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SLO Mar 17, 2015 3:42 AM


Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 6942653)
Have fun with that. West Edmonton Mall, their first major mall project, was ripe with promises.

Also, that waterpark picture is a poor photoshop of ours.

Has that mall not performed very well?

I remember being a bit underwhelmed with Mall of America. Seems like they are 25-30 years late

eleven=11 Mar 17, 2015 4:14 AM

what about the metrorail extension to Dolphin Stadium??

eleven=11 Mar 17, 2015 7:39 AM
WHats up with this story&link to miamiherald(witch I cant read.)

N830MH Mar 17, 2015 6:34 PM


Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6953331)
what about the metrorail extension to Dolphin Stadium??

Actually, I think they will extend the metrorail from Palmetto Station to the new mall, but it won't be extended to Dolphin Stadium.

brickell Mar 17, 2015 7:30 PM

Metrorail is going nowhere quick. Don't get your hopes up.

N830MH Mar 17, 2015 8:46 PM

They're approved!!!! :tup: Way to go!!!

N830MH Mar 18, 2015 3:33 AM

Massive mall project wins approval for Miami-Dade land deal


“What an opportunity this is for so many people in our community who would like to have a job,” Commission Chairman Jean Monestime said at the start of the debate that ended with an 11-2 vote.
Way to go!!!! :tup::tup:

eleven=11 Mar 18, 2015 7:10 PM


Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6940722)
good location

very good location, lots of people from broward&palm beach
will visit a fancy/tourist mall.
does it really need a ski slope???
i like the idea of shopping with entertainment but .....
the ferris wheel looks good.

chris08876 Mar 18, 2015 9:43 PM

Ski slope sounds like a cool idea. We have to think of the bigger picture and thats people who will use it as a form of recreation in the region, and visitors. IDK, I think its cool. More recreation is always good. Gives people more options I guess. I would love something like this in NJ. Depends though who you ask; if you like shopping or the types of recreation offered.

Although I will agree on one thing that will be negative about this, and thats traffic. To be fair, congestion will suck. Its already bad, and this adds to it, but economically, its good for the region.

eleven=11 Mar 19, 2015 1:42 AM

what street is the southern side of this project?
170th or 154th street??

chris08876 Mar 19, 2015 1:49 AM


Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6956094)
what street is the southern side of this project?
170th or 154th street??

NW 170th Street.

N830MH Mar 19, 2015 1:56 AM


Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6956098)
NW 170th Street.

Is that near Florida turnpike & I-75?

chris08876 Mar 19, 2015 2:03 AM

Yes sir. I-75 is actually to the East of the project site and the turnpike to the West so it will be accessible via those routes along with the local roads nearby. 87th and 28th Avenue will be major routes for the nearby suburban communities.

chris08876 Apr 6, 2015 1:02 AM

Article talking about opposition, and the potential congestion which is the big issue.

Also the foreshadowing of an interchange being built.

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Proposed mega mall near Miami, which would be the nation's largest, promises jobs, congestion


The question — and, even more so, his own answer — made Omar Olivera sigh heavily. But, yeah, he reluctantly admitted, having a giant shopping mall with a water park, a ski slope and a submarine ride in Northwest Miami-Dade County would be great. Even if it obliterates the pretty, winding canal in which he had just caught a fat bass with his fishing pole.

"If it does a good job of bringing in dollars, I'd say that mall is a net plus, even though it will be sad to lose all this," Olivera said as he methodically plucked the hook from the fish's mouth. "I understand people are worried about the traffic it will bring. But the biggest mall in America is bound to bring a lot of dollars, too."

The canal where Olivera was fishing meanders through an unnamed and unincorporated residential area perched on the eastern edge of Interstate 75. It will be Ground Zero for any fallout if the plans announced earlier this month for the construction of the largest shopping mall in North America come to fruition.

American Dream Miami, as the $4 billion project is called, will include several amusement parks as well as hotels and condos on 200 acres tucked into a triangular area bounded roughly by I-75, Florida's Turnpike and Northwest 170th Street.

I-75 is currently the edge of civilization in that part of the county. To its west is the proposed mall site, a mostly empty tract of woods, scrub brush and drowsily grazing dairy cows. To its east lies the nameless suburban subdivision in which Olivera, a 31-year-old salesman who lives a couple of miles away in Hialeah, was fishing.

Many of the residents in the subdivision believe the mall will be a lively addition to a suburban neighborhood nestled along the highway between Northwest 170th and 181st streets — a neighborhood that is lovely and bucolic, but that in their estimation can also be a little dull.

And even those who hate the idea of a 200-acre shopping mall going up a stone's throw away (provided the stone is thrown by Dan Marino) seem resigned to the idea that it's futile to resist a project that will inject something between 7,500 and 20,000 jobs into an uncertain local economy.

"The county's going ahead with it," concedes Pat Collado, a paralegal who heads the Palm Springs North Civic Association, which includes the neighborhood. "There's just too much money involved. . We hope they just don't kill us with traffic so that we can't move around our own neighborhood."

If organized opposition to the mall should arise, it will almost certainly be due to traffic, because American Dream Miami will bring a lot of it. Triple Five, the multinational company behind the project, says American Dream Miami will be the biggest of its shopping properties, which include the Mall of America near Minneapolis (40 million annual visitors) and the West Edmonton Mall in Canada (30 million).

Right now, the site is served by only one highway exit: Northwest 183rd Street, off I-75 — which raises the specter of a dystopia in which the better part of 40-million-plus shoppers are careening through the surface streets of a neighborhood as they try to reach the mall.

"It's going to be war!" exclaims day care center operator Angela Ortega, 52, a mall opponent who was standing in her front yard a few blocks from the mall site one recent afternoon, gesturing in frustration at the long line of vehicles exiting from one of the eight schools in the area.

"Look at the traffic we have now. And every day it's worse."


A spokesman for Triple Five, which has tried to keep a low profile since the plans for the mall were disclosed earlier this month, refused to comment about potential traffic problems and solutions. But Florida Department of Transportation spokesman Tom Martinelli confirmed that FDOT has been talking with Triple Five for about a year, and the developer has provided detailed estimates about the traffic it expects the mall to generate.

"So right now the department is in the process of evaluating those preliminary traffic projections," Martinelli said. "Based on that, we will make some recommendations from an engineering angle." He said it's too early to provide any details.

Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez, a strong supporter of the mall, said "some kind of interchange" will be built. "But you've got to do it so people who want to get into the mall can do it without going east into the neighborhoods along I-75."

Complicating the discussion is the locally infamous "bridge to nowhere" on 170th Street, long a point of contention in the neighborhood. Built in the mid-1980s for reasons nobody can exactly remember, the bridge extends 170th Street — a two-lane residential street running along a canal and a hiking path — over I-75 and into the area where the mall will be built. Once it passes over I-75, the street turns from pavement into a dirt road, then peters out altogether a couple of hundred yards before it reaches the Turnpike.


Coldrsx Apr 6, 2015 2:33 AM


Originally Posted by SLO (Post 6953307)
Has that mall not performed very well?

I remember being a bit underwhelmed with Mall of America. Seems like they are 25-30 years late

Quite the opposite, it is very successful.

Wayward Memphian Apr 6, 2015 2:43 AM


Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 6978557)
Quite the opposite, it is very successful.

It's undergoing expansion.

Imagine taking your kid for some rides and it be cooled and dry.

N830MH Apr 6, 2015 6:43 AM


Originally Posted by Wayward Memphian (Post 6978567)
It's undergoing expansion.

Imagine taking your kid for some rides and it be cooled and dry.

Lol!!! I can't agree with you anymore!! It going be great! Can't wait to build a new mega mall.

chris08876 Apr 6, 2015 10:08 PM

New Rendering:

mrnyc Apr 7, 2015 2:06 AM

beware the fate of cleveland's randall park mall aka the former largest mall in america before the mall of america!

eleven=11 Apr 7, 2015 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 6979894)
beware the fate of cleveland's randall park mall aka the former largest mall in america before the mall of america!

that old mall is from 1976, What does that have do with 2015.
this new mall has a good location should do well.
lots of locals & visitors will drive to shop there.
still dont think it needs a indoor ski thing, Whats up with the
Mall in NY/NJ? are they still building the ferris wheel?

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