I'm simply repeating what others have said but this is some exciting stuff. Thanks for the great pictures as well as the explanation of the supply chain hold-up and why the facade was started on the 10th floor. The close-up details of the facade being installed definitely gets my attention. I will be checking this thread a lot more oftern. And yes, who in Chicago doesn't like a dark building?!?! This is going to be such a great addition to the city along with 1000M. Love seeing both taking shape at the same time as well as the finish product looking better than the renderings which is often not the case.
Again, thanks for all the great pictures. Much appreciated!! :worship: |
This is gonna be the Sears Tower of the West Loop
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How much more do this one have to go?
It's really sprouted into my RN balcony view! I think it will ultimately be blocked by the Cassidy Tire highrise though, but I'll enjoy it for the time being haha. |
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NYC is still rocking the steel framework. Chicago? Not so much. |
900 Randolph is an actual highrise tower, and it's residential - there are valid reasons to use concrete. And they couldn't do an exposed steel frame if they wanted to, it would fail the energy code. In our climate, the building skin always has to be separate from the structural frame with an insulation layer between.
1020 Randolph is a little 5-story midrise, and it's office. The use of concrete is purely an aesthetic choice so they could do mushroom columns with drop caps and make it look like an old warehouse inside: https://1020wrandolph.com/ |
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NYC may not get the amount of cold days that Chicago gets but it gets plenty cold in January just the same. Just saying. It's a higher priced city and they are still jamming with steel. Because they can. For how much longer will be determined. |
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Over the last handful of years, we just saw 5 new office towers over 700' go up that were all steel frame. The general rule for highrises in Chicago these days is: - office towers: steel frame (with concrete core) - residential/hotel/mixed-use towers: concrete frame There are of course a few exceptions both ways, but that's how the VAST majority of towers have shaken out here for the past 3 decades now. it is absolutely nothing new. Quote:
You do realize that the exterior cladding on Sears, Hancock and every single other steel frame skyscraper in the city is "fake ass shit" too, right? Structural steel has to be fire protected by code (for very good reason). you can never just leave it exposed as an exterior finish material. From your recent commentary in this thread, you don't seem particularly well-versed in the basics of skyscraper engineering/design/construction. |
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900 Randolph is posing. End of story. All of Hanncocks revolutionary cross bracing is 'fake' because it has a skin on it? Yea, 900 Randolph. Same thing. |
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but it's an extremely poor point of comparison. it's not a skyscraper and it was built 125 years ago. modern steel frame skyscrapers never have their structural steel exposed. the structural steel is first fire-proofed and then clad in any number of exterior finish materials (stainless/corten steel, aluminum, stone, precast concrete, etc.), aka "fake ass shit" according to you. Quote:
the structural steel cross-bracing on hancock is buried behind fire-proofing and its annondized aluminum facade panels. or "fake ass shit" as you so eloquently put it. you, nor i, nor anyone under the age of 50 has ever seen the actual steel structural cross-bracing members themselves. Quote:
in reality, the only thing "posing" in this discussion here is you. |
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900 Randolph is imposing a look of structural steel where no structural steel exists. It is disingenuous at best. It also is a sure thing to age poorly.
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The Empire State Building is imposing a look of stone masonry construction where no structural stone exists. It is disingenuous at best. It also is a sure thing to age poorly.
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That is all. Moving on. |
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Alright. We can disagree on this subject. No offense. |
^ Well, your argument appears to boil down to this:
Steel frame highrise clad with brick = ok Steel frame highrise clad with stone = ok Steel frame highrise clad with precast = ok Steel frame highrise clad with terra cotta = ok Steel frame highrise clad with metal = ok Concrete frame highrise clad with brick = ok Concrete frame highrise clad with stone = ok Concrete frame highrise clad with precast = ok Concrete frame highrise clad with terra cotta = ok Concrete frame highrise clad with metal = "fake ass shit!!!" |
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