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rick m Oct 8, 2014 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6759103)
Here is some biography on the owner of Berger's which gives confirmation to the 1940's date of the restaurant:
Francis (Frank) Michael Berger was born in Missouri on November 30, 1875 to German immigrant parents. His father was a mechanic. He is found, at the age of four, in the 1880 Census, living in Appleton, St Clair County, Missouri.

He married Luella Thomas, born in Nevada in 1871, on August 7, 1900 in Silver Bow County, Montana. They had a daughter, Lorena (Lola), who was born in Montana in 1901, (She married a Rutherford Beck) and a son Lewis Frank Berger (born in 1907, in Nevada)

He appears in directories, prior to his marriage, in Montana, working in various capacities, including as a mining smelter. The area had many copper mines at that time.

They appear in the 1910 Census, living in Sacramento, CA. At that time he is listed in the Census as being an employee of a restaurant. They moved to Los Angeles before 1918 when he appears in the draft registrations for the First World War.

His WWI draft registration card describes him as being of medium build with blue eyes and dark brown hair. They lived at 215 N. Broadway, Los Angeles when his draft card was filled out in 1918. This is, of course, now the lawn in front of City Hall, part of Grand Park.

The 1930 Census lists him as being employed as a confectioner. His wife was listed as being a saleslady at the confectionery. At that time they lived at 4037 Glassell Avenue. (now apparently Glassell Street, the area is now condos) Her mother lived with them.

The Bergers lived in Eagle Rock in 1937, according to a directory. He is listed as being a restaurant worker. At that time, they lived at 4041 Eagle Rock Blvd.

The 1940 Census gives the clue as to the date of the restaurant. It lists Frank as being the proprietor of a restaurant. Frank and Luella were living with their daughter and her husband at 4805 York Blvd., at the time of the 1940 Census in April of 1940. This house, built in 1921, is still there.

He died on March 3, 1952 in Los Angeles.
His wife died in Los Angeles in December of 1962

Squinting at this eatery sign- I betcha it reads: Italian Shaved Ice Cream-- Anybody concur ?

ConstructDTLA Oct 8, 2014 6:07 AM

Couple Before & Afters pasted over from my Blog:

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...0s-940x750.jpg

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...arage-2014.jpg



http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...-940x1292.jpeg

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...euroa-2012.jpg

fhammon Oct 8, 2014 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6759978)
-a simply beautiful advertising card (1900s?)
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Here's a Dillan & Will ad in the Los Angeles Herald from 1886.
Left page near bottom right.

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...18860421.2.9.4

HossC Oct 8, 2014 12:27 PM

:previous:

For people who don't like following links, here's the Dillman & Will advert mentioned by fhammon.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...llmanWill1.jpg
California Digital Newspaper Collection

The company gets this write-up in the 1886-7 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...llmanWill2.jpg
LAPL

And here's the advertisement from page 142.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...llmanWill3.jpg
LAPL

I haven't found any photographs of the store, and Dillman & Will only seem to be listed in the 1886-7 CD.

jg6544 Oct 8, 2014 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6759601)

I have lived in LA for over 20 years and must have driven by that building hundreds of times, but I never until I saw that picture noticed those wonderful bas-reliefs. Too bad they can't figure out some way to highlight them with color (without making the building look garish). They're beautiful.

ethereal_reality Oct 8, 2014 8:29 PM

"9 Rare 1925 Photos of Movies Being Filmed on Los Angeles Streets California."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/tJNbCY.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...909/0Uzzos.jpgebay



...and here they are a bit larger. (except for the top right photo)

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/0iHAIh.jpg
ebaY




#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/VeJdSe.jpg
ebay



#3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/5PEtb2.jpg
ebay



#4
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/PqYRnX.jpg
ebay




#5
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/SKH94S.jpg
ebay




#6
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/Qkv5Lq.jpg
ebay





#7
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/1tpkB0.jpg
ebay





#8
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/JNKVd2.jpg
ebay

Let's see how many of these locations we can identify. :)
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ethereal_reality Oct 8, 2014 8:45 PM

When we were in the Crenshaw and 54th Street area a few days ago, I noticed this transportation hub at 54th and 2nd Avenue.
What first caught my eye was how S. Van Ness curves and merges with another street to avoid the lot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/N1uHYb.jpg
google_earth




Here's an earlier view
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/904/FWr4xu.jpg
google_earth

-note the two gas-o-meters in the distance.
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-hey, thanks for sharing the before & after photographs DTLAdenizen. They were excellent!

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ethereal_reality Oct 8, 2014 9:32 PM

"Photograph of Los Angeles plumbing supply company, the H.R. Boynton Co. flat bed delivery truck, with crew and freight, circa 1912."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/IM9OdS.jpg
ebay

The truck was made by the American Locomotive Co. (ALCO) which manufactured motor cars and trucks from 1906-1913 in Providence, Rhode Island. The photograph was taken by Nathan Lazarnick, a pioneer in the development of automotive photography in the early 20th Century. Lazarnick worked almost exclusively for ALCO in the early years.



below: Here is a post from way back in 2010 showing the Boynton House. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing this is the same family
that owned the plumbing supply company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5034883)
The Boynton House at 836 S. Bonnie Brae. You can also see a glimpse of the carriage house.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3...houseat836.jpg
ebay





Below: Close up of the laundry wagon.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7...houselaund.jpg
detail


HossC Oct 8, 2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761202)

When we were in the Crenshaw and 54th Street area a few days ago, I noticed this transportation hub at 54th and 2nd Street.
What first caught my eye was how S. Van Ness curves and merges with another street to avoid the lot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/N1uHYb.jpg
google_earth

Here's an earlier view
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/904/FWr4xu.jpg
google_earth

-note the two gas-o-meters in the distance.

Diagonal road sections are often old streetcar routes, but not in this case. Here's the yard in 1954, when Arlington Avenue dead-ended at W 54th Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t2ndAv1954.jpg
Historic Aerials

By 1972, the new section of S Van Ness Place can be seen. The old streetcar tracks have gone, but the main buildings look the same.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t2ndAv1972.jpg
Historic Aerials

These are the replacement buildings in 2004 (which tends to be the sharpest of the recent Historic Aerials images).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t2ndAv2004.jpg
Historic Aerials

The gasometers in the background were south of Slauson on S St Andrews Place. We covered them in post #22522.

HossC Oct 8, 2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

"9 Rare 1925 Photos of Movies Being Filmed on Los Angeles Streets California."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/tJNbCY.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...909/0Uzzos.jpgebay

Let's see how many of these locations we can identify. :)

#3, #4, #7 and #8 were all taken at the intersection of Hollywood Boulevard and N El Centro Avenue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

The Chandler and Cleveland dealer was Chester Bennett Motor Distributors at 6145 Hollywood Boulevard. As I mentioned in post #23941, Chandler and Cleveland were separate companies until 1926. The site is next to the current location of Pep Boys Auto which CityBoyDoug posted a picture of in post #23606.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

The building in the background with the vertical sign and the roof sign is the Guaranty Building at Ivar. The signs can be seen in a contemporary image in the USC Digital Library.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

The Hotel Regent was at 6162 Hollywood Boulevard. I posted a blurry 1940s aerial shot of the Hotel Regent in post #18421.

ethereal_reality Oct 8, 2014 11:10 PM

:previous: Good job Speedy. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6761315)
Here's the Division 5 yard in 1954, when Arlington Avenue dead-ended at W 54th Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t2ndAv1954.jpg
Historic Aerials


LARy Division 5 Administration Building, looking southwest across 54th Street, 1912.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/0WrXFl.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ve/2950257725/





below: Division 5's brand new car house, 1912

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/6EDnch.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ve/2951110866/

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ethereal_reality Oct 9, 2014 12:07 AM

...and now something a bit noirish.

WANTED

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/dYR48t.jpg
ebay


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CityBoyDoug Oct 9, 2014 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761457)
...and now something a bit noirish.

WANTED
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Don't worry ER, if I find him I'll keep him tied down to my four-poster bed until you get the capture reward. I did see him a few days ago. If he stops by here again, I'll get the drop on him this time for sure. I didn't know he was a wanted fugitive from justice. LA....such a wild town these days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps32fcf205.jpg
ebay

CityBoyDoug Oct 9, 2014 4:30 AM

Smash Up....
 
I don't know if this has been posted before. Good thing this did not catch fire.

1950s era...gasoline truck at the right side. The Industrial Pattern company building is still there located on Slauson and Long Beach Ave. 1655 E. Slauson....no name on building today.

.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps5c48a78c.jpg
file photo:(:(:runaway:

HossC Oct 9, 2014 2:13 PM

Another possible location ID for one of e_r's "1925 Photos of Movies Being Filmed".

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

The "USED CAR DEPT" sign on the left appears to say "W P HERBERT CO" underneath. In the 1926 CD they had this advert. It looks like they were yet another agent for Chandler and Cleveland cars. Their used car department was at 1702 S Figueroa. The address, just north of the Patriotic Hall, is now part of a Toyota dealership under the Santa Monica Freeway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...PHerbertCo.jpg
LAPL

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761177)

I've already identified a couple of buildings in the background of this picture, but I wanted to find the buildings in the foreground. Looking through the 1926 CD, I couldn't find anything listed at 6150 Hollywood Boulevard (the building with the "STAR" signs), although the 1921, 1923 and 1932 CDs all list car related businesses at that address (for anyone who's interested: 1921 - Schrader & Davis, auto repairing; 1923 - C A Opperman, automobile dealer; 1932 - J H Neaves J H Jr, used car dealer). The 1926 CD does have a listing for 6154 Hollywood Boulevard - the Hillcrest Motor Company. Here's a picture from 1927. A little of 6150 can be seen on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stMotorCo1.jpg
hollywoodphotographs.com

By 1929, the Hillcrest Motor Co was selling Cadillacs and La Salles from their new Meyer & Holler designed building opposite the Roosevelt Hotel at 7001 Hollywood Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stMotorCo2.jpg
www.you-are-here.com

This and other premises owned by the Hillcrest Motor Co have been discussed previously in post #6466 and post #11913. It's now clear that the unidentified last picture in Chuckaluck's post was taken at the 6154 Hollywood Boulevard address seen above. The missing picture from GW's post can be found here.

ethereal_reality Oct 9, 2014 3:26 PM

:previous: Excellent job as usual HossC. With your research the photographs become 100X more interesting.
I thank you for that.
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oldstuff Oct 9, 2014 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6761255)
"Photograph of Los Angeles plumbing supply company, the H.R. Boynton Co. flat bed delivery truck, with crew and freight, circa 1912."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/IM9OdS.jpg
ebay

The truck was made by the American Locomotive Co. (ALCO) which manufactured motor cars and trucks from 1906-1913 in Providence, Rhode Island. The photograph was taken by Nathan Lazarnick, a pioneer in the development of automotive photography in the early 20th Century. Lazarnick worked almost exclusively for ALCO in the early years.



below: Here is a post from way back in 2010 showing the Boynton House. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing this is the same family
that owned the plumbing supply company.

From census and other records, it appears that at least some members of the Boynton Family did live at 836 S. Bonne Brae.

Here is a bio of Mr Boynton:

Horace Rollin Boynton was born in Illinois in 1856. He married Mary L. Holmes in Morgan, Illinois in 1879. They had six children, which included a son named Horace R. Boynton, Jr.

They appear in the 1900 Census in Los Angeles with all six children. At that time, Mr Boynton' occupation was "Hardware Merchant". They lived at 2088 W. Adams, Los Angeles. This house is no longer there.

By 1910, Mr Boynton's occupation is listed as a merchant in "pipe supply". The family was then living at 1925 S. Figueroa. This property is now a Mercedes dealership. There is an entry however in a 1910 directory which lists Mary Boynton, a teacher, as living at the Bonne Brae Address. She is also listed in the Annual Report of the Los Angeles Public Library as being involved in their Science department.


Los Angeles Herald, May 3, 1908:
Business Changes Hands The A. H. Busch company and the H. R. Boynton company have bought out the J. D. Hooker company on Los Angeles street, between First and Second. ■ The latter concern ls one of the old time wholesale plumbing and steam supply houses of Los Angeles.

According to a mention of his death, in a book entitled Domestic Engineering, Vol. 52, Mr Boynton's business was located at 214-216 N. Los Angeles Street. It also notes that he had come to Los Angeles in 1898 and had become manager of the J. D. Hooker Company.

He died on September 12 and is buried in Angelus Rosedale Cemetery with his wife Mary, who outlived him by 29 years.

His obituary from the Los Angeles Herald, September 14, 1910:

H. R BOYNTON FUNERAL TO BE HELD TOMORROW
California Club Appoints Members to Bear Body of President to Grave
The funeral of Horace R. Boynton, prominent clubman and business man of Los Angeles, who died 1 while undergoing an operation at the California hospital Monday night, will be held at the First Unitarian church, Ninth and Flower streets, tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock. Mr. Boynton was president of the California club and the directors of that organization have chosen from among their membership I. B. Newton, N. H. Foster, Jud Saeger and John G. Mott, former close friends of Mr. Boynton, to be the pallbearers at the services. Rev. Stanton Hodgin will officiate.
In the twelve years that Mr. Boynton was actively interested in business in this city, both as manager of the J. D. Hooker company and as president of the H. P. Boynton company, he made a host of staunch friends, who will miss him as a business associate. In club circles he was equally successful. Shortly after being elected to membership in the California club he was made a director and three years ago his genial ways and goodfellowship won him the highest honor his fellow clubmen could bestow—the club's presidency, which office he held until hla death.
During his earlier days he was engaged in the banking business in the town of his birth, Waverly, 111., where he was born In 1854. When but 21 years old he was cashier of the county bank of Waverly, which position he held until he moved to Indianapolis. Moving to California twenty years ago he located In San Francisco, and for a long time he was the Pacific coast agent for the Western Tube company. In 1898 he came to Los Angeles as manager of the J. D. Hooker company. Seeing the vast Held for a wholesale metal house in this city he organized the H. R. Boynton company, one of the largest wholesale metal houses here, and as president of this company he was actively connected with it until his death. Mr. Boynton is survived by a widow and six children —three daughters, Mary, Julia and Bessie, who are at home, and three sons. The elder son, Horace R. Boynton, Jr., is a Yale student, while tha other two sons, Fred and Henry, are out of the city on a vacation.


Appearing in the Los Angeles Herald, September 15, 1910:
HORACE R. BOYNTON BY THE death of Mr. Horace R. Boynton there has been removed a personality whose consistent work for the upbuilding of the city of Los Angeles deserves more than passing mention. As one of the organizers of the Municipal league he gave of his time and ability to furthering the best interests of the city. He was one of those staunch, tried and true citizens who delighted in the advancement of Los Angeles along progressive lines, who believed in this city and her future, and who labored loyally and earnestly for her commercial greatness as well as for her progress toward honest government and civic cleanliness. Los Angeles can ill afford to lose such men as Mr. Boynton, and in acclaiming his worth The Herald but voices the sentiments of a host of citizens who honored him in life and now mourn his death.

After the elder Mr Boynton's death, a 1917 directory shows the company as having an office at 1002 Santa Fe Avenue and a showroom at 839 S. Los Angeles

ethereal_reality Oct 9, 2014 4:19 PM

:previous: Exemplary research oldstuff.



"Los Angeles LAPD Police Sheriff Patrol Car 57 Ford SHOOT OUT."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/K1wqri.jpg
ebay

I wish there was more information with this photograph. Notice the cars doing u-turns down the street.
The boy standing next to the officer at lower left seem dangerously close to the action.
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Retired_in_Texas Oct 9, 2014 4:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6761756)
I don't know if this has been posted before. Good thing this did not catch fire.

1950s era...gasoline truck at the right side. The Industrial Pattern company building is still there located on Slauson and Long Beach Ave. 1655 E. Slauson....no name on building today.

.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps5c48a78c.jpg
file photo:(:(:runaway:

I bet the accident report on the incident would make for interesting reading. Looks like something created by "special effects" for a disaster movie.


HossC Oct 9, 2014 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6758866)

Back in post# 13019, e_r posted an eBay find showing the Los Angeles Public Library in 1943. I wish it was a USC image so I could zoom in. I've had to make do with enlarging a small section and tweaking the levels. I can't read the sign, but it's obviously not the Berger's sign seen above. Having said that, the awnings, the gooseneck lights over the sign and the blade sign all look the same. I'm going to guess that Berger's was trading at 701 W 6th in the mid-40s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA701W6th4.jpg
Detail of picture found on eBay by ethereal_reality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick m (Post 6760013)

Squinting at this eatery sign- I betcha it reads: Italian Shaved Ice Cream-- Anybody concur ?

I concur on the "Ice Cream" part, and initially I also thought that I saw the word "Italian", but I think the second word is shorter than "Shaved". After doing my own squinting for a couple of days, my guess is "Golden State Ice Cream". I found pictures of a couple of billboards and neon signs from the '30s to the '50s which advertised a brand with that name. There was also the Golden State Company at 1120 Towne Avenue which appears under "Ice Cream Manufacturers" in the 1942 CD. Even if I'm right about the sign, it may not refer to either of these companies. I also think there's no connection with the current Golden State Ice Cream, Inc of San Jose. There was no location given for this image, but the date appears to be 1935.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...teIceCream.jpg
Duke University Libraries


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