SkyscraperPage Forum

SkyscraperPage Forum (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/index.php)
-   Found City Photos (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   noirish Los Angeles (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170279)

HossC Feb 3, 2016 8:05 PM

Today's Julius Shulman post takes us to Hollywood - well, where else would you put a film library? It's "Job 4403: Leroy B. Miller, Evco Film Library (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1968".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Mr Shulman was obviously quick, as the lady in the white dress didn't even make it to the top of the stairs before the second shot!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

The building is still standing as 838 Seward Street, although I had to go back to 2011 to get this view of the building in original condition. A sign just out of shot to the right says FilmCore Film and Video Storage.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

Also from 2011, here's the street number still on the small brick wall by the sidewalk.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

That's all changed now. In the last few years, all the brickwork has been covered, and the open fence has been replaced.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

Just across the street and slightly to the south I spotted this building at 823 Seward Street. The property sites say it was built in 1927. The historic street views show it's been cleaned up fairly recently.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

oldstuff Feb 3, 2016 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7323038)
A 1940s Kodachrome slide of the parking lot at the new Chinatown [1940s]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/5FGLuU.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1940s-3...4AAOSwKtlWpTDP

I haven't noticed that unsightly utility pole in other photographs. What's it for?


I'm outta' town until Friday. Have fun noirishers! :)
_

The frame at the top of the pole looks like the mounting for an air raid siren

Hollywood Graham Feb 3, 2016 10:01 PM

Three Wheel Motorcycle.
 
If that is indeed a Harley-Davison it is called a Servi-Car. Servi-Cars were used for parking check and their supervisors. This is not a LAPD Parking Checker as they were black and white. The Servi-Car was popular with some dealerships who delivered the customers car after servicing. Thomas Cadillac was one I can think of offhand for sure.

GatoVerde Feb 4, 2016 12:00 AM

French Consulate
 
French Consulate building at 445 East Aliso Street, undated from LAPL

http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/FrenchConsulate.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061650.jpg

I'm having trouble figuring where this building actually stood. By its address it would seem that it should have been on the south side of Aliso near the corner of Alameda, but I'm not sure. I have also panned through resources and could night find any other definitive images, or any reference to this location online.

I thought maybe the French quarter might have been discussed or perhaps someone here knows something about the history pertaining to this building, and to the French quarter in general.

Thanks.

GatoVerde Feb 4, 2016 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7322470)
:previous: Not bad. :)


CityBoyDoug, here's a look inside Graham's "Canvas Cathedral".

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/Mmq730.jpg
http://www.thearda.com/timeline/events/event_33.asp



And here he is as a mutant, towering over his tent getting ready to smash the sin out of the people.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/hn38qa.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/256283035015691234/

"in the Canvas Cathedral with the Steeple of Light" I wonder what this means.....do you suppose there was a large searchlight?


___

Frank Lloyd Wright designed the a Steeple of Light for the Community Christian Church in KC, MO, in 1940. The "steeple of light" did not actually materialize until rather recent history but I don't know if it was a hot topic at the time. Additionally, the use of searchlights as advertisement was all too common even until the '70 as these lights were permanent fixtures at most major auto dealers.

The Community Christian Church in KC, MO:
http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/SteepleOfLight.jpg

CityBoyDoug Feb 4, 2016 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7323845)
Frank Lloyd Wright designed the a Steeple of Light for the Community Christian Church in KC, MO, in 1940. The "steeple of light" did not actually materialize until rather recent history but I don't know if it was a hot topic at the time. Additionally, the use of searchlights as advertisement was all too common even until the '70 as these lights were permanent fixtures at most major auto dealers.

The Community Christian Church in KC, MO:
http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/SteepleOfLight.jpg

Old WW II Search lights, which were electric carbon arc, were a big part of Hollywood movie premieres. That's now a bygone era.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps73qkr1l6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psdg9xcgrf.jpg
Google

Beaudry Feb 4, 2016 1:25 AM

'Bout six months ago I was going on about the Angels Flight Café, and then I got this slide which I realized was showing just that corner, so I thought I'd share it:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/646/2...c16a28f4_o.png

Note, from left, the position of the lightpost and the hydrant. There's the empty space left by the AFCafé, La Loma, and Cumberland. Then therefore that house next to the Canary Island date palm is 221, noted in the Palmer Conner shot as "The Last Old Bunker Hill Mansion on Olive Street."

rbpjr Feb 4, 2016 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7321626)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/570/2...1157709b_z.jpg

Cool! Yes, the large shape to the left and down a bit from the pointy tower (Berke Mansion, up at 2nd and Bunker Hill Avenue) is the Rowan apartment hotel at 122 S Hope. Behind it would be 116.

Here they are, in the mid-50s, 116 at left, Rowan on the right—

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/...17d1d47a_o.pnglapl

Thanks, Beaudry...I have the second photo...always wonder what floor my mother lived on (in 1934) and can picture her walking up and down Hope Street...

rbpjr Feb 4, 2016 2:06 AM

116 South Hope Street...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7323917)
Thanks, Beaudry...I have the second photo...always wonder what floor my mother lived on (in 1934) and can picture her walking up and down Hope Street...

I would love to see 116 S. Hope from the back sometime to see how big the building was...

Flyingwedge Feb 4, 2016 7:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7323794)
French Consulate building at 445 East Aliso Street, undated from LAPL

http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/FrenchConsulate.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061650.jpg

I'm having trouble figuring where this building actually stood. By its address it would seem that it should have been on the south side of Aliso near the corner of Alameda, but I'm not sure. I have also panned through resources and could night find any other definitive images, or any reference to this location online.

I thought maybe the French quarter might have been discussed or perhaps someone here knows something about the history pertaining to this building, and to the French quarter in general.

Thanks.

Hi Green Cat!

I believe that building is shown below as 447 Aliso, with LODGINGS written on it, just above the street name ALISO.
On the map the building has a porch all around, and in the photo -- based on what's between the first and second
floors -- the building looks like it might have had a porch removed:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original
1906 Sanborn Map @ LAPL

It looks like by 1921, the building was renumbered to 451: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19410/Plate+004/

Anyway, I went back as far as the first LA City Directory (1872), but did not find 445 Aliso (or any address on
Aliso) as the location of the French Consul. However, the first French Consul, Jacob Moerenhout (or Morenhaut,
or a few other variables), who served from 1859-1879, may have lived there prior to 1872.

Don Louis Sainsevain, a prominent member of the French community in Los Angeles, and the Sainsevain Winery
were across the street from 445 Aliso (the view out the front of 445 would have been right at El Aliso), so I
would not be surprised if the French consul once lived there.

History of the French Community in Los Angeles: https://web.archive.org/web/20060811...id_article=304
Jacob Moerenhout in the 1872 LA City Directory (right-hand column, about halfway down): http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....melton/la8.jpg
Jacob Moerenhout's 1859 arrival in LA as recounted . . .
[a] in the November 5, 1859 Los Angeles Star (pg. 2, col. 2, below the notice about the death of Don Juan Bandini): http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...9coll68/id/267
and [b] in Harris Newmark's Sixty Years in Southern California: https://archive.org/stream/sixtyyear...e/254/mode/2up



2021 Update: This building, numbered 447 Aliso, was also an early home of the USC College of Medicine. A drawing
of the building is in the 1891-92 USC Yearbook (at the link, go back one page to see the address).

HossC Feb 4, 2016 10:47 AM

:previous:

In the late 19th century, the French Consulate seems to have been at 86 Temple Block. Anyway, here's the building in question in 1934.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The full picture shows construction of Union Station well under way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

USC also has a trio of 1932 images showing the intersection of Lyon and Aliso Streets (the lower left corner of the picture above). It's good for context, and shows several buildings which have been cleared in the image above, but 445/447/451 Aliso is hidden/out-of-shot in all three views.

Tourmaline Feb 4, 2016 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 7323647)
If that is indeed a Harley-Davison it is called a Servi-Car. Servi-Cars were used for parking check and their supervisors. This is not a LAPD Parking Checker as they were black and white. The Servi-Car was popular with some dealerships who delivered the customers car after servicing. Thomas Cadillac was one I can think of offhand for sure.


Or maybe mostly black.;)

1959 Husband and Wife parking enforcement team.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083759.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083759.jpg


1965 "Ready for duty."
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00117/00117727.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00117/00117727.jpg



"OK Wig-Wag, put that aeroplane exactly where you found it!" :P

Quote:

Seven persons escaped injury Sunday night when their airplane made a belly landing in the center of Glenoaks Blvd. in Sun Valley. The twin-engine, 10-passenger Aero Commander was headed for a landing at nearby Lockheed Air Terminal when it apparently lost power, police said. The craft, carrying four children and three adults, narrowly missed one car as it made a bumpy landing near Vinedale St. south of Sunland Blvd
1962
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00124/00124100.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00124/00124100.jpg





Speaking of the LAPD, Comedy Department

Quote:

Photograph caption dated June 12, 1947 reads, "But he'll be released tonight, when he opens the two-weeks engagement of the police show at Shrine Auditorium. The Valley's Alan Young will be master of ceremonies at the series of shows, to star Andy Russell, Victor Borge, Dennis Day, Jack Carson, Jack Haley and Marilyn Maxwell."
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00111/00111259.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00111/00111259.jpg


1958 Burbank PD
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00115/00115143.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00115/00115143.jpg




1960 - West Valley Police Pursuit Car
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083889.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083889.jpg






Quote:

An officer pulled a car over Sunday at Balboa Blvd. and Vanowen St. and prepared to arrest the driver on a drunk driving charge. Inside, the officer found Robert Norris, 25, 4809 Sepulveda Blvd., Van Nuys, at the wheel. Norris' probation on an earlier conviction was to end today, and he and several friends had been celebrating, officers said. In photo at left, officers informed him he was to be booked for drunk driving. Police said he told them, 'You'll have to shoot me to take me back,'
1963
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00120/00120525.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00120/00120525.jpg


:previous: "Whoa, Nellie!"

Dick Lane
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nouncer%29.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nouncer%29.jpg







Quote:

Police converged on a North Hollywood neighborhood today and captured two of three men suspected of robbing a Panorama City market...The two captured suspects were identified as Joe Villa and Eddie Maldanodo, both 24...They were booked on suspicion of robbing Smiley's Market, 14712 Parthenia St., of $360 at about 11:10 a.m." Suspect, Eddie Maldanodo, is seen here handcuffed and being led by officers into a police car.
1963
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00120/00120837.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00120/00120837.jpg

HossC Feb 4, 2016 8:04 PM

Just a single picture from Julius Shulman today. This is "Job 288: Matcham and Heitschmidt, David Barry Shops (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

I could only find Polaris Pictures Inc in the 1956 CD. That gave me an address of 5859 W 3rd Street, which is opposite the northeast tip of La Brea Park. Here's the new construction permit from 1945.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Online Building Records

I couldn't see a demolition permit, so, despite the changes, I'm assuming that the original building is behind the updated frontage. At least there's still a cleaners next door.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

GaylordWilshire Feb 4, 2016 8:47 PM

:previous:


One occupant before Polaris, one after:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...5%252520PM.jpgLAT Feb 7, 1947


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...2520PM.bmp.jpg Feb 5, 1967

For some reason, the store's name doesn't appear in the ad...


David Barry Jr was the son of David Barry Sr, one of the developers of Fremont Place: fremontplace.blogspot.com


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...16JanwithC.jpg

Wig-Wag Feb 4, 2016 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7324824)
Or maybe mostly black.;)


"OK Wig-Wag, put that aeroplane exactly where you found it!" :P


1962
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00124/00124100.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00124/00124100.jpg


Interesting photo, Tourmaline. I was working at Pacific Airmotive's Burbank Airport facility at the time but do not remember the incident. However, I find it interesting that the two prowl cars blocking the street to the rear of the aircraft have their hoods up!

Pacific Airmotive marketed a tricycle landing gear and single tail conversion of the Beechcraft Model 18, commonly called the "Twin Beech" as their PAC Tradewind. One day our company VP belly landed the demo A/C at the airport, with the plane stopping almost opposite the hanger from which it departed. The maintenance boys charged with the repairs asked me to do a cartoon showing a burly mechanic with his arm around the plane and a comforting caption reading "Never fear, Captain Flexible is here". It eventually found its way to every building in the PAC Burbank complex.

Cheers,
Jack

Tourmaline Feb 4, 2016 10:14 PM

:previous: Thank you for the story Wig-Wag!



Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7324833)

I could only find Polaris Pictures Inc in the 1956 CD. That gave me an address of 5859 W 3rd Street, which is opposite the northeast tip of La Brea Park. Here's the new construction permit from 1945.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Online Building Records

Could the addresses have been renumbered? Although this would not seem to explain an apparent inability to find permits for the adjoining structure and others on Third Street. For example, at 5850 there was a service station according the the '56 and '73 CD but it clearly was replaced. It also appears from the 56 CD that Earl Francis Cleaners was at 5855 1/2, yet at the corner (5851) there was Chuck's Liquor Store. Not sure how both businesses would fit in the single structure. Notice that present occupant, Pride Cleaners apparently moved from the western end of the same block (5867).:shrug:





An unrelated "Secret Weapon" against sidewalk impregnated chewing gum.
Something says not-so-secret with that engine running.

1961
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00129/00129328.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00129/00129328.jpg



Quote:

Commander in Merchant Marine, who helped celebrate with bonfires in Hollywood last night, shows up on Vine Street this morning to help the street cleaner sweep up the debris on Vine Street just south of Hollywood Blvd.
August 15, 1945
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00106/00106113.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00106/00106113.jpg


1939 - Aloha Cleaners on Vine Street. (Hidden below Hiram Walker sign)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104364.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104364.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 4, 2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7324824)

Red Skelton! (If it's not it sure looks like him!)

Tourmaline Feb 4, 2016 10:32 PM

1922 - Corner of Broadway and 61st Street. (6026 S Broadway)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007842.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007842.jpg


Undated - Corner of Broadway and 61st Street
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007843.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007843.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 4, 2016 10:52 PM

HossC posted about Easton's Restaurant in Studio City.
Many photos are included in his post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7209505)
We've seen Eatons Restaurants and some of their menus before, but I think this location is new to NLA. This is Julius Shulman's "Job 610: Douglas Honnold, Eatons Restaurant (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1949", and the summary says "12010 Ventura Boulevard, Studio City (Los Angeles, Calif.), now demolished." The photographs have index numbers of 9 and 12, so I'm guessing that Mr Shulman took more shots than the two available here. Check out the illuminated chicken ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original


After it was Eaton's Restaurant, the Critiki site says that in the late 1950's it became:

THE TAHITIAN
12010 Ventura Blvd.
Studio City, CA.

https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/5272_jumbo.JPGCritiki
Detail from a postcard.

The site states: The Studio City location was the second one. The first one opened in Pasadena.
Address: 137 So. Lake Ave., Pasadena, CA. The Royal Tahitian in nearby Ontario, CA had identical
lettering, and may have been related. (It was located within the city's municipal golf course.)


https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/4479_jumbo.JPG MATCHBOOKS https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/5296_jumbo.JPG


https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/5580_jumbo.JPG

This is a candle lamp (by Bumatay) from The Tahitian in Studio City.
You can see them on the various tables in the postcard images below.


https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/5266_jumbo.JPG

A postcard showing six views of The Tahitian in Studio City, including the luau spread,
the bar, the banquet room and the fireplace room.

The book "Tiki Road Trip: A Guide to Tiki Culture in North America" by James Teitelbaum
has a paragraph that says "it" closed shortly after 1967, but it's not clear whether he's
talking about the Studio City location or the Pasadena one, or both.


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7209505)
This may be the interior of the restaurant above [Eaton's], but even the source is unsure. This is "Job 697: Eatons Restaurant, seating,1950" and the summary says "For Schafer Brothers. Architect is probably Douglas Honnold, probably located in Studio City."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

HossC, I think we can be sure it is the same restaurant because look at the photo below of The Tahitian,
from the top left corner of the postcard shown above. You can see they kept same "tree" design that is in
the photograph above and the booths are certainly the same.

https://critiki.com/images/locations/732/5270_jumbo.JPG

Martin Pal Feb 4, 2016 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7325030)
Caption: Commander in Merchant Marine, who helped celebrate with bonfires in Hollywood last night, shows up on Vine Street
this morning to help the street cleaner sweep up the debris on Vine Street just south of Hollywood Blvd.

August 15, 1945
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00106/00106113.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00106/00106113.jpg


I've seen many V-J Day celebration photos, some video, and read things about it, but this is the first I've heard that bonfires were lit for celebrations!
Who knew!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7325030)

Is this the photo you meant to post, Tourmaline? I don't see "Aloha Cleaners" and this is "Vine Street." :shrug: I like the photo
anyway, especially the north end of the street where you see the "double hills" where the Hollywood Freeway is now located.


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:35 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.