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God, I really miss going to record stores and spending hours just perusing through the back collection of whatever groups I was into at that time (firstly Disco and New Wave...yeah, I am that old; then Classical music, then the great 60s stuff like the Beatles/Stones/CSNY/Simon&Garfunkle, etc., then a big right turn into Punk Rock and Alternative, then a deep, deep dive into just about everything from the 1970s, from ABBA to Led Zeppelin (and I do mean everything in between),....
fuck, a lot of the albums of the late 1960s-1970s were really, really good. You'd put on the record, listen to the WHOLE SIDE, then turn it over, and do the same on the other side. I discovered so much great deep tracks doing this. There is no way that it is the same with iTunes and the new, garbage way of selling tunes mostly by the tracks. |
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Also indie music in the 00's was another massive scene when I was in college that was probably the last creative music to have been made post 90's. I'm not sure if I'm just out of touch now or if there are decent and creative new Indie type bands but as far as I've seen it either tries to copy their work or is all done on a computer. Edit: probably the most enduring band that was my favourite from the 90's is Tool. It took them 12 years to release Fear Innoculum but it was worth it. |
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2 things that drove my music tastes for musical exploration were Sams and My brother working for a couple of record companies. My thirst for live music came from the later. Watching the move CBGB was fun, taking me back to some of my early finds. |
I loved the Sam's on Yonge as well.
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If historians of the future will be able to mine facebook, instagram etc etc archives for all the photos taken since the advent of the smartphone/digital camera, they will be able to virtually research almost every aspect of society - the only problem will be too much material to draw from. An volume so massive that there will have to be some AI solution to sort through it, I'm sure. I think the significance will be similar to comparing 1970s or 80s photographic documentation of society to that of the late nineteenth century. Maybe greater. Definitely greater. I still feel that good art will come out of that technology, as it's still from the perspective of capturing a photographic composition that stirs an emotion inside of the viewer. Not everybody can/will do that. The main difference IMHO, is that it opens up opportunities to people who may have great artistic sense who wouldn't normally excel at the technical aspects of 'old-time' photography - i.e. no light meters, picking the best film speed/aperture/shutter speed, etc. and then hoping you captured the shot the way you envisioned it, but won't know until you develop the film... |
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I'm always trying to keep myself in check, to make sure I'm not judging newer music from the perspective of some old person whose tastes were set in their youth. Maybe I am, but I'm just not seeing the depth out there these days, nor the musicianship, at least on such a mass level. But I might just be getting old. |
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This entire convo can be summed up by the usual 'your favourite music is whatever you liked when you were 12'. |
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I suspect that there will be some method of accessing old data types in the future, if it is seen as being important, the question is, I suppose, what will be there to access. :hmmm: |
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It also makes one wonder what’s worth saving. How many ‘duck face’ selfies were taken versus the timeless photos that actually captured a moment? Wading through a box of old photos might be a bit of work, but gigabytes of random garbage photos are all the easier to click ‘delete’ on, especially when sheer volume of crap makes finding the gems all the more needle in a sewage plant, to mangle a phrase. Or that our personal data was never our own. How many websites disappeared into the ether, taking their contents along with them. How many severs wiped of ones and zeros and turned into electronic waste? For all Kodak’s flaws, they were our moments, not Apple’s, Facebook’s or Google’s. |
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My journey has taken me from what i liked when I was twelve and opened up a whole world of amazing art, each bit taking me to a different place. Whether it's chronologically forward or backward in the catalogue, each has its own bit of joy to convey. Could be rock, folk, motown, jazz, classical, funk, disco, blues, swing, '80s brand of alternative, punk, grunge (rock with grubby clothes), early rap/hip-hop... it all has something to offer and I try to appreciate its stand-alone merits without influence. Where I find my 'oldness' is coming into play is that I am less willing to give mindless formula music a chance, whether it's a worn-out social comment being rapped over music that another band actually performed three or four decades ago, cheesy bubblegum music sung by some seventies teen idol, mindless constant-thump beat dance music of the nineties, music that seems to exist for no other reason than to excite the bank of subwoofers in the trunk of a fart-canned Honda Civic, etc etc. The older I get, the more discerning I get - I just crave some kind of substance, something that came from the heart and mind of an artist who felt they had something to offer over and above simple revenue generation for the company that owns the publishing rights. And therein lies my struggle - am I discerning based on my personal preferences and my life experience, or am I actually discerning based on some kind of objective quality... and does it really matter? In the end, I conclude that it doesn't really matter, as I like what I like and get joy from whatever speaks to me. It's really only in discussions like these do I really venture to dissect my musical journey and try to parse it out in something that's the equivalent of creating an Excel table to describe art... |
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Probably the more immediate issue will be the opposite of this, archived encrypted data (e.g. Chinese dragnet surveillance of all internet traffic) that will be easily cracked in future years. Though it becomes less and less valuable over time. I'm sure there will be some juicy 40 year old data in there somewhere (keys for ancient government servers still storing private records etc.).
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Spent entire weekends browsing and listening to music at Zulu on West 4th in Vancouver. Amazing process of discovery through conversation too. Finding music I knew nothing about. Magical experience. |
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It's an easy argument to make that we're in the golden age of TV/streaming/video production and creation. The sheer number of things being made these days and their breadth is incredible. |
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