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I was in this area a great deal in roughly the 1965-1975 period, when the area was both less developed and more well-groomed. The basic configuration, now obscured by overgrowth and Google-mobile distortion, was that New York terminated in a fairly wide traffic circle with a big tree in the middle. Off this circle was a dirt road through the gate, and another along the wash that led directly to the street I lived on. The area was very rural back then (the wash was unlined until about 1970), but neatly kept. At that time, it was considered criminal neglect to allow the kind of overgrowth seen in the Google pictures. The memory of the devastating fire of mid-1964 was still fresh in the community's mind. I had a few friends who lived within about 100 yards of the circle, and they told me that past the gate the road was private, there were a few homes up it, and they were very hostile to visitors. Sadly, I never verified this for myself. Crescenta Valley old-timers say that there used to be a nightclub/speakeasy up there during Prohibition days, and that the club continued on for some time after repeal. Coincidentally, a link provided a few pages back by tovangar2, here, provides documentation of this. On page 9 of that pdf, there is an ad for the "Verdugo Lodge" that says, "Entrance south end New York Avenue." It's a fairly safe assumption that whoever built the nightclub built the gate. I lived over in Whiting Woods, which was itself the site of a speakeasy masquerading, if I recall correctly, as some sort of sporting club. |
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Also, of course, leftists and Jewish groups. None of these people could get the US government to recognize the dangers, until Pearl Harbor, but the Bund then disbanded. And the LAPD Red Squad kept right on breaking the heads of their usual targets. The Bund didn't present as dreaded "agitators" or troublemakers. They came across, to the many unaware, as orderly, organized and American (I read one had to be an American citizen to be a member). The GAB tagline: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y...94510%2BPM.jpg csun dl That is the oddest photo of the interior of Deutches Haus. Joint's not exactly jumping, is it? Looks glum. |
Around Market and North Main Streets? (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8886)
1884-1892 Wells Fargo (Exact location unk.) http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/cdm/singleit.../10483/rec/107 Wells Fargo (Market and N. Main) http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rgo&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rgo&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rgo&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rgo&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/20634/rec/6 |
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Kong lives 1999 - LA http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/utils/ajaxhe...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://econtent.unm.edu/cdm/singleit.../14082/rec/222 1998 - Shoe store located on Sunset Boulevard in Echo Park. http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics36/00067975.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics36/00067975.jpg |
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/3d6sIC.jpg http://www.crescentavalleyweekly.com...mountain-oaks/ today, there are still some remnants http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...901/Eynq0V.jpg http://www.avoidingregret.com/2014/0...ks-resort.html I especially like these two fireplaces. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/4GjC5g.jpg http://www.avoidingregret.com/2014/0...ks-resort.html I've been searching for the 'ruins' from google_earth, but I haven't had much luck yet. red circle=stone arch http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...911/ONiBUy.jpg ______ Further reading, with many more photographs: A Peek Into Secluded Mountain Oaks http://www.crescentavalleyweekly.com...mountain-oaks/ Mountain Oaks Resort, Abandoned and Illegally Subdivided (illegally subdivided, as in 400 10x10 lots) http://www.avoidingregret.com/2014/0...ks-resort.html http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...908/2NxTpm.jpg illegally subdivided, as in 400 10x10 lots! __ |
I don't believe we've seen this unique building on NLA yet.
It's located in Venice at Speedway and Thornton Avenue. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/XGPhym.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/383105...n/photostream/ I like this distant view of it. (I believe we're looking down Speedway) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/5dDX3C.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/383105...n/photostream/ The google-mobile didn't go down Thornton Avenue, but here's a view of the unique entrance from Speedway. (I can't make out what it says on the plaque) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/TRzUry.jpg GSV 'doglord' took this photo from Thornton Avenue, showing a second entrance that's below-grade. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/zjZCk5.jpg http://dogtownink.com/21/thornton-towers-historic/ Several sources say it's called Thornton Tower and 'doglord' says there's a Isadora Duncan connection! here:http://dogtownink.com/21/thornton-towers-historic/ Here's a GSV look. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/PkYpwo.jpg GSV even the back is graceful. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/q9asJo.jpg GSV I've been trying to find a vintage photograph of it, and some further information. Surely it shows up in some old aerials. (but I haven't spotted it yet) -are there Sanborn maps available for the Venice area? __ |
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I found a PDF file at freevenice.org that calls it Thornton Towers (Isadora Duncan Bldg.), and says it was built in 1913. I have a look for vintage aerial shots. |
:previous: That's a good start Hoss. thanks!
Over the years we've seen, now and again, the numerous (and often hard to find) public stairways that are scattered throughout the hills. So I find it hard to believe that we haven't seen this particular stairway, with it's impressive 'balcony-like' platform. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/wTJFr4.jpg Don Barrett at http://www.ipernity.com/home/donbrr Does anyone know where this is location? The photographer didn't disclose the location. __ |
Another, more precarious, set of stairs in Griffith Park.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/3tDHBU.jpg http://www.ipernity.com/doc/donbrr/2...n/album/467687 Don Barrett wrote: "These ladder/stairs go from the trail up to the base of an electrical tower of LADWP. I was surprised to see them readily accessible with no signs to stay off. A rough guess would be that they were built in the 1940." Here's a second look....straight up. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/Jv59G2.jpg http://www.ipernity.com/doc/donbrr/2...n/album/467687 that's just waiting for a lawsuit. __ |
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There is a new introduction to my inventory of Fremont Place architecture here; the latest house history included is thate of establishment L. A. attorney and classic turn-of-the-20th-century booster Edwin A. Meserve, #82, seen at left above. At right is the John S. Shepherd house, #68. While The Paul Revere Williams Project (paulrwilliamsproject.org) does not list 68 Fremont Place as a project of the great architect, it's conceivable that the house was one of his very early efforts after becoming licensed in 1921—Williams designed a large number of houses in a variety of styles in newly developing Flintridge from the early '20s, including Mediterranean in a vein similar to #68. Given the impression of certain trademark mid-century themes remaining even beyond subsequent renovations of the house, Williams may well have been involved in a circa-1955 remodeling of 68, if not with the original 1923 design. Can anyone here on Noirish shed light on Williams's involvement with the house? |
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No Street View of this neighborhood. Some owner has very much enlarged the original design of #68. The lovely Spanish revival style of the original house design has been obliterated and replaced with semi-French provincial. This 8,934 square foot house sits on a 0.49 acre lot and features 7 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms. This property was built in 1923 and last sold on August 30, 2012 for $6,300,000. Someone glued a gauche che' che' Beverly Hills style overhang on the front of the house....dreadful. The interior is plain in the extreme and the den is frightful to say the least. The brick fireplace in the den...was the designer drunk? http://tours.tourfactory.com/tours/tour.asp?t=391101 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psmftcss0y.jpg GSV Added on overhanging something with wrought iron columns. I do like the added wraparound driveway. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psfccfavup.jpg tourfactory |
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http://livingnewdeal.org/wp-content/...rve_center.jpgLiving New Deal I recalled something about this area with the Naval and Marine Corps Reserve Center that the historic plaque doesn't include, but should have. This building was completed in 1941 as the nation was about to enter World War II. In 1943, two years after it opened, new recruits armed with wooden clubs emerged from the compound and swept across the city, beating up young Mexican-American youths dressed in Zoot Suits. A 70th Anniversary article on the riots included this account from a then 15-year-old Gene Cabral, who lived near the naval center in Chavez Ravine: Cabral’s house was less than two blocks from the Naval Armory where most of the mobs of soldiers began their attacks. The assaults stunned him and his friends. “I guess all I thought is, ‘What the hell? If I go out there, someone is going to beat me?’ ” he said. “It didn’t make sense to me. I just stayed in my house with my young mind trying to figure out what we did wrong.” http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ts/book008.jpgLos Angeles Almanac Only a couple posts about this are on NLA, probably because most of the photos associated with the riot that I have seen are of individuals and not really location specific, but mdiederi did a detailed post about the Sleepy Lagoon Trial and the Zoot Suit Riots, also known as The Sailor Riots: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2580 Although tensions had been building in L.A. for several reasons, a May 31, 1943, brawl between zoot-suiters and sailors seems to have been the catalyst for the riots that occurred soon after. From a book by: Eduardo Obregón Pagán: The attack on a group of military men that Monday night was the spark that ultimately touched off an explosion of rage. Around 8:00 P.M. a dozen sailors and soldiers strolled down Main Street, and among them was Seaman Second Class Joe Dacy Coleman. Near Chinatown the military men spotted a group of young women on the opposite sidewalk, and most of the men — with the exception of Coleman and a soldier-crossed the street to talk to the women. Coleman continued ahead, and as he passed a small grouping of zoot-suited boys, he saw, out of the corner of his eye, one of the boys raising his arm in a manner that looked threatening. The sailor quickly spun around and seized the young man’s arm. Something struck Coleman on the head from behind, and he fell to the ground unconscious, breaking his jaw in two places. Whether the young civilian acted in a threatening manner or not, Coleman clearly made the first aggressive contact in seizing the young man by the arm, and the other civilian boys responded in kind. On the other side of the street young civilian men pounced on the servicemen from all directions, seemingly out of nowhere, swinging rocks and bottles and fists and feet with fury. In the midst of this fusillade the military men managed to fight their way over to where Coleman lay and drag him off to safety. The triumph of the civilian youths would be short-lived, however, for it would ultimately provide the sailors at the armory with all the justification they would need to take the law into their own hands. Here's a different look about the Zoot Suit Riots from this interesting article: War in History of American Fashion Zoot Suits: The Trend that Sparked a Riot http://www.shmoop.com/history-american-fashion/war.html From the article; mention of the Armory: "Streaming out of the Naval Armory with weapons that ranged from tire irons to clubs and knives, they prowled the streets looking for zoot suiters to rough up. They even invaded movie theaters, turning on the house lights in mid-screening to reveal Chicano youths in the crowd. The mob's first victims, guilty of nothing but bad being in the wrong place at the wrong time, were twelve- and thirteen-year-old boys who suffered beatings. Mexican-American adolescents responded the following evening by driving past the Armory and shouting epithets at the guards. That night, rampaging sailors caravanned miles across the city, into the heart of the Mexican-American barrios of East Los Angeles and Boyle Heights, where they indiscriminately assaulted zoot-suited youths." The following is a great link to a PBS page from a program they did on the riots. If you click on this map it will take you to a timeline (of about two weeks) and what happened each of those days as the riots progressed. JUST CLICK ON THIS LITTLE MAP TO OPEN IT: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/zoot/pa...amap_intro.gif |
Howard Hughes
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noirLAfile CD Howard Hughes - Mr. Noir 14 Jul 1936 — Howard Hughes age 31, billionaire, is shown here as he was booked on a suspicion of negligent homicide by Det. Lieut. Tom Sketchley (right), following a traffic accident in which Gabe S. Meyer, a pedestrian, was assertively struck and killed by Hughes’ automobile. Hughes was released on his own recognizance. n the day of the accident Hughes was out driving with one of his many young lady friends. Hughes pushed her into the crowd before the police showed up. Originally a witness stated that Howard was driving at unsafe speeds, and that the pedestrian that was struck was standing in a streetcar safety zone. By the time of the court hearing, the same witness stated that Hughes was driving at safe speeds, and that the pedestrian struck had stepped out of the safe zone, and in front of Howard’s car. |
Noir La Crescenta Raymond Chandler
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I guess I assumed that everybody on here has read all the Raymond Chandler one could find. But have y'all? The La C flood made me think of one of Chandler's early works- maybe "Nevada Gas" wherein the hero leaves a bad guy cuffed to a corpse in a flood ravaged and abandoned house. And although I looked at all the old pages of lanoir before I joined up, I don't recall any study of Chandler locations. [but maybe Geiger's house on La Verne Terrace has been ?] Usta be folks ran Chandler bus tours to visit existing buildings that Chandler used in his stories- often under disguised names, such as the town of Rialito. Chandler was hyped as seeing LA with an 'X-ray eye' For my money , that was a pretty good description of most of his work, especially pre-WW2 |
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The area of Griffith Park adjacent to the intersection of Los Feliz and Riverside is also used as a scene setting in that story, and Montrose is used again in another story, though I can't recall which one right now. |
16 Thornton Avenue
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http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original 1918 Santa Monica Sanborn Map @ LAPL The next previous Sanborn Map is 1909, and it shows nothing larger than a two-story house on any corner of Speedway and Thornton. There were two small cottages at 16 and, in the back, 16-1/2 Thornton Avenue on the 1909 map. This April 6, 1912 Southwest Contractor and Manufacturer article must refer to 16 Thornton Avenue: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=701 Los Angeles County gives a build date of 1913 and an effective built date of 1916 for 16 Thornton Avenue. |
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Hi, I just found this post which made me join this forum. I would like to say THANK you for posting this. I know it was posted 4 or years ago but THANK you! Also the links for three of the pictures are broken and I was just wondering what those pictures are of and do you still have them?
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