angeles Times.]

It is a breathless thrill picture, perfectly made, as [Lloyd’s] pictures always are,” our reviewer wrote, “but lacking the spark of originality he usually endows his work with.”

Suzanne Lloyd also travels around the Los Angeles area showing Lloyd films in schools where, she says, the students are very receptive. She loves to see new audiences connect with her grandfather, who she argues “goes really well” with modern audiences. “He looks like someone off the street,” she said. “He’d have an iPad and cellphone hanging off of him. He could be your best friend, he could be your cousin.”

“The kids go, ‘He’s like Harry Potter’s older brother.’ Another time, the kids said, ‘Well, we just love how he texts us.’ They liken the title cards to texting.”
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:tup: I think that's great, likening the title cards to texting. What a way to get younger folks to watch a silent film!

Ironically, there was a tragedy associated with the promotion of "Safety Last".....this from filmsite.org.....


"Few people know that a real-life, tragic publicity stunt ahead of the film's debut helped to fuel the popularity of Safety Last (1923) that was released on April 1, 1923. The film's production company Pathe Exchange, hired (for $100 dollars) a real-life 32 year-old 'Human Fly' or steeplejack named Harry F. Young to perform a publicity stunt for Lloyd's new film. With the phrase 'SAFETY LAST' on the back of his shirt, Young began to climb the side of the 10-story Hotel Martinique (on Broadway at 32nd St. in NYC) at 12 noon, on a cold March 6, 1923. Thousands watched from Greeley Square Park, across from Gimbel's Dept. Store, as he was about to reach the top but slipped and fell to his death on the sidewalk below. He died shortly later after being taken to Bellevue Hospital.

In the wake of his death in April 1923, the NY city council outlawed "street exhibitions of a foolhardy character in climbing the outer walls of buildings by human beings." The law sought to "prevent performance in which human life is needlessly imperiled to satisfy either...an insane desire for vainglory or money on the part of those directing or executing that sort of exhibition."

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Here's an excellent look at a Black & White Cab that roamed the street of Los Angeles in 1930.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DbWr9i.jpg
Recently listed on eBay



The reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/M6iFD0.jpg

The exact date but no company address. :shrug:

Call MAdison 1311.
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Unless it slipped my mind I didn't know the Shriners owned their own apartment building in Los Angeles.

Take a gander at this amazing snapshot!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Zh1RLO.jpg
Recently listed on eBay

I imagine the Shrine Arms was located near the Shrine Auditorium. (merely a guess)





The three men below are obviously posing for the photograph so I bet they were roomies. (or merely visitors from the same chapter)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/M1SFV6.jpg

I bet they had a good time in Los Angeles.

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The Shrine Arms was at 660 W Jefferson Boulevard, just across the road from the Shrine Auditorium.

That has to be Fiesta Park, e_r. Please note the writing on the wall at the right center edge, "CROSSING OVER TRA"

Here's a photo from the February 6, 1910, Los Angeles Herald showing a tent being set up at Fiesta Park for the LA Auto Show.
We can see the whole message on the wall, which appears to say CROSSING OVER TRACK POSITIVELY PROHIBITED.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._show_prep.jpg

California Digital Newspaper Collection at UC Riverside


Here's Fiesta Park after the tent got set up, looking northish:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...Park_photo.jpg

February 13, 1910, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC/UCR

The Black & White cab seems to belong to the Yellow Cab Co. That was on the corner of 3rd and Lucas, although the address was listed then as 1422 or 1408 Crown Hill Avenue. Around the time of the photo above, their phone number seems to have changed from DUnkirk 5050 to MAdison 1234. Maybe the MAdison 1311 number was a separate division.

Here are pictures from previous posts. BTW I think gsjansen's now picture shows the wrong corner.

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Excellent sleuthing Flyingwedge and HossC. you're the best

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Here's a fun snapshot I happened upon on eBay.

"March, 1944 Photograph-Los Angeles 6 Beautiful Women- in Car Trunk."...It says the ladies are employees of the Security Bank.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/KJY3qg.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134522558335?eBay

Does the corner building across across the street look familiar anyone? (of course they could be in a town other than Los Angeles)




I just found several additional snapshots of these same women that I'll post soon.
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As promised. :)


"1944 Photograph-L.A. Beach 4 Beautiful Women-Frolicking"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/EAd68j.jpg
eBay




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qBoCty.jpg


Venice Beach?

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And here's one more for this afternoon.



"1944 Photograph-L.A. Beach 4 Beautiful Women-Fun Affectionate Girls"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/WmgMRJ.jpg
eBay

The corner grocery store appears to have an Egyptian theme. (with apartments upstairs)



Help me, minions! :whip:

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Venice Beach between Breeze Avenue and Wavecrest Avenue.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...niceBeach1.jpg
GSV

Those are women's names you don't hear anymore...Dot, Verna(?), Marge, Gladys. I was picturing naming a little baby, Gladys.

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Since Dot, Verna, Marge and Glady led us to Vencie Beach here's a couple of photographs I recently found on eBay of the little Zephyr train that traversed the pier.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/A9YX1e.jpg
eBay The seller is asking $199 dollars for the two photos. :stunned:



And here's the back.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/owfMlb.jpg

"Cute, isn't it?"...Venice Pier...1945





Note the large horns situated at the front of the train.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Jl27cL.jpg
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Here's an interesting photograph of a damaged streetcar.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/TMVTkX.jpg
eBay

note the broken window inside the car.

I think there are enough clues to figure out the location.


Good luck, noirishers!
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https://i.postimg.cc/QCpbV6tT/Lucey-CD-1915.jpg
City Directory, 1915

Or

https://i.postimg.cc/c1YTDJmL/Lucey-Her-1917-2-23.jpg
LA Herald, 2/23/1917

So . . . which is it? The 6th St. location or the 7th St. location? The G.H. Turner Co. is also in the photo:

https://i.postimg.cc/65XcFNjL/Lucey-LAT-1915-9-26.jpg
LA Times, 9/26/1916

We're at 7th and Alameda.

As to Mr. Lucey:

https://i.postimg.cc/GhxKCS60/Lucey-LAT-1924-1-14.jpg
LA Times, 1/14/1924

Is that a gasometer in the upper right corner of the damaged streetcar photo above?

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Thanks so much for the information on the Lucey Manufacturing Corp., odinthor. I appreciate it. :)

And yes, Martin P, I do believe that's the corner of a gas-o-meter.


Here's an ad I found in the 1924 city directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/aGsjV1.jpg
LAPL

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Have we seen this photograph on NLA?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9xBMUr.jpg
eBay

I ask because the photograph is a 'licensed' reprint. (whatever that is)


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A mini-tressle located somewhere in Santa Monica.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/lKytm8.jpg
Currently listed on eBay




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/CaWoKs.jpg


For search purposes:

Pacific Electric Railway
No. 1603
Santa Monica
August 1935

Neg. of V.C. A x t

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We haven't seen much on the Bel Air Hotel on NLA no doubt because it was known for its seclusion. Earlier today I happened upon a couple of slides taken back in 1967.

It appears that someone clandestinely snapped photographs of a couple of famous guests enjoying lunch or drinks on the patio.

I have an inkling who they may be but I thought it would be fun to hear who you noirishers think they are. :)

Here goes!

Slide #1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/vDTsOE.jpg
eBay


Slide #2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VzWv0i.jpg
eBay



A closer look.

Slide #1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/GddgEf.jpg
eBay

Fill in the blanks....______...______






Slide #2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/3aIVf8.jpg
eBay

Fill in the blanks....______..._______


Good luck!

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And while I'm at it. . here is the pool area at the Bel Air Hotel taken by the same amateur photographer. (also in 1967)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Evx2TP.jpg
eBay

As far as I can tell there's no one famous in this photograph.

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I located some information on the Wilshire Baptist Church.

Somewhat surprisingly the address of the Wilshire Baptist Church is 301 N. Oxford. (where it meets Beverly Blvd.)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/BidI3q.jpg
LAPL



This is the view along Beverly Blvd.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/6Xz1TO.jpg

Hmm. .could that be the same sign (structure, at least) that appears in the old eBay photograph. :shrug: The dimensions are the same.



Aerial view.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/vxFYoF.jpg

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https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


I'm trying to locate this one....

The 2nd place designation with the arrow left appears to be "Pasadena".....undated but likely about 1950....photo is from Pinterest.

Jack Benny and Lana Turner

For richkay...

Triangulating the high-tension lines crossing the boulevard with the distances to Pasadena (Colorado & Fair Oaks) at nine miles and to Pomona at 19 miles, I think we're looking northeasterly across the intersection of Garvey Ave. and San Gabriel Blvd. in what is now Rosemead but was unincorporated South San Gabriel back in the day.

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That's exactly who I thought it was, RudyJK....Thanks for playing my little game. :) I appreciate it.





I was somewhat surprised the patio of the Bel Air Hotel was occasionally used as a film location. (see below)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/TSixPA.jpg

The problem is. .the name of the movie isn't included in the information :( at the dorchestercollection website....(they probably don't even know)

I believe the woman is either Jane Greer or Eleanor Parker....

I don't recognize the man at all.


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Great minds... :yes:

Let's see if there are other guesses!

I think it is Jane Greer and Dennis O'Keefe in 'The Company She Keeps' from 1951. Also starred Lizabeth Scott.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Company_She_Keeps

Taken from the roof of Bud's Liquors? Aerials do show an appropriately shaped building where the Standard station is.

We also see the sign on the Garvey Theater here.