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Three eras of FIAT in Los Angeles
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t...2/fiat1917.jpgAlden Jewell
Circa 1912: South Hope at 10th Street (Olympic Blvd.); the building is gone. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...iatvermont.jpgAlden Jewell Circa 1960: 155 N. Vermont at Council; the building is gone, though not the apartment building seen at right. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Circa 2012: Back to Auto Row; 2025 S. Figueroa at 21st St. Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino: Same logo since 1899. |
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http://www.lapl.org/ Unfortunately, this remarkable place was very short lived. On October 27, 1918 the Lookout Mountain Inn was totally destroyed in a fire. As the L.A. Times explains below, the blaze was blamed on "glowing embers left behind by a party of boys having a sausage bake in the Sherman foothills". http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/10-27-18.Fire.jpg http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124 Like I said in my first post, the few sites that mentioned the Lookout Mountain Inn were unclear about its location and what took its place. A February 27, 1927 Times article announced the completion of a $30,000 mansion "at the summit of Lookout Mountain" for ad executive Chet Crank, and a myth has spread the this amazing mansion, at 8782 Appian Way, is old site of the Inn. There's another layer to this, stemming from the purchase of this property by Lew Ayres, husband of Ginger Rogers and star of All Quiet On The Western Front, Young Doctor Kildare, etc. Some websites call 8782 the Ginger Rogers house, and one (http://takesunset.com/2010/06/ginger...canyon-estate/) even claims that the house was built for her and Lew in 1927. Pretty unlikely since Lew was then 19, Miss Rogers was 16, and they weren't wed until 1934! Regardless of when they moved in, and whether Ginger Rogers ever lived there, it is a stunning home. Before moving on, here are some quick photos: http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/G...yon-estate.jpg http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/20_10457527_0.jpg http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/8...pian-Way-6.jpg http://takesunset.com/2010/06/ginger...canyon-estate/ I spent two afternoons hiking all around Appian Way and tried to picture the Inn at this spot, but it just didn't feel right. Mostly, I was bothered that 8782, the dark gray structure almost hidden behind the A, was on the down slope side of Appian Way, not on the plateau. It's hard to tell much from the satellite image, but the contours of the hill didn't look right to me, or the roads leading up to it. And the lot faces Beverly Hills, not downtown. Here are the images, so you can see what I mean. http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/A...out.merge2.jpg Next stop was the L.A. Central Library. To my surprise their L.A. history section had very little on Laurel Canyon, but a book called Hollywood Then And Now had one major clue -- a "now" photo of the Lookout Inn site. The author didn't give the location or street names, but the "now" photo showed a big electrical tower. There are only a few such towers in the area and by following the path of the high voltage wires in Google Satellite I was able to find the same tower and thus the original site of the Inn. Here's a larger version of the original photo, followed by a panoramic shot I took a few days ago: http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/Lookout.Inn.1200.jpg http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/PanoramaB4.jpg It was hazy when I took this photo, but on a clear day one can see Hollywood, mid city, and downtown, just like in the original photo. The hilltop site was re-graded and the summit road was realigned. The old white fenced road on the left that slopes down to the east was moved to the top of the hill, At the gates and the speed bump it becomes a private road for one block and then connects with the old Cole Crest Drive, which continues east. There is also a short private road to its left -- hidden by trees, behind the wooden phone pole. Moving the main road and adding the other spur road allowed the property to be divided into more lots. The dirt road in the foreground is now McLeod Drive, which winds around to the back of the hill that overlooks the Inn site. This hill is near where the photographer stood when the old photo was taken and is in fact the summit of Lookout Mountain, as indicated by a survey marker. I'd bet that guests at the Inn often took this 10 minute walk up this path to the summit. The smaller road on the passenger side of the white car looks like it was just a trail in the old days, but is now the eastern end of Blue Heights Drive, overlooking Brier Drive and Walnut Drive. Finally, we have the road that curves off in the right foreground. It's barely visible in the older photo, but the direction of the fence shows that this was indeed a road in 1927. Today this is the other side of Blue Heights Drive, which intersects with Sunset Plaza Drive, about 2 blocks west. Here's a small Google map of the area. The large black square marks the Inn site and the small one indicates the summit. The red square indicates 8782 Appian Way. (I believe that the Blue Heights Drive label is incorrect -- I think it should be overlaid upon the unlabeled road to the left.) http://dkse.net/david/Lookout/LMI.closeup.map3.jpg http://www.google.com/ The actual summit, with the Inn site in the background. Downtown L.A. can be seen to the left of the tower. http://dkse.net/david/Lookout/LMI.summit.JPG The summit marker. http://dkse.net/david/Lookout/summit.marker.JPG This is probably a good stopping point for this post but there's more, if people are interested in additional photos and details about the area. I'm still trying to identify some the old roads and will post about them later. TO BE CONTINUED |
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1958: 1440 N. Vine, Hollywood ...and now: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle This also clears up that mystery that I know has been gnawing at you: Apparently Hillcrest Motor Co. did have a branch aside from its 9230 Wilshire store--the lamppost in the first shot below indicates that it was in Hollywood. Apparently Hillcrest left its Hollywood Boulevard location (second pic below) for 1440 N. Vine and was there at least until 1956, by which time it was given over to Clarence Dixon. Quote:
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Hello all, just wanted to say this thread is amazing!!!!
Being an L.A native (born in 82) and thinking I knew everything there was about L.A my fascination begun with downtown L.A's past whilst playing the game L.A Noire. I found myself googling and dug deeper into the authenticity of the surroundings the characters roamed in. Much to my surprise, Rockstar games did a stupendous job with it and in teaching me there was much more to L.A than I ever thought. All that being said, here I am and can't say enough about how sad and proud I am to be an Angelino.....the pictures displayed make my blood bubble with excitement, but with anger at the same time. The truth of the matter is that as much as I love Los Angeles, can we only imagine how much more beautiful it would be if all those buildings still existed! Makes me so angry that so much was lost, take for example the rail cars!!!!! We're having to spend millions on a system that we already had! One that was very extensive and easily better than Chicago's and rivaled that of NY's! So frustrating!!!! My gf lives in Chicago so I travel back and forth at least once a month and have to say (as much as I hate to) that they have incorporated the right blend of old with new architecture thus giving the downtown feel something very original or at least unlike anything i've ever experienced and wished L.A could have....the maddening part is that we did! (still do, but in no way near the same shape their buildings are, yet!). She raves to me how awesome Chicago is yada yada yada yada........Excuse me if any of you are Chicago natives, but the cities are so different it would be unfair to even compare, not saying one is better or much more beautiful than the other, but L.A is L.A and I love it for being L.A and wouldn't want it any other way! Also with that said, I am proud of all that has been happening and is to come downtown....many new projects and restorations going up by the minute it seems. I'm a part of many other threads like this one and follow tons of blogs and other sites that have to do with the latest news of what's going on downtown....be proud of your city and to those posting all of these fascinating pics I say keep up the great work! All of you are truly doing a great deed by putting all of this valuable information out there for those to come can see. Ethereal - I see you have Chicago posted as your location, are you a native of Chicago or L.A? Neither? I've read up to page 61 so far and haven't been able to figure it out! Btw- I live in Rancho Cucamonga and haven't seen anything yet about the SB or Riverside county!!!!! I know its not L.A County, but still pretty important! Also, Anybody have pictures of all the racetracks and hot rod shops like Mickey Thompson's in Long Beach, Shelby Motors in El Segundo or even old Irwindale and Culver City Speedway! Again, kudos to all of you and look forward to all of your updates! |
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520PM.bmp.jpgVintage Los Angeles
It's the vivid dress that makes it, I suppose, but I love this shot north on Vine Street from Fountain. Per the source: "1313 Vine Street in Hollywood during the 1950s...the Don Lee Mutual Broadcasting Building. Also home to KHJ, and the ABC Vine Theater [which] broadcasted... American Bandstand, The Newlywed Game and the Joey Bishop Show to name a few...." https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle |
Excellent conclusion to your Lookout Mountain trilogy David.
Here's your next assignment. ;) Can you find out what street this is in Elysian Park? http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...ysianpark2.jpg I think this is a beautiful postcard....with noirish undertones. _____ I loved the photos of the Don Lee Mutual Broadcasting Building G_W. I didn't realize it is home to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science. |
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle 7601 Sunset Blvd, circa 1962 and more recently. |
:previous: very cool that they left the old rooftop sign intact.
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Even cooler that they built a traditional looking building over the old car lot, especially in a city that was obsessed with tearing buildings down for surface parking
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I've been trying for some time now to find the location of this Fred Harvey Restaurant.
LAPL lists no information with this photograph. http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/242...harveylapl.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=35042 Well, I finally found the answer via this postcard. http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1...743ncahuen.jpg I naively thought all Fred Harvey Restaurants were in train stations (Los Angeles Union Station had a beautiful Fred Harvey until it closed in 1967). After I found out the address I was able to find more information on this particular Fred Harvey Restaurant. It turns out, the restaurant was part of a Santa Fe Trailways Travel Center that used to be located at 1735 Cahuenga Boulevard. (phone GLadstone 1266) below: This ad says it all. http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7...edharveyad.jpg http://laist.com/2010/01/30/laistory...n_cahuenga.php Of course now I would like to find out more about this travel center that I knew nothing about. ____ |
A brief glimpse of the Fred Harvey in Union Station.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/688/pcfredh1.jpg http://www.papersponge.com/page-1/20...matchbook.html http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8494/pcfredh1a.jpg http://www.papersponge.com/page-1/20...matchbook.html http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4960/pcfredh1b.jpg http://www.papersponge.com/page-1/20...matchbook.html http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6...edharveypc.jpg below: The jaw-dropping interior as it appears today. http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4...laobserved.jpg unknown below: The entrance to the old Fred Harvey space in Los Angeles Union Station. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/umw4Dn.jpg http://www.railpac.org/2011/02/09/ea...n-gets-better/ ____ |
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Great Fred Harvey material, e_r. As for the Cahuenga travel center location... there still seems to be a bus station just a lot south of of it, although now under the Greyhound banner. I'm wanting to believe that part of the Colony nightclub might happen to contain a bone or two of the old Fred Harvey's... oh, probably not. Btw, the nightclub's p.r. people made me chuckle with this: "The Colony captures the exclusive and celebrated Hamptons lifestyle—right in the heart of Hollywood. Entering The Colony, guests are ushered into a world of East Coast-inspired luxury, evoking the energy of a destination that has been home to an elite group of pleasure seekers and power brokers." |
:previous: I thought the same thing Gaylord_Wilshire. I was almost certain the Fred Harvey building was part of this new nightclub The Colony.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2...arveytoday.jpg google street view But then I found this photograph of the Fred Harvey being demolished in 2009. :( http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4927/aafredh.jpg http://laheyday.blogspot.com/2009/12...hollywood.html |
Thanks GaylordWilshire for the beautiful color photo of 1313 Vine! It's still a gorgeous building, one of the very few remaining old Hollywood landmarks on Vine. Am I right in thinking that the Hollywood Ranch Market was directly across the street?
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O'Connor Electro-Plating Explosion
Last December, I posted a story on the O'Connor Electo-Plating explosion of February, 1947. A few days ago, the L.A. Times had an article on the blast, with a series of pictures, showing the devastation:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1...xplosion89.jpg L.A.Times http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8...xplosion79.jpg L.A. Times In their story of the accident, the Times had this gem: "The O’Connor Electro-Plating Co. had been in business in the same one-story brick building for almost 20 years. The plant was managed by Robert J. O’Connor, son of the company’s founder. O’Connor knew little about chemistry, so he had hired Robert Magee, who presented impressive credentials. But in truth, Magee had been working as a foreman at a local dairy and was only an aspiring chemist without even a high school diploma. For almost a year, Magee worked on a revolutionary process for polishing aluminum, anxiously waiting to get it patented. He was using a mixture of 140 gallons of perchloric acid and 70 gallons of acetic anhydride, nearly as volatile as nitroglycerin. It was imperative that the acid be kept under refrigeration. But an hour before the blast, the refrigeration unit broke down. About the same time, as investigators later surmised, Magee apparently inserted a plastic rack into the solution, triggering the blast." Magee and his assistant were vaporized in the explosion. The L.A. Times story and a bunch more pictures are here: http://framework.latimes.com/2012/02...ating-corp/#/0 |
Downtown L.A. building set to go from drug den to luxury inn
Maybe there is hope for the Morrison Hotel yet. This is right down the street.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg515...jpg&res=medium L.A. Times http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg33/...jpg&res=medium Google Street View Story is here: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,6281134.story Good luck guys :cheers: |
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Even before the Clampetts moved into 750 Bel-Air Road in 1962, the house was frequently rented out for filming...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...2520PM.bmp.jpgyoutube.com https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520PM.bmp.jpgyoutube.com A couple of screenshots of the exterior of the Atkinson/Kirkeby/Clampett mansion from Jerry Lewis's Cinderfella, 1960. Other than the Clampett's 1921 Oldsmobile truck, the Chrysler Corporation conspicuously supplied cars for The Beverly Hillbillies, everything from Valiants to Imperials. But they weren't the first CryCo products to grace the house's forecourt.... Here are four '56 Chryslers and a couple of Imperials in a company brochure.... https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520PM.bmp.jpgAlden Jewell Apparently the familiar entrance to 750 Bel-Air Road was closed because of all the gawkers, who included me circa 1970 (I still have the Instamatic print--looks about the same as the top shot here). Anyway, the house was also drastically altered or replaced (reports vary) with something more generically McMansionish, the entrance to it moved around the corner to another address. |
Poignant footnote to that über-noir year, 1947
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00093/00093331.jpgLAPL
The Examiner referred to him as the "Bus-riding Romeo" and had this story: "A very distraught young man was Charles Harader, 26, of 2208 Cahuenga boulevard, who rode Griffith Park buses six consecutive days, 10 hours a day, in search of a sweetheart he named as Susan Simpson, 22. He showed picture of her to newsmen. They discovered the picture was that of Radio Actress Lynn Allen, who 'never saw him before.' Tearful 'Chuck' suspended his search." The story in the Times: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...2520AM.bmp.jpg Los Angeles Times October 19, 1947 Of course in my fertile imagination I imagine that the hapless and deluded Chuck was really looking for Beth Short... Miss Allen's black hair & all.... Next stop: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zcLrtDvWNw...rest+Hills.JPGitsfilmedthere.com/ This is actually 306 Loma Drive, the Mary Andrews Clark Memorial Home, which we've seen here before and has apparently become apartments. |
[QUOTE=FredH;5601764]Maybe there is hope for the Morrison Hotel yet. This is right down the street.
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Do we have new era of noir in the making? Under the tinsel, 2012 edition--here's an article in today's N.Y. Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/op...llywood&st=cse |
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The entrance to the Harvey Apartments with its perfunctory,
neo-industrial signage, the ideal image for working-class Santa Monica Boulevard. As you probably remember, it was in the Harvey's lobby, in December 2010, that Harold Martin Smith, an ex-con and the prime suspect in the Ronni Chasen murder, shot himself as police 'closed in'. Back in 1957 (yes, a fleabag even then) the Harvey was home to Louis Spivak and Richard McFall, the 'mastermind' and his number one co-conspirator, respectively, a couple of California State Department of Corrections alumni (Folsom), who with a couple of other suitably shady characters, were involved in the armed home invasion, kidnapping and robbery of Lauritz Melchior, his wife and housekeeper. It all came to naught, everyone being rounded up within a few days and most of the loot being restored to the Melchiors. All very noirish.
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After all the talk about the Lookout Mountain Film Lab, I came upon this Production of Theirs on Youtube. Talk about Noirish L.A.
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This is almost as silly as the "duck and cover" exercises we used to have to do in elementary school, as though less than an inch of plywood was going to protect you from the effects of a thermonuclear attack.
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:previous: KevinW..thanks for providing the link to the Civil Defense film produced at Lookout Mountain's 'secret' facilities in 1954.
Here are a few screen-grabs. http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5...ilmyoutube.jpg below: The old shelter signs in downtown Los Angeles. http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/7...okoutfilm1.jpg below: A view of the Hollywood Freeway. http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7...lmcityhall.jpg below: Even the May Co. Department Store on Wilshire Blvd. has a cameo. http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6...ycowilshir.jpg Thanks again KevinW! |
A group of albumen photographs taken in Los Angeles circa 1904.
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/6...eles1904eb.jpg ebay Does anyone recognize any of these mystery places? ____ |
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ebay below: The La Wanda Arms in 1936. http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9...erentaddre.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...x=133006359234 above: USC has this apartment building at 1217 N. Berendo Ave. I believe this is a mistake. below: The apartment building at 731 North St. Andrews Place. http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2...placelawan.jpg google street view http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2...placelawan.jpg google street view http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8...placetoday.jpg google street view below: The complete matchbook. http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/225...placelawan.jpg ebay ____ |
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I guess that building is still for sale? You know, when I explore the hills -- one thing I keep seeing -- it's amazing many of these mega mansions in the hills above Hollywood, etc. are unoccupied, or for sale. About 1/3 of them, maybe more. I'm talking about the really big, extravagant homes. It seems the bigger the house, the more likely it is that nobody lives there. Back to the film, I really enjoyed all the little L.A. vignettes. I thought maybe there was one brief scene from the viewing platform at city hall - did anyone else see that? |
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The Greyhound Bus depot on Vine Street was closed awhile back and a new one was built just south of the old Fred Harvey's about ten years ago. The original Greyhound sign was moved from the Vine Street location to the new site on Cahuenga. This involved negotiations with Greyhound, who wanted to discard it in order to update their image. The original Vine Street Geyhound depot can be seen in many Hollywood movies, including The Killing (1956) with Sterling Hayden. |
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I love cars of the '50s, but I've never understood the appeal of continental kits except as kitsch (and when they're on the original '40s Continentals). The aftermarket maker of this conti kit on a '54 Buick must have realized that more than a ponderous fifth wheel was going to be needed to give a four-door sedan some glamour when it chose this background for an ad. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...20cadillac.jpgAlden Jewell A pink Cadillac--a '57-- at the BH Hotel is more like it. I wonder how many factory- pink Cadillacs were actually sold that year.... |
Pink was a popular color for cars in the mid 50s; I remember Ford had a pink and black one. We'd consider it garish today.
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Hello everyone. For years I have been following this site, checking in sometimes twice or more during the day. I have found it to be one of the best sources for Los Angeles research on the internet (I'm also a big fan of Mr. Harnish's work). For a researcher, this site is like a trip to Clifton's....one is sure to find something that catches one's eye.
I hope that once I've worked out the mechanics of posting, I will be able to contribute and give back some of the knowledge I have received here. In the meantime, a few posts back Ethereal Reality mentioned something about the L.A. Freepress ads. I hope this link helps. http://losangelesfreepress.com/ |
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3207/2...87a4ed56_o.jpgOrange County Archives
It was out in Brea--not sure when it met the wrecking ball, but what a loss... almost looks like something that might have been at a world's fair. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520PM.bmp.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpg Two photos above: Maynard Parker/Calisphere |
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I believe that Union 76 Research Facility was the Harley Research Center located at the corner of Imperial Highway and Valencia Ave.
It is gone as of a couple of years ago, and will soon be a mixed use development http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kQpH23QsYj...lorestaMap.jpg johnbeauman2.blogspot.com http://www.historicaerials.com/api/i...952&stamp=true http://www.historicaerials.com |
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http://jpg1.lapl.org/00087/00087906.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00087/00087903.jpg A few shots of the Union Oil research center; Valencia is at left in the top picture, with Imperial Hwy crossing it. All pics: LAPL |
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