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westcork Jun 1, 2013 3:49 AM

LA Traffic Deaths: "Report to the People" 1946 Los Angeles Police Department

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0Ab...endscreen&NR=1
Jeff Quitney Youtube

CityBoyDoug Jun 1, 2013 4:33 AM

Pontoon times...
 
Great photos ER..!!! The area today is a wasteland of bland warehouses.

The old Pontoon Bridge was a real pain actually. Every time even a little tugboat needed to transit the channel, the traffic had to stop to let it pass. The two floating sections would slowly back under the projecting roadway. All of this happened to the tune of bells, whistles and sirens. The traffic would back up for blocks. This was not a speedy process.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc6c4995e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps098fe28e.jpg

mdiederi Jun 1, 2013 4:45 AM

Similar to pulling the space shuttle through town last year. Spruce Goose on the way to Wilmington.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps29df898d.jpg
theaviationzone.com

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps47c30e8d.jpg
orgs-evolution-knowledge.net

http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content...SE-Smaller.jpg
http://atomictoasters.com

CityBoyDoug Jun 1, 2013 5:04 AM

Japanese on Terminal Island
 
During WW II 400 Japanese men who lived on Terminal Island were rounded up and sent to Relocation Camps. Most of them were tuna fishermen.

Here is their T.I. main street in the 1930s. Also, seen below is the Shinto Temple on Terminal Island in the 1920s.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psdc7cd398.jpg
LAPL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps70357536.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2013 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6149151)
Great photos of Terminal Island ER..!!! The area today is a wasteland of bland warehouses.

Thanks CBD, but the Terminal Market is just south of downtown at E. 7th to 8th Street & S. Central Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/5065/aab8thredo.jpg
google area


aerial 1930s
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/5372/a...rialpluswa.jpg
ocd/mn



Contemporary view, looking north along S. Central Ave. just above E. 8th Street
http://imageshack.us/a/img443/5883/a...rialtwoe2l.jpg


and south. -truly impressive!
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/3944/a...rialtwoent.jpg
gsv



view inside the market.
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/2540/aab8thspc.jpg
postcard/ebay

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mdiederi Jun 1, 2013 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6149198)
view inside the market.
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/2540/aab8thspc.jpg
postcard/ebay

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I looked on the google maps view real close from above and it looks like there is still some sort of open-air produce market action still going on in that same location.

Also found this old photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps0180c564.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2012/05...rminal-market/
1927: A crowded Market Court at the Los Angeles Union Terminal Market, a wholesale produce market built by Union Pacific Railroad in 1918.


Quote:

http://framework.latimes.com/2012/05...rminal-market/
Los Angeles Union Terminal Market
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:36 a.m. | May 1, 2012


The original Los Angeles Times caption published on July 31, 1927, reports:

A familiar sight at the Los Angeles Union Terminal, the largest produce market in the West. According to the Bureau of Agricultural Economics, Los Angeles is the fourth largest fruit and vegetable consuming center in the United States.

This photo was published on the Los Angeles Sunday Times Farm and Orchard Magazine front page.

A story in the Aug. 9, 1925, Times Farm and Orchard Magazine explained that the Los Angeles Union Terminal Market “has room for 1000 tenants and the market court, 300 x 1200 feet in dimension, will accommodate about 600 trucks.”

mdiederi Jun 1, 2013 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6149151)

How did they open the bridge for ships to pass? (That photo is photoshopped) Did they just pull the middle sections off to the side with tug boats or something?

Before the pontoon bridge was installed there was the bascule or "jackknife" train bridge to Terminal Island, built in 1908 (photo circa 1910), which was removed in the 1930s after the railroad stopped using it. Not sure how much time elapsed between the removal of this bridge and the installation of the pontoon bridge. Before this bridge, the very first bridge from Long Beach to Terminal Island was a 19th century single-track train bridge on a wooden trestle built by the Salt Lake Railway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps792e426b.jpg
http://portoflongbeach.blogspot.com/...nd-part-1.html

The railroad didn't need the Jackknife bridge anymore because of the new Badger Avenue Bridge to the north, seen here in the 1920s before it was replaced by the Henry Ford Bridge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps9adc33f8.jpg
http://portoflongbeach.blogspot.com/...nd-part-2.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6148906)
There was a North-South road connection to T.I. that utilized the railroad drawbridge.
This is the Northside lift bridge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse912a276.jpg

That's actually two separate bridges right next to each other, the earlier Henry Ford train lift bridge that replaced the Badger Avenue Bridge, and the slightly newer Commodore Schuyler F. Helm lift bridge which carries State Route 47 and the southern end of the 103 Terminal Island Freeway. I've heard rumors that the Terminal Island Freeway north of there is apparently being removed now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psd44bee55.jpg
google maps

ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2013 4:59 PM

originally posted by mdiederi
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3677/aa...rketsspmde.jpg
latimes_framework



Yesterday while going through Terminal Market photographs I noticed this clock for the first time.

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/5260/aab8thclockuscd.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/72174/rec/4


detail -and it's an amazing clock.
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/2780/aab8thclock2.jpg



close-up: I'm still trying to make out the lettering.
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/8894/aa...ck2adetail.jpg



It's also visible in this aerial from the 1930s.
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1715/aab8thclockaerial.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/90051/rec/2



I was delighted with the discovery because I've often wondered why there was a Clock Street running through the market.

http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8158/aa...ockaerial2.jpg
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl


Sadly, the actual clock seems to be missing. :(

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/8337/a...ockstreet2.jpg
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

I'm hoping it was moved somewhere, and not destroyed.
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KevinW Jun 1, 2013 6:49 PM

Terminal Market Clock
 
Found this in a 1919 issue of Popular Mechanics:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7294/8...5c7f26b3_o.png
Popular Mechanics Magazine
Jan 1919

WS1911 Jun 1, 2013 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6149490)
originally posted by mdiederi
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3677/aa...rketsspmde.jpg
latimes_framework


Yesterday while going through Terminal Market photographs I noticed this clock for the first time.

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/5260/aab8thclockuscd.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/72174/rec/4


detail -and it's an amazing clock.
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/2780/aab8thclock2.jpg


close-up: I'm still trying to make out the lettering.
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/8894/aa...ck2adetail.jpg


It's also visible in this aerial from the 1930s.
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1715/aab8thclockaerial.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/90051/rec/2

This video from the mid 1930s shows a similar clock (if not the same) suspended between two buildings. I wonder if it isn't the same clock? Click here.

Video source http://www.discovernikkei.org
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Wenders Jun 1, 2013 8:52 PM

"Crowded Terminal Market" -images make me think of Thieves Highway movie.

Before C. Manson was sent to do his time in prison, he was held at a jail in Terminal Island. Anybody know where that jail was exactly?

tovangar2 Jun 1, 2013 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wenders (Post 6149693)
"Crowded Terminal Market" -images make me think of Thieves Highway movie.

Before C. Manson was sent to do his time in prison, he was held at a jail in Terminal Island. Anybody know where that jail was exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...erminal_Island
http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/trm/


Capone was held there too.

-and-

http://www.mysanpedro.org/2012/01/sa...rt-of-los.html

mdiederi Jun 1, 2013 9:44 PM

EDIT: Looks like tovangar2 and I posted almost the same info about Manson at the exact same minute. lol ! I like that video on your mysanpedro link! http://vimeo.com/25152402

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wenders (Post 6149693)
Before C. Manson was sent to do his time in prison, he was held at a jail in Terminal Island. Anybody know where that jail was exactly?

http://goo.gl/maps/qsvSc
Charles Manson was held at the Federal Corrections Institution, Terminal Island, at 1299 S Seaside Ave on Reservation Point (part of San Pedro), from 1956 to 1958 for car theft and check fraud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...ior_to_1982.29

Mr.Swink Jun 1, 2013 9:50 PM

Los Angeles Cold Storage still here.
 
Here is the Los Angeles Cold Storage building in east downtown on 4th street. And the second image is a detail from I believe that 1909 hand drawn map of Los Angeles. Notice the shapes of the windows and the number of floors is the same in the gsv photo and on the map. Old Los Angeles businesses and buildings live on!

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...at121757AM.png[/URL]
GSV

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...at122132AM.png[/URL]
1909 Map

Wenders Jun 1, 2013 10:22 PM

Thank you, Tovangar2 and Mdiederi.

ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 6149586)
Found this in a 1919 issue of Popular Mechanics:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7294/8...5c7f26b3_o.png
Popular Mechanics Magazine
Jan 1919

This is a great find KevinW. I had no idea the supporting column was so elaborate, especially for an open-air market.
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tovangar2 Jun 1, 2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 6149746)
EDIT: I like that video on your mysanpedro link! http://vimeo.com/25152402

No doubt about it, San Pedro sure had its share of noir :)

ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6149637)
This video from the mid 1930s shows a similar clock (if not the same) suspended between two buildings. I wonder if it isn't the same clock? Click here.

Video source http://www.discovernikkei.org
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Thanks for the link WS1911. I believe this is the same clock!

http://imageshack.us/a/img441/3664/aab8thclockv1b.jpg
http://www.discovernikkei.org/en/nik...rs=&published=


http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3644/a...lockvidoe1.jpg
http://www.discovernikkei.org/en/nik...rs=&published=


I guess they got rid of the clock's support column when they built the canopies over the seller's stalls.

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WS1911 Jun 1, 2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6149820)
At first I thought this was the Little Tokyo section of Los Angeles.*, and both markets had similar clocks by the same clock-maker?

http://imageshack.us/a/img441/3664/aab8thclockv1b.jpg
http://www.discovernikkei.org/en/nik...rs=&published=


http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3644/a...lockvidoe1.jpg
http://www.discovernikkei.org/en/nik...rs=&published=
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* I just located the description of the video. It says this is the market on 7th Street.
(the north end of Terminal Market is on E. 7th St.)


Thanks, ER. I was just going to correct my post when I saw you'd done that for me! :) The clocks do look similar.
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ethereal_reality Jun 2, 2013 12:50 AM

I really like the lettering in this ad, especially the stylized H.

Los Angeles Herald, 1890
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/1231/a...891clearer.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/

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