Taken in the afternoon 1/12/2021.
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1-15. The crane must have just jumped as now I can see it from my apartment in Fulton River District peeking above Presidential Towers.
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BTT you make a good point- Our new blue glass towers are relatively well-spread throughout the city. I'd still take a HY development here any day! |
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This is just a visual observation from yesterday... the core is (4) floors above the final setback. The impact of this tower in its surrounding neighborhood is yuge. Especially from the expressways.
Mods, can one of you throw a few renderings on page #1 of this thread? https://i.postimg.cc/15pdKrhL/Image-02.jpg |
Does anyone know when they plan to start renovation of the upper floors of Union Station into the two-flag hotel?
I'm guessing this is on ice until after Covid at least, nobody is starting hotel construction these days. And Amtrak's ongoing feud with Metra over the station doesn't help either (one of the arguments is actually that Metra feels entitled to some of Amtrak's reserved parking spaces in the BMO Tower garage). That said, I'd love to be proved wrong if anyone's heard anything about the hotels lately. |
^ Hotel construction is not totally dead. There are two large hotels going up in downtown LA, one that started pretty much during the pandemic. I think a lot of developers are looking 24-48 months down the line when the pandemic will (hopefully) have subsided.
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Amtrak travel via roomettes may be one of the safer ways to travel nowadays, especially the roomettes with bathrooms...
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I'm not exactly an insider, but it's my understanding the hotel is pretty dead, and has been for two years. Prior to Covid the hotel market was already beginning to slip and the deal stalled over disagreements on the value of the space. Not that it might not still come back, but it will probably be reworked if it does.
Any work in the station areas are mostly stalled as well for about the same 2 years. The original plan was that the developer would contribute to the renovation of the concourse, but this project hasn't turned out to be the sort of profit generator for that to be in the developer's interest. Metra similarly hasn't been in a financial position to contribute to improvements, and no federal aid has materialized for the project. Here's to hoping that this current presidential administration and congress will prove to much more favorable to transportation projects and Amtrak funding and something will get done. |
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I'm actually curious what the ownership structure of this tower is. Did Amtrak sell the land outright to Riverside, or is it a 99-year ground lease? Or is Amtrak somehow a full partner in the deal by contributing land in exchange for a % ownership of the improvements (aka the tower itself). |
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I mean, if we can't get a strong investment in Amtrak and related transportation projects now, forget about it. |
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I really don't know many details of the the development, what's stipulated in the PD and any other agreements with Amtrack and the city. However, I'm cautious about assuming anything other than Riverside and Convexity underwriting the hotel phase of the development to be able to stand on its own (with of course whatever Amtrack/public/historic tax credits etc are planned to be part of the financing). In fact, I'd doubt the financing of the office tower and Union Station redevelopment itself will be linked in any way (other than very indirectly - if the tower is very successful, and further bolsters the developers' financial position/track record/reputation etc.....maybe it provides some benefit in terms of the financing terms they'll land for the hotel/station redevelopment). Could be wrong, but this is my guess about how they're approaching these projects. One thing I would like to know is what are the obligations Riverside/Convexity have in terms of getting the hotel project done. Anyone know? I hope they are significant in terms of timing, penalties, etc. Extra important in a case like this project to put in place framework to dissuade a developer from getting the project who is really mainly just interested in one phase of the development, and for which it would not be a difficult decision to walk away from the other phase(s). Not asserting that is at all the case with Riverside/Convexity - but it's easy to envision such a scenario for projects like this, and public safeguards insisted by Amtrack, the city, etc to this effect are important. |
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Agree, and I've been pleasantly surprised locally with some of the hotel projects that are launching - 300 N Michigan after its initially, pre-pandemic delayed construction start, 800 W Lake, apparently this year parcel O in Lakeshore East finally, I may be missing something? This is where it gets interesting in terms of the cyclical timing for developers. The most lucrative projects, all things being equal, will tend to be those that deliver in the earliest years of a new cycle. A decent amount of development comes down to timing, so large bets are being placed, and I admire developers that are taking on this risk with respect to early-cycle timing. One of the projects I've been most disappointed did not get off the ground this past cycle is 330 N Clark. Hopefully Friedman Properties (and if it's partnering again with White Lodging on this one as it has for some of their other River North Hotel projects) has a taste for a little higher risk appetite as well and launches very early in the cycle. |
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I doubt Amtrak surrendered their garage for free, so either they got paid for it outright or they are in the deal as a partner. Whatever proceeds come out of this flowing to Amtrak should be re-invested in the station. I mean, I guess it's possible they were strong-armed into giving up their garage for free but I highly doubt it. Amtrak's top brass is stubborn as a mule. EDIT: actually the PD does specify that Amtrak continues to be the property owner and Riverside the developer. So there's either a ground lease (which Amtrak should be paid for) or Amtrak is entitled to some of the financial returns from the building. Ground lease being the less risky move for Amtrak. |
^ Sounds encouraging.
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^ nice!
i never really appreciated how much of a nice little gap filler this one would be for the adler postcard shots. |
definitely a nice surprise! there will be one more core setback, correct?
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How tall do you guys think it is now
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What kind of filter turns Essex neon green?
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2/5 from North and Elston. For what it's worth great views of St Regis and One Chicago on that drive as well.
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Great pics Harry, as always! I'm really digging the glasswork on this one, even if it is blue :haha:
I hope BMO spurs more office towers in the vicinity of Union Station. Considering how much of a selling point proximity to the big Metra stations in the West Loop is, it always amazed me that much of the area around Ogilve and Union was pretty low slung. The skyline must march westward! |
Great pics harry! I love how the crane in the third photo almost looks like it's tipping it's hat to Sears as a gesture of skyscraper homage......
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Great details on this one. I wish it was another 200ft taller with an additional setback.
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I also think (maybe wrongly, IDK) that more of the top executives and decision-makers are living in the city than ever before, so locating their offices near Metra holds less importance to them - even if many workers overall continue to commute from the suburbs. Surprisingly this may lead to more executives driving to work than before... if you're an executive living in the city, you might take CTA but you might decide to drive. Yes, there's congestion, but it's still only 20-30 minutes from Lincoln Park to West Loop at rush hour. Suburb-based commuters face 60-90 minute drives from their suburban residences - that's a much stronger incentive to take transit. Also, the rise of Uber/Lyft, Divvy, etc have kind of shattered the traditional walkshed boundaries of downtown and allowed businesses to move farther afield without the city needing to invest in costly new rail lines. |
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Based on Harry's photo and the OxBlue Construction cam, the core appears to be on the 42nd-43rd floor, so about 7 floors to go..but I'm a little confused because it appears there is no third setback, just a second one and then it goes up, or am I counting floors wrong? :shrug:
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^^^ That last shot - epic angle.
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what are some lots you're keeping an eye on in this corner of downtown now? Some obvious ones:
1. the Tokyo Inn lot across the street... supposed to be a 24-story tower, seems dead? 2. a parking lot about a half block West, along Van Buren 3. a narrow parking lot to the SW corner of the BMO lot any others? |
One of the two OxBlue construction cams has been relocated to provide a better view as the tower rises:
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This is turning out so much better than I thought it would. If you're going to do a big glass box, this is a good way to go about it.
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