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Mr Downtown Apr 27, 2019 9:39 PM

I biked over there yesterday and took a look. They've driven two squares of sheet piling, each about 20x20 feet, about 100 feet apart. Looks like they'd be along the east curbline of Wells-Wentworth. I presume it's so they can excavate storm sewer drop shafts. I think the promise was that this parcel would handle all its own stormwater runoff, so presumably the new shafts will connect to some filtration basin prior to discharge into the South Branch.

SolarWind Apr 29, 2019 2:27 AM

April 26, 2019


cozy May 5, 2019 2:17 PM

May 4th:

https://i.imgur.com/xiWk3j3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/prpgrqg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1FHsEEQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M2tnF7n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tUvw7Xh.jpg

BonoboZill4 May 5, 2019 4:39 PM

The Spire hole is contagious! Everybody panic :0

cozy May 5, 2019 9:23 PM

^hahah!

Interested to find out what this is really for, though. Would be cool if it is indeed a storm sewer drop shaft as Mr. Downtown guessed

Tcmetro May 5, 2019 10:14 PM

May be work on the Wells-Wentworth connector project.

Mr Downtown May 5, 2019 10:34 PM

Yes, it's clearly part of Wells-Wentworth construction—but what, exactly? I'm thinking catch basins, maybe larger than usual or with sediment trapping capability.

BonoboZill4 May 27, 2019 5:16 PM

Snapped a couple shoddy pictures. A bit more equipment over there than I remembered

https://i.imgur.com/uBTwuaF.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/y093Qw2.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/Ky96Je0.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/3mRMSKH.jpg?1

the urban politician Jun 3, 2019 9:43 PM

Crains stating that the U of I system is getting $1.9 billion, and $500 MM is going towards the Discovery Partners Institute. Pritzker had a change of heart?

That article also stated that the DPI has raised $400 MM in private money, although no details were given.

This thing looks like it might actually happen. Related Cos must be happy

BVictor1 Jun 3, 2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8593729)
Crains stating that the U of I system is getting $1.9 billion, and $500 MM is going towards the Discovery Partners Institute. Pritzker had a change of heart?

That article also stated that the DPI has raised $400 MM in private money, although no details were given.

This thing looks like it might actually happen. Related Cos must be happy

^I'm certainly happy. Something to get this project going.

ardecila Jun 3, 2019 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8593729)
Crains stating that the U of I system is getting $1.9 billion, and $500 MM is going towards the Discovery Partners Institute. Pritzker had a change of heart?

That article also stated that the DPI has raised $400 MM in private money, although no details were given.

This thing looks like it might actually happen. Related Cos must be happy

I read that article also, but it sounds like a lot of that money is going to other research facilities in the UI system and not necessarily the DPI.

Either way, given the money involved here I am expecting a top-flight architect and an award-worthy design. Too much to hope for Richard Rogers or SHoP? Maybe Norman Foster as a consolation prize after his excellent O’Hare design was not chosen?

the urban politician Jun 4, 2019 12:56 PM

^ That article specifically mentions $500 million for the DPI

Handro Jun 4, 2019 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8593885)
I read that article also, but it sounds like a lot of that money is going to other research facilities in the UI system and not necessarily the DPI.

Either way, given the money involved here I am expecting a top-flight architect and an award-worthy design. Too much to hope for Richard Rogers or SHoP? Maybe Norman Foster as a consolation prize after his excellent O’Hare design was not chosen?


Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8594298)
^ That article specifically mentions $500 million for the DPI

Quote:

The state budget, which Gov. J.B. Pritzker is expected to sign, allocates about $1.3 billion for spending on new buildings, renovations and other upgrades over multiple years, including re-appropriating $500 million previously directed at a new research network to be centered in Chicago at the yet-to-be-built Discovery Partners Institute... For the Discovery Partners Institute, and the Illinois Innovation Network that connects it to other university outposts, he said the system has raised more than $400 million of private money to be coupled with the $500 million in state funds. While Pritzker had suggested previously that the state funding might only be released once the private funds were raised, Killeen noted today the new budget legislation doesn’t specifically say the state funding must be matched by private dollars.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/educ...illion-funding

VivaLFuego Jun 4, 2019 2:31 PM

Forgive me for probably missing it somewhere earlier in the thread - are there any reasonably detailed schematics of the planned rail re-alignments, new roadways, etc? Will the Rock Island re-alignment also include any improvements to the level crossing with the SCAL?

Mr Downtown Jun 4, 2019 5:18 PM

I haven't yet seen anything at an engineering level of detail, but the most detailed site plans I've seen, in the PD, just show new diamonds at a different location. However, Related told me a few months ago that discussions with CN were ongoing, based on CN's subsequent announcement of single-tracking and realigning the SCAL. Because property—or at least easement—swaps are involved, it may be complicated by railroad lawyers.

https://i.imgur.com/CxiHCuu.jpg

VivaLFuego Jun 6, 2019 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 8594651)
I haven't yet seen anything at an engineering level of detail, but the most detailed site plans I've seen, in the PD, just show new diamonds at a different location. However, Related told me a few months ago that discussions with CN were ongoing, based on CN's subsequent announcement of single-tracking and realigning the SCAL. Because property—or at least easement—swaps are involved, it may be complicated by railroad lawyers.

https://i.imgur.com/CxiHCuu.jpg

Thanks. A grade separation would be tremendously beneficial, it would address the last major chokepoint on the Rock Island (now that Englewood is done), and this bottleneck will become much more prominent if Metra manages to shift the SWS to LaSalle as per long-term dreams following the 75th street projects to be funded by the new capital bill. Unless, would rebuilding the Grand Crossing connection allow CN to significantly reduce traffic on the SCAL?

Mr Downtown Jun 7, 2019 1:19 PM

I can't think how Grand Crossing would help anything regarding CN freight.

CN might be happy enough to give up the SCAL if they could ever get the EJE double-tracked. Right now it seems like they route important stuff on the J, and slow manifest freights of mostly empties on the Iowa Division/SCAL.

Jim in Chicago Jun 7, 2019 3:53 PM

I don't have pics since I was driving and am a good citizen...

...but my back route home when LDS is jammed take's me down 16th to the Mariano's corner and then N. on Roosevelt.

There was a lot of construction equipment on site this week due West of that corner - where there's sort of a dirt ramp. They were all around the Metra tracks, but I couldn't tell if they were actually working on the tracks themselves or in the surrounding area.

cozy Jun 7, 2019 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in Chicago (Post 8598481)
I don't have pics since I was driving and am a good citizen...

...but my back route home when LDS is jammed take's me down 16th to the Mariano's corner and then N. on Roosevelt.

There was a lot of construction equipment on site this week due West of that corner - where there's sort of a dirt ramp. They were all around the Metra tracks, but I couldn't tell if they were actually working on the tracks themselves or in the surrounding area.

Standard for the area. No relation to 78

BonoboZill4 Jun 12, 2019 3:38 AM

https://i.imgur.com/vJH0gG4.jpg?1

waiting...

Flaccer05 Jun 30, 2019 2:06 PM

June 28

https://i.imgur.com/FNexVOzh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eE89aKXh.jpg

BonoboZill4 Jul 9, 2019 3:44 AM

Soon...

https://i.imgur.com/z1Wys7O.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/wAymLbl.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/zNIO98O.jpg?2

SolarWind Jul 10, 2019 2:01 AM

June 25, 2019


Chi-Sky21 Jul 10, 2019 3:15 PM

is that a sign on that bridge? Never noticed that before

Mr Downtown Jul 10, 2019 4:06 PM

^on which bridge?

the urban politician Jul 10, 2019 4:14 PM

Question about the Wells-Wentworth connector:

Other than the part that tunnels under Roosevelt Rd, why does it take so long to build a road? We are talking about a simple road here, right? Or is there a lot of buried utility work that's going along with it? Sorry if somebody already answered this before.

Chi-Sky21 Jul 10, 2019 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 8628697)
^on which bridge?

Bonbons last shot with the bridge down. Looks like a white sign that says Uter.

rgarri4 Jul 10, 2019 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21 (Post 8628731)
Bonbons last shot with the bridge down. Looks like a white sign that says Uter.

It's from a graffiti artist I may or may not know.

Mr Downtown Jul 10, 2019 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8628705)
Question about the Wells-Wentworth connector:

why does it take so long to build a road?

Um, work on this phase only started in late April. The real world isn't like SimCity. The first thing they have to do is to put in some storm sewers, and that's proceeding.

the urban politician Jul 10, 2019 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 8628784)
Um, work on this phase only started in late April. The real world isn't like SimCity. The first thing they have to do is to put in some storm sewers, and that's proceeding.

Thanks for the smart ass response. :D

And I don't play SimCity

Anyhow, yes work started in April but this is a 3 phase project that is supposed to take quite some time, I believe? Just wanted to know

Baronvonellis Jul 10, 2019 6:35 PM

The first 2 phases are already done. They went through Chinatown. This is the last phase.

Mr Downtown Jul 10, 2019 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8628834)
Thanks for the smart ass response.

I guess I don't understand your "why does it taaaaake so long" whiny question, then. Nearly all construction projects in the US finish after they start.

Phase 1 put in curbs/gutters/new pavement from 16th to Cullerton and a signal at 18th. Phase 2, realignment next to the branch library to eliminate the offset at Cermak, is well under way. Phase 3, the new road through Related Midwest's property, had to be rebid I think, and work just began the last week of April.

the urban politician Jul 10, 2019 8:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 8629017)
I guess I don't understand your "why does it taaaaake so long" whiny question, then. Nearly all construction projects in the US finish after they start.

I recommend trying one of these

Mr Downtown Jul 10, 2019 9:21 PM

^Not covered by my insurance.

ardecila Jul 10, 2019 9:26 PM

I think the bigger question is, why did the project need to be broken into three phases split up over multiple years, and why did it take so many years before CDOT even started the first phase?

The answer to the first question is probably that phases 1 and 2 could be sold as a boon to an existing community in Chinatown, and not a developer giveaway.

And I suppose the answer to the second question is, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Rezko and Auchi weren't lobbying the mayor to get this road built through their site. Related was. And even after Related started pushing for the road to start, CDOT had to find money for it in a very tight budget and complete the Chinatown sections first.

KWillChicago Jul 10, 2019 10:18 PM

Connection completion in time for the holidays?

bnk Jul 10, 2019 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8629165)
Connection completion in time for the holidays?

That's a pretty vague term holidays.. BTW is it pronounced Holi days or Holly days?

KWillChicago Jul 10, 2019 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk (Post 8629198)
That's a pretty vague term holidays.. BTW is it pronounced Holi days or Holly days?

Lol. I guess I was leaning torwards christmas.

rgarri4 Jul 11, 2019 12:29 AM

From my 3D model:

https://images2.imgbox.com/36/5d/Fzk3XuIS_o.jpg

https://images2.imgbox.com/ed/7c/eWfdMGbZ_o.jpg

https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/f6/5r3E4Omo_o.jpg

gebs Jul 11, 2019 2:17 PM

Man, imagine a parallel reality (or a distant future) where Riverline, Southbank, the 78, Burnham Lakefront, AND One Central are ALL fully built. What a complete transformation that would be. It's like creating three new medium-sized cities.

Randomguy34 Jul 11, 2019 5:22 PM

This is the most dystopian skyline I've ever seen....I like it. Fits with the impeding future of climate change

jpIllInoIs Jul 12, 2019 6:01 PM

Illinois Tech joins in DPI, UIUC
 
IIT will be partners with U of I in the Discovery Partners.
Which is great news, I think IIT gets overlooked as a member of Chicago's tech scene.

from IIT:
Quote:

Illinois Tech Joins Prestigious Discovery Partners Institute
Research Partnership with U of I System to Provide Illinois Tech New Platform for Solving Real-World Problems


Illinois Institute of Technology announced its partnership in a new research center led by the University of Illinois System that will spark breakthrough discoveries, fueling economic growth of the state of Illinois and city of Chicago while nurturing and retaining next-generation talent.

One of the nation’s premier universities, Illinois Tech will bring expertise in a variety of critical areas to the Discovery Partners Institute (DPI), including computing, data science, design thinking, food science, biomedical engineering, and intellectual property law. Areas of partnership will include educational, cultural, and research activities, including the exchange of faculty and students for research, lectures, and discussions.
From U of I: U of I System and Illinois Tech announce new research partnership

gebs Aug 15, 2019 2:24 PM

Chicago's building industry creates 1st-ever loan fund to help minority biz

An interesting article in its own right, but it also includes an updated rendering of the 78 that I hadn't seen yet:

https://cdn-vox--cdn-com.cdn.ampproj..._Midwest.0.jpg

Baronvonellis Aug 15, 2019 2:45 PM

OMG, my jaw just dropped to the floor!! That looks incredible! It looks like a whole new city there, and I can't wait for the Riverwalk to extend from Harrison all the way to Chinatown!!!:notacrook::worship:

On Sunday, I walked along the new riverwalk section from Lake Shore Dr to Lake Street. It was packed. The Riverwalk now has to be one of the best urban locations in the world now! It's really amazing how well it turned out. I like that they have alot more restaurants and cafes, it really make it more lively with cafes, beer gardens ect. My favorite new part is the Northman beer garden. They made it look exactly like a Bavarian beer garden, even with umbrellas from Stiegl brewery in Salzburg. The Baron heartily approves!

When the new sections opened it seemed like they didn't have very many cafes. It's turned into a linear version of a grand European plaza now. I love it!!! It's also very unique, I can't think of anywhere where you can walk at the bottom of a skyscraper canyon, a river with boats going by, and cafes like that.

Handro Aug 15, 2019 2:55 PM

They included Riverline as well...

Please, please, please come to fruition in my lifetime!:slob:

ChiPlanner Aug 15, 2019 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gebs (Post 8659262)
Chicago's building industry creates 1st-ever loan fund to help minority biz

An interesting article in its own right, but it also includes an updated rendering of the 78 that I hadn't seen yet:

https://cdn-vox--cdn-com.cdn.ampproj..._Midwest.0.jpg

For comparison- from their website:

http://78chicago.com/assets/img/caro...e-vision-1.jpg

SamInTheLoop Aug 15, 2019 4:19 PM

This is such a better megadevelopment than Lincoln Yards. Just far superior in almost every way I can contemplate.
Entirely better conceived......and I hope, executed.

RedCorsair87 Aug 15, 2019 4:32 PM

Wow! That looks amazing! I wish there was a way for the city as a whole to focus on developing this parcel to this scale before the other megaprojects receive attention.

BonoboZill4 Aug 15, 2019 5:32 PM

Looks like they are getting to the point of refining the tower designs... good. The first draft were obviously placeholders, but you can see a lot more effort being put into the the high rise designs there in the comparison. The low-mid rise structures are all about identical, so I guess we should assume they are being built first? Shot in the dark, I know. I forgot if they had released what stages would go first, been a while since seeing the big pdf for their presentation to the city

Handro Aug 15, 2019 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4 (Post 8659555)
Looks like they are getting to the point of refining the tower designs... good. The first draft were obviously placeholders, but you can see a lot more effort being put into the the high rise designs there in the comparison. The low-mid rise structures are all about identical, so I guess we should assume they are being built first? Shot in the dark, I know. I forgot if they had released what stages would go first, been a while since seeing the big pdf for their presentation to the city

For comparison I tried to approximate the current state of that view from the St. Charles Bridge using Google Earth (I love comparing before/after shots):

https://i.imgur.com/B9KXHAB.jpg?1


https://cdn-vox--cdn-com.cdn.ampproj..._Midwest.0.jpg


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