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C. Jun 23, 2021 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by edale (Post 9320249)
yeah, that caught my eye too. I'd like to know where...I check the Detroit development threads pretty often, and while there is a lot going on there, I don't think 26 12+ story buildings under construction sounds right.



This is what I was able to find on Emporis
https://www.emporis.com/city/101037/.../all-buildings

Detroit Marriott at the Renaissance Center - 70 floors
Hudson Tower - 49 floors
Huntington Tower - 20 floors
Exchange - 16 floors
Hudson Block - 14 floors

Yeah, the numbers for Detroit look bogus. Emporis is less reliable than I thought. Anyone know the real number for Detroit?

Northern Light Jun 23, 2021 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320182)
Data from Emporis on number of 12+ floors buildings under construction in select US cities. Please feel free to update the numbers below if the data on Emporis is inaccurate.

New York City - 299
Toronto - 243
Houston - 81
Miami - 38
Chicago - 34
Panama City, Panama - 27
Detroit - 26
Los Angeles - 25
Atlanta - 21
Seattle - 17 (22 per mhays)
Philadelphia - 17
Jersey City - 16
Boston - 12
Dallas - 12
Bellevue - 11

In respect of Toronto, the website www.urbantoronto.ca is probably the definitive source.

In respect of what's 'under construction'........

Under-construction
100-199m = 78
200-299m = 10
300m+ = 2

You can count the total number or work out the 12-storey number using their database:

https://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/

Northern Light Jun 23, 2021 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320243)
My guess would be no - at least not an accurate count anyway. It's whatever we on the skyscraper forums are able to count and report.

I did see an article once talking about the number of cranes in a city, but the numbers were determined to be bogus after further analysis.

www.urbantoronto.ca now has a thread for cranes in that City.

As at June 14 the number was 323.

Thread link:

https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/thread...d.32227/page-5

craigs Jun 23, 2021 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mhays (Post 9320198)
New York and Toronto also benefit from a large percentage of their total growth being in high rise form.

Agreed. Since returning to LA I've noticed a ton of construction, but almost all of it is between three and seven floors.

bossabreezes Jun 23, 2021 7:34 PM

^^I like the low rise feel of most of LA, but some things leave me scratching my head. Not sure why they are constructing such low rise things in the Hollywood area, IMO they should be really cramming the density there. Theres a housing shortage, it's obvious, but nobody seems willing to increase building height.

edale Jun 23, 2021 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320256)
This is what I was able to find on Emporis
https://www.emporis.com/city/101037/.../all-buildings

Detroit Marriott at the Renaissance Center - 70 floors
Hudson Tower - 49 floors
Huntington Tower - 20 floors
Exchange - 16 floors
Hudson Block - 14 floors

Yeah, the numbers for Detroit look bogus. Emporis is less reliable than I thought. Anyone know the real number for Detroit?

The Ren Cen has been around since the 70s. Unless it's undergoing a major remodel, and we're counting that as 'under construction', it should not be on this list. So Detroit has 4 buildings over 12 stories under construction, not 26. That sounds more realistic. Also makes me call into question that entire list. What an egregious error.

the urban politician Jun 23, 2021 8:17 PM

What the hell happened to Chicago? Wow, that's pathetic

plinko Jun 23, 2021 8:19 PM

Nvm

C. Jun 23, 2021 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edale (Post 9320304)
The Ren Cen has been around since the 70s. Unless it's undergoing a major remodel, and we're counting that as 'under construction', it should not be on this list. So Detroit has 4 buildings over 12 stories under construction, not 26. That sounds more realistic. Also makes me call into question that entire list. What an egregious error.

No kidding! So it's the individual urban forums for each city that are going to have the most accurate count followed by SSP/SSC database.

With that said, can those most familiar with their city read out their numbers for number of buildings u/c and/or number of cranes? I tried to count Toronto's numbers, but there was too many. :haha:

Northern Light Jun 23, 2021 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320340)
No kidding! So it's the individual urban forums for each city that are going to have the most accurate count followed by SSP/SSC database.

With that said, can those most familiar with their city read out their numbers for number of buildings u/c and/or number of cranes? I tried to count Toronto's numbers, but there was too many. :haha:

I gave you the cranes number just above.


The buildings in UT's Database don't have a break-out at 12 floors, they have a breakout at 100M (roughly 30 residential storeys)

C. Jun 23, 2021 8:42 PM

# of Cranes

Toronto - 323
Phoenix - 20

Interested in the DC number if anyone has it.

Atlriser Jun 23, 2021 8:44 PM

Regarding just residential I can name 10 buildings over 20 stories under construction in downtown and midtown for Atlanta with 5 more in last phase of permitting. That doesn’t count any office, medical, educational or mid rise residential nor other sections of the city such as Buckhead, West Midtown or EST which would add another 7-10 residential highrises. The Texas donuts are probably greater than 30 in the city proper. You clearly aren’t as familiar as you claim to be considering the city has been outpacing the suburbs for 5 years now in multi family residential.

C. Jun 23, 2021 8:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlriser (Post 9320367)
Regarding just residential I can name 10 buildings over 20 stories under construction in downtown and midtown for Atlanta with 5 more in last phase of permitting. That doesn’t count any office or mid rise residential nor other sections of the city which would add another 7-10 residential highrises. The Texas donuts are probably greater than 30 in the city proper. You clearly aren’t as familiar as you claim to be.

But that's exactly the point. 10 buildings over 20 stories are not that big of a deal when we're talking about what are the top cities in North America for construction. And I live in this town, down the street from Grant Park. The hometown booster-ism in Atlanta is on a whole other level...

Binour Jun 23, 2021 8:55 PM

Montréal?
Monterrey?

Behind Detroit?

dimondpark Jun 23, 2021 9:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320182)
Data from Emporis on number of 12+ floors buildings under construction in select US cities. Please feel free to update the numbers below if the data on Emporis is inaccurate.

New York City - 299
Toronto - 243
Houston - 81
Miami - 38
Chicago - 34
Panama City, Panama - 27
Detroit - 26
Los Angeles - 25
Atlanta - 21
Seattle - 17 (22 per mhays)
Philadelphia - 17
Jersey City - 16
Boston - 12
Dallas - 12
Bellevue - 11

Is there a list for just office buildings?

Northern Light Jun 23, 2021 9:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binour (Post 9320384)
Montréal?
Monterrey?

Behind Detroit?

I haven't found anything current for Montreal yet.

But in 2017, The Toronto Star reported 150 cranes in Montreal.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...stability.html

Northern Light Jun 23, 2021 9:15 PM

Vancouver BC has SSP posters tracking cranes.

Forumer Leftcoaster has the numbers as at May 31st of this year:

174

Link to that post, here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...&postcount=114

austlar1 Jun 23, 2021 10:17 PM

Some Austin information: Not in the same league with Toronto, but it is certainly a transformative amount of current and recent construction with more on the horizon. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

iheartthed Jun 23, 2021 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 9320215)
Detroit has 26 buildings 12+ floors U/C?

Surprising, and pretty damn impressive!

No, I think Detroit has 26 buildings in total under construction.

Darkoshvilli Jun 23, 2021 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. (Post 9320182)
Data from Emporis on number of 12+ floors buildings under construction in select US cities. Please feel free to update the numbers below if the data on Emporis is inaccurate.

New York City - 299
Toronto - 243
Houston - 81
Miami - 38
Chicago - 34
Panama City, Panama - 27
Detroit - 26
Los Angeles - 25
Atlanta - 21
Seattle - 17 (22 per mhays)
Philadelphia - 17
Jersey City - 16
Boston - 12
Dallas - 12
Bellevue - 11

No matter how much Torontonians wish they were in the us theyr are still in Canada last I checked.


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