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summersm343 Jul 21, 2015 1:05 AM

PHILADELPHIA | Hyatt Centric | 179 FT | 13 FLOORS
 
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Title: Hyatt Centric
Project: Hotel, Retail
Architect: DAS Architects
Developer: Chancellor Hotels Associates, Clemens Construction Co., Hudson Hotels
Location: 17th and Chancellor St. Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Rittenhouse Square
District: Center City
Floors: 13 floors
Height: 179 FT

Quote:

A proposal to construct a new $125 million boutique hotel at 17th and Chancellor streets in Philadelphia cleared a hurdle when the Center City Residents Association decided not to oppose the project.

A vote on the mixed-use development was taken at the organization's meeting Tuesday night and helps clear the way for it to move forward. The group and the developer had worked out several issues including lighting and streetscaping.

The hotel would stand 12 stories and have 300 rooms. It will be constructed on a site where a four-story parking garage now stands. Little Pete's diner was a long-standing tenant on the retail portion of the parking structure.

Called the Hudson, the hotel would have a rooftop restaurant, underground parking and retail space.
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-nod-from.html
http://www.dasarchitects.com/hudson.html
http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20-%20CDR.pdf

TechTalkGuy Jul 21, 2015 2:40 PM

It's an interesting proposal, but I have one concern that go with all "outdoor" venues.
How to control the issue of "smoking" when you have to protect the rights of "non-smokers".

As a non-smoker, I feel very restricted with my dining options.

As a tower in an of itself, it's too short to be visible to the skyline and will be seen as a gap from greater distances.

On the street level, the retail element will be a welcome amenity that is pretty common with responsible developers.

From the illustration provided, the fascade leaves much to be desired. :shrug:
It looks old and outdated as is.

Londonee Jul 21, 2015 3:52 PM

As someone who has lived off 17th Street for over 5 years now, and in fear of sounding like a NIMBY, the taxi queues, pax loading/unloading, convention center bus pick up serving the half a dozen or so hotels along this stretch make the route almost unnavigable about 75% of the day.

chris08876 Jul 21, 2015 5:10 PM

What it will replace: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9493...8i6656!6m1!1e1

PHL10 Jul 21, 2015 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Londonee (Post 7102520)
As someone who has lived off 17th Street for over 5 years now, and in fear of sounding like a NIMBY, the taxi queues, pax loading/unloading, convention center bus pick up serving the half a dozen or so hotels along this stretch make the route almost unnavigable about 75% of the day.

Exactly. I usually opt for 19th due to the hotels. First the Westin on the left and then the Sofitel on the right and then the Latham on the left and then the Warwick on the right. The Hudson will mess up the alternating pattern!

summersm343 Jul 21, 2015 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 7102675)
Exactly. I usually opt for 19th due to the hotels. First the Westin on the left and then the Sofitel on the right and then the Latham on the left and then the Warwick on the right. The Hudson will mess up the alternating pattern!

Hotel Palomar now across from the Sofitel already messed up the alternating pattern :)

Philly-Drew Jul 22, 2015 1:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7102641)

Replacing the ugly-as-shit parking garage, with Little Pete's on the bottom? That's more than a fair trade IMHO. Of course I don't live in that neighborhood, and traffic will be impacted, but at parking garage is utterly awful looking.

PHL10 Jul 22, 2015 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7102693)
Hotel Palomar now across from the Sofitel already messed up the alternating pattern :)

I forgot about that! Despite driving and walking 17th Street often, I never really thought about the sheer number of hotels on that stretch until Londonee brought it up. It's pretty impressive.

Londonee Jul 22, 2015 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 7103692)
I forgot about that! Despite driving and walking 17th Street often, I never really thought about the sheer number of hotels on that stretch until Londonee brought it up. It's pretty impressive.

Yeah, Club Quarters is at 17th and Chestnut and Boutique Rittenhouse 1715 are basically on that stretch as well.

Philly Fan Jul 22, 2015 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Londonee (Post 7103725)
Yeah, Club Quarters is at 17th and Chestnut and Boutique Rittenhouse 1715 are basically on that stretch as well.

Time to start calling this "Hotel Row." :rolleyes:

Philebrity Jul 22, 2015 6:19 PM

Ain't happening this year.

#SAVELITTLEPETES

summersm343 Jul 22, 2015 8:28 PM

We're not preserving a shitty parking garage for a restaurant when said restaurant can easily find another location in Center City.

#demolishthatshitnow

chris08876 Jul 22, 2015 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly-Drew (Post 7103185)
Replacing the ugly-as-shit parking garage, with Little Pete's on the bottom? That's more than a fair trade IMHO. Of course I don't live in that neighborhood, and traffic will be impacted, but at parking garage is utterly awful looking.

I agree. Although I never ate at Little Pete's, but it looks like a good place with great food. At least I think...

One thing I've noticed in Center City is that parking is really a hassle, and its expensive too. Although there's been times I go on the weekend and its free. Usually, I park right near Cherry Street. In terms of traffic, I never really noticed it being super bad in that area, and this being on a weekday. But it could just be luck I guess.

volguus zildrohar Jul 22, 2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 7102427)
It's an interesting proposal, but I have one concern that go with all "outdoor" venues.
How to control the issue of "smoking" when you have to protect the rights of "non-smokers".

As a non-smoker, I feel very restricted with my dining options.

What are you talking about? Smoking is banned pretty much everywhere except ones imagination in this city anymore. I know what I'm talking about - I smoke.

Outdoor venues are still covered under the ban so...what do you mean?

summersm343 Sep 10, 2015 1:09 AM

Public Hearing Scheduled for Hudson Hotel Zoning


Quote:

City Council’s Rules Committee will hold a public hearing on Wednesday, September 30, at 10:00 a.m., on Bill #140858, which would create a zoning change that would enable the construction of the proposed $125 million Hudson Hotel at 17th and Chancellor Streets.

The hotel will contain 300 rooms and 40 executive suites and is being designed by DAS Architects. The penthouse floor will house an exclusive dining venue with panoramic city views, and two stories of luxury retail shops are planned along with underground parking.

In February, the Center City Residents Association (CCRA) voted to not oppose the construction.
http://www.centercityphila.org/press...news090915.php

Jawnadelphia Sep 23, 2015 1:16 PM

Hudson Hotel looks to be moving forward:

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...vCpgS642Vhi.99

Philly Fan Sep 30, 2015 5:13 PM

Developers change hotel brand at Little Pete's near Rittenhouse Square

Quote:

The group behind a hotel proposal at the Little Pete's restaurant site has ceased efforts to brand the project as a Philadelphia sibling to New York's trendy Hudson Hotel and will develop the property as an upscale Hyatt instead.

Carol Horne Penn, project director for Chancellor Hotel Associates, said in written testimony to City Council members Wednesday that the project near Rittenhouse Square would be built under the banner of Hyatt's boutique Centric brand.

summersm343 Sep 30, 2015 5:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly Fan (Post 7182379)

Nice, nice! As long as it is still moving forward. I will change the title of the thread to Hyatt Centric. This is a really great new brand and I'm glad Philly will be getting one. This could open opportunity down the road for a Hudson Hotel to still open elsewhere in the city if SLS does well and the two companies merge.

Knight Hospitaller Sep 30, 2015 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly Fan (Post 7182379)

Looks like the name of the thread will have to be changed to "Hyatt Centric"

summersm343 Sep 30, 2015 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 7182423)
Looks like the name of the thread will have to be changed to "Hyatt Centric"

Way ahead of you :tup:

Philly Fan Sep 30, 2015 6:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7182427)
Way ahead of you :tup:

As always. :worship:

Knight Hospitaller Sep 30, 2015 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7182427)
Way ahead of you :tup:

Cool. I never liked the Hudson name anyway. Too New Yorkish.

summersm343 Sep 30, 2015 7:00 PM

More from the Philadelphia Business Journal

Looks like the CCRA and City Council approve of the development.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...hyatt-for.html

summersm343 Sep 30, 2015 8:10 PM

Quote:

Developer of Little Pete's hotel is working to find a new location for the diner, according to one of their representatives
http://www.phillymag.com/property/20...delphia-hotel/

shakman Sep 30, 2015 11:58 PM

Yes Yes Yes. I support #demolishthatshitnow.

summersm343 Oct 1, 2015 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakman (Post 7182874)
Yes Yes Yes. I support #demolishthatshitnow.

Hahahaha. Let's get #demolishthatshitnow trending

summersm343 Oct 8, 2015 7:52 PM

17th and Chancellor parking garage/Little Pete's site rezoned to make way for hotel

Quote:

Also on Thursday, City Council adopted a bill rezoning the site of Little Pete’s diner in Center City. Clemens Construction Company is working on a plan that would see the diner demolished and replaced with a luxury 12-story hotel. Council adopted the bill unanimously. Nobody testified against it or in favor of it.
http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/...-philly-casino

summersm343 Nov 16, 2015 5:53 PM

Little Pete’s Is Looking to Relocate

Obviously due to the new development coming.

http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/...tion-flyer.jpg

http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/201...g-to-relocate/

TechTalkGuy Nov 16, 2015 10:21 PM

:goodpost: I'm getting hungry just looking at that place!

Sgalla04 Nov 17, 2015 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 7102675)
Exactly. I usually opt for 19th due to the hotels. First the Westin on the left and then the Sofitel on the right and then the Latham on the left and then the Warwick on the right. The Hudson will mess up the alternating pattern!

The Lantham closed this week. It's turning into apartments. So one hotel gone and another to replace it on 17th St. I live above the Nordstrom Rack on 17th St and the one thing about the hotels that are annoying are hearing the constant whistling for cabs that pierce through the walls and windows all day. Other than that, the foot traffic at street level at least keeps the city lively around that area.

Philly Kid Feb 1, 2016 4:53 PM

http://philly.curbed.com/archives/20...t-definite.php

According to Curbed this project may be off for now.

jsbrook Feb 1, 2016 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly Kid (Post 7320567)
http://philly.curbed.com/archives/20...t-definite.php

According to Curbed this project may be off for now.

Hmm...

Well...there are other garages I'd rather see develop first. I'd love to see the one at 16th and Samson across from Rumor fall next. A Hyatt brand hotel there would be GREAT.

McBane Feb 1, 2016 7:50 PM

That would be disappointing. However, here are two thoughts that are keeping me from getting too worked up over this.

1) This wasn't the most amazing proposal put forth. It wasn't particularly tall. And yes, the current garage is ugly, but it's still lined with active ground floor usage, i.e., it's not a totally wasteful lot in its current form.

2) Even if this does fall through, at least it's obvious that the owner has an interest in redeveloping this garage. Which is more than you can say about many of the other parking lot and garage owners who are all to happy to sit back and take the easy money. The first fall back is find another hotel operator. If that doesn't work, the owner can try apartments, condos, or office. The location is too good for just a garage and fortunately the owner is aware of this.

summersm343 Sep 3, 2016 2:29 AM

Moving forward? Zoning Permit posted on site

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ab&oe=58389E21

http://philly.eater.com/2016/9/2/127...t-diner-philly

summersm343 Sep 6, 2016 9:15 PM

Hyatt Centric

Quote:

As of January 2016, this parking garage with Little Pete's diner was slated to become a Hyatt Centric with 310 guest rooms and 40 executive suites. In the following months, we were told that plans fell through, until recently when our friends at Eater Philly reported that a new zoning permit was posted for a hotel once again. Little Pete's owner says they won't know until October whether they have to close up shop and move.
http://philly.curbed.com/maps/philadelphia-hotels-map

summersm343 Sep 16, 2016 12:55 AM

New Center City Hyatt Is One Approval Away From Construction

Quote:

Two years after it was initially rumored, a new Hyatt hotel is one step away from being fully approved for construction.

The new property, to be developed by New York-based Hudson Hotels, will be branded as a Hyatt Centric and contain 300-plus rooms in its 12 stories. The hotel would go up in place of diner Little Pete's, a local institution for 37 years, and an adjacent parking garage. A zoning application is awaiting final approval and is expected to get it, according to Eater Philly.

The parcel, at 17th and Chancellor streets, is one of the last in the area not zoned for serious height. The owners of Little Pete's expect to be forced to vacate in summer 2017, and plan to seek another Center City location.
https://www.bisnow.com/philadelphia/news/hotel/center-city-hyatt-close-to-construction-64857?be={{email}}&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=thu-08-sep-2016-000000-0500_philadelphia-re

Knight Hospitaller Sep 21, 2016 6:43 PM

Appears to be moving forward: http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...se-Square.html

summersm343 Sep 22, 2016 12:28 AM

Hyatt Centric hotel plan at Little Pete's site to move forward

Quote:

The developers of the proposed Hyatt Centric hotel at the current site of Little Pete's restaurant near Rittenhouse Square are moving forward with their project, with plans to present the development next month to the city's design-review board.

Chancellor Hotel Associates' latest plan for the project at 17th and Chancellor Streets is scheduled for a Civic Design Review hearing on Oct. 4, according to an agenda posted to the board's website Wednesday.

Chancellor said in October that the 309-guest-room hotel would be developed under Hyatt's boutique Centric flag after initially planning to build it as a Hudson Hotel-branded property. Changes to the design for the 13-story project since its most recent iterations include the removal of a planned rooftop restaurant, according to the plans.

The hotel would displace a parking structure that currently accommodates Little Pete's on its ground floor.

Pete's owner Pete Koutroubas​ said in an interview that expects to get official notification in October that he has nine months to leave, per terms of his lease.

He said he is looking in the Rittenhouse Square area for a new location, but may not be able to find something affordable.
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...e.html?photo_2

summersm343 Sep 22, 2016 1:13 AM

Images from CDR Submission

Looks great! Love the north facing facade. Build it now!!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1b&oe=587F3EB3

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...33&oe=5876ED14

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...36&oe=5839B749

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7f&oe=586E334F

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...01&oe=5883BDE8

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20-%20CDR.pdf

Knight Hospitaller Sep 22, 2016 3:32 AM

Love it.

El Duderino Sep 22, 2016 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 7570449)
Love it.

Looks like they got rid of that pesky billboard, too. Digging it.

christof Sep 22, 2016 2:19 PM

It does have an impressive look to it.

Milksteak Sep 22, 2016 3:32 PM

They are going to make a killing at this location...down the street from the financial district and a couple of blocks from Rittenhouse Square...one of the best locations for a hotel.

jsbrook Sep 22, 2016 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Milksteak (Post 7570921)
They are going to make a killing at this location...down the street from the financial district and a couple of blocks from Rittenhouse Square...one of the best locations for a hotel.

And right next to Pizzeria Vetri and right by all the Walnut Street shopping. Really a killer location. I like the Hyatt Centric vibe too. I liked their Miami hotel.

Nightman Sep 22, 2016 5:29 PM

Like it but not happy that they took away the rooftop bar/restaurant. I guess the NIMBY's objected.

PhilliesPhan Sep 22, 2016 8:22 PM

I love all the curves on this sexy beast! ;)

summersm343 Oct 5, 2016 4:09 PM

This has been approved by the CDR

http://philly.curbed.com/2016/10/5/1...-october-recap

MikeNigh Oct 5, 2016 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7584376)

2400 Market is the one I'd just plainly say no to. Way too close to 30th.

jsbrook Oct 5, 2016 5:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeNigh (Post 7584481)
2400 Market is the one I'd just plainly say no to. Way too close to 30th.

What? Not sure what this means.

MikeNigh Oct 5, 2016 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 7584548)
What? Not sure what this means.

It's too close to 30th station to not be a tower. If they are going to let shits like that that close to the major transportation hub then they should allow more towers outside of center city.


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