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GaylordWilshire Jan 18, 2017 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7681657)
I found the Pollyanna Club in the CDs of the 1920s, which list the address as 324 Clay Street.

The 1922 CD has 324 Clay Street as furnished rooms belonging to Belle Corder. By 1923, 324 Clay Street is listed as Christian Mission (Pollyanna Club), which are furnished rooms managed by E W Campbell. The 1926 and 1927 CDs misspell the name as the Pollyana Club. In the 1928 and 1929 CDs, it becomes the Christian Mission and Industrial Association Pollyanna Club. The last mention of the Pollyanna Club or 324 Clay Street is 1930.

Here's the building on the 1921 Baist map, sitting above the American Legion. Now I'm wondering what the Electric College was!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...yannaClub1.jpg
USC Digital Library



Seems that the Baist draftsman heard the name wrong....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/af...V-A=w1366-h768


It looks like ads began appearing for the school in February 1920; this one was in the LAT on Feb 5, 1922

HossC Jan 18, 2017 4:20 PM

:previous:

Thanks, GW. The 1923 CD advert says they had two five-story buildings for classrooms and laboratories and one three-story building for the clinic and offices. I'm guessing that they're referring to the three buildings on the Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icCollege1.jpg
LAPL

Tourmaline Jan 18, 2017 4:27 PM



http://www.lapl.org/sites/default/fi...w/image001.jpghttp://www.lapl.org/sites/default/fi...w/image001.jpg



ER's recent kimono-images http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=39115 brought to mind curious similarities between a structure that houses the Japanese Diet and :previous: the Library Tower designed by Bertram Goodhue. Most folk seem to draw more obvious comparisons with LA's City Hall. Maybe comparisons are product of wishful thinking or pure coincidence.:shrug:

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The Diet Building was eventually constructed between 1920 and 1936] with a floor plan based on Fukuzo's entry. The roof and tower of the building might have been inspired by another entrant, third prize winner Takeuchi Shinshichi, and are believed to have been chosen because they reflected a more modern hybrid architecture than the purely European and East Asian designs proposed by other architects. While the actual source for the "Pyramid" roof remains unclear, Japanese historian Jonathan Reynolds suggests it was "probably borrowed" from Shinshichi although an image of the entry is not provided but instead he thanks fellow historian of Africa studies at Columbia, Zoe Strother, for mentioning that Shinshichi's design resembles the Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, which was a model for some prominent Western designs in the early 1900s, such as John Russell Pope's 1911 award-winning House of the Temple in Washington, D.C. and the downtown Los Angeles City Hall, completed in 1928. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Diet_Building


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...et_outside.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...et_outside.jpg


Others have mentioned similarities between various Government Structures/Towers, including the Dade County Courthouse, Nebraska State Capital and University of Texas, Austin - Library Towerhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14442


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11. Miami-Dade County Courthouse 73 W. Flagler St. Designed by A. Ten Eyck Brown and August Geiger, the courthouse was built around the existing 1904 courthouse. Constructed at a cost of $4 million, it opened in 1928. At 28 stories, it was said to be the tallest building south of Baltimore. For the next 35 years, it dominated the city and county’s skyline and housed both county and city offices, along with the jails of both jurisdictions. Brown, the lead architect, also designed the Los Angeles City Hall, which bears a striking resemblance to this building. The beautiful mezzanine has undergone a sensitive restoration as has Courtroom 6-1, the venue for many high-profile trials.http://www.miamiandbeaches.com/speci...cture-downtown

1962(?) Dade County Courthouse
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q_o51u24jF...courthouse.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q_o51u24jF...courthouse.jpg

odinthor Jan 18, 2017 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7681657)
I found the Pollyanna Club in the CDs of the 1920s, which list the address as 324 Clay Street.

The 1922 CD has 324 Clay Street as furnished rooms belonging to Belle Corder. By 1923, 324 Clay Street is listed as Christian Mission (Pollyanna Club), which are furnished rooms managed by E W Campbell. The 1926 and 1927 CDs misspell the name as the Pollyana Club. In the 1928 and 1929 CDs, it becomes the Christian Mission and Industrial Association Pollyanna Club. The last mention of the Pollyanna Club or 324 Clay Street is 1930.

Here's the building on the 1921 Baist map, sitting above the American Legion. Now I'm wondering what the Electric College was!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...yannaClub1.jpg
USC Digital Library

It's too bad that Clay St. lost its former name. "The Pollyanna Club on Polyxena" has a certain lyrical snap to it.

GaylordWilshire Jan 18, 2017 5:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7680306)

1927 - 542 S Figueroa - Dalton's
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~originalhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/23247

Permits indicate the structure began life as a livery stable (1906) and was transformed into a garage (1915) and eventually destroyed as part of highway improvement (1964).


As seen in the LAT 12-11-1927

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/em...P-A=w1366-h768


Something seemed fishy about Dalton's...all those different makes, "All Brand New—Never Run"-- where'd they come from? And so I wasn't surprised to find that Dalton was a shyster....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ag...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mi...pMQ=w1366-h768
LAT 6-12-1927 and 8-28-1928

Tourmaline Jan 18, 2017 5:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7681910)
As seen in the LAT 12-11-1927

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/em...366-h768-rw-no


Something seemed fishy about Dalton's...all those different makes, "All Brand New—Never Run"-- where'd they come from? And so I wasn't surprised to find that Dalton was a shyster....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ag...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mi...366-h768-rw-no
LAT 6-12-1927 and 8-28-1928

Not seeing GW's :previous: "googleuser" links or images. Could this be due to not using Chrome browser - or not signing in with Google?

Without the benefit of the above content, a cursory CD search revealed that in '32, someone named Dalton was offering auto loans at 543 S. Figueroa, 858 S Figueroa and possibly 1511 Vine Street.

GaylordWilshire Jan 18, 2017 5:48 PM

:previous:

Fixed those links...interesting though that I never miss a thing with Chrome.

HossC Jan 18, 2017 6:01 PM

:previous:

WEBP is a Google format that they're trying to impose onto the internet, so of course Google Chrome is going to show the images. WEBP does have its advantages, e.g. better compression/smaller files, but it's currently only supported by Chrome and Opera. That means that all of us Firefox, IE, Edge and Safari users can't see googleusercontent images unless the -rw-no is removed from the end of the image code. I have Chrome and Opera installed on my computer, but my preference is Firefox, and it's a pain booting up one of the other browsers just to see the images when there's a simple workaround. I appreciate that it's also a pain for googleusercontent users having to remember to alter the code of every image, but (in my opinion) the goal should be making every post accessible to every user. Just my 2¢.

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2017 7:59 PM

'mystery' location

I just found this photograph at the 'jalopy_journal' blog.

"Los Angeles, 1936"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/MdxtUE.jpg
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/

If you look closely there's a carhop holding a tray, wearing what looks like a 'gaucho' themed uniform.

I tried to find Hinton's Brake in the city directories without success. (I didn't realize how popular Hinton was for a first name)


but I did find this in the 1938 directory.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/28DMMA.png
lapl

Was there a Drive-In near 3636 Beverly Blvd. back in the day?



I also found a Rulo Rathbun, USCG stationed in Long Beach. (I included this just because I like his name ;))

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2017 8:03 PM

And here another mystery from Jalopy Journal.

"Hollywood, 1940"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/7rJl9t.jpg
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t....428585/page-3

This snapshot was no doubt taken at a movie premier or a grand opening (perhaps for the Chevy place in the background?)

There's a banner with writing to right of the Chevrolet sign but it's impossible to read. (for me anyway)

and who's Gordon War _ _ _(?)

HossC Jan 18, 2017 8:38 PM

Here's another Julius Shulman photoset showing a school with a zig-zag roof, although this design is more shallow. As you can see, the address is on the sign. This is "Job 3502: Glenn Arbogast, C. Morley Sellery School (Gardena, Calif.), 1963".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

A line of school buses and more of the roof detail.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Here's one of the classrooms. I've omitted a shot of the fence outside and one of the other classroom photos.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

The boys on the left seem to be at a work bench, and there's a loom in the middle, but what's the desk on the right with the small cutout used for?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

The last image shows the South Elementary District Offices - another building on the site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

This is what 15804 Budlong Avenue, Gardena, looks like today. There's even a long line of buses in this image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

The other building is on Magnolia Avenue, and also looks pretty intact.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

Tourmaline Jan 18, 2017 8:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7682150)
'mystery' location

I just found this photograph at the 'jalopy_journal' blog.

"Los Angeles, 1936"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/MdxtUE.jpg
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/

If you look closely there's a carhop holding a tray, wearing what looks like a 'gaucho' themed uniform.

I tried to find Hinton's Brake in the city directories without success. (I didn't realize how popular Hinton was for a first name)


but I did find this in the 1938 directory.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/28DMMA.png
lapl

Was there a Drive-In near 3636 Beverly Blvd. back in the day?



I also found a Rulo Rathbun, USCG stationed in Long Beach. (I included this just because I like his name ;))


When I hear "3636 Beverly Blvd.", American Storage springs to mind, as does Barkies' (down the street) and nearby Bimini Baths. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=37444 For clarity - American Storage is listed as "3634" in the '29 CD although the Storage "Building" is "3636" in the '36 CD. "3636" clearly had several businesses under the same roof. For example, the '34 CD lists Carbondale Machine Co. and Echo Drapery Studio (5th Floor) there. The '30 CD lists the Roof Garden Cafe, which arguably was above the roof. ;)



http://waterandpower.org/8%20Histori...orage_1928.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/8%20Histori...orage_1928.jpg



http://creepyla.com/wp-content/uploa...e4-632x959.jpghttp://creepyla.com/wp-content/uploa...e4-632x959.jpg



I recall seeing this image as part of the Life Magazine archives and wonder if we haven't seen it before (on NLA or another site).
http://www.dobrismodel.cz/wp-content...-life/auta.jpghttp://www.dobrismodel.cz/wp-content...-life/auta.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2017 9:24 PM

:previous: Yeah, I wondered if we had seen it before too, but I don't remember the 'gaucho' outfit.

(and surely that hat she's wearing would have made a lasting impression ;))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/nRjfLo.jpg
detail

Come to think of it, the hat resembles the circular Carpenter's and Simon's.









See what I mean

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/Xy8krE.jpg
Wilshire location http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17962

Tell me that doesn't look like her hat. ;)

__

Martin Pal Jan 18, 2017 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7682190)
Here's another Julius Shulman photoset showing a school with a zig-zag roof, although this design is more shallow. As you can see, the address is on the sign. This is Job 3502: Glenn Arbogast, C. Morley Sellery School (Gardena, Calif.).

Several (three) wheelchairs seen in the classroom photos, wonder why?

HossC Jan 18, 2017 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7682263)

:previous: Yeah, I wondered if we had seen it before too, but I don't remember the 'gaucho' outfit.

(and surely that hat she's wearing would have made a lasting impression ;))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/nRjfLo.jpg
detail

come to think of it, the hat resembles those circular Carpenter's and Simon's.

see what I mean :)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/Xy8krE.jpg

I found a copy of e_r's image on a Spanish blog called Drive-in 1936 a 1960, la vida desde el asiento de un automóvil (roughly "Drive-in from 1936 to 1960, life from the seat of an automobile", according to Google). The picture above it was this image which I believe to be Carpenter's at Sunset and Vine. The carhop uniform looks very similar, and, although there's very little information with the images, both are dated 1936 and attributed to Alfred Eisenstaedt.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
ibytes.es

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2017 9:43 PM

:previous: Good find Hoss! That's definitely the same outfit.

note the sign above the car on the left.............'Visit our Barbecue Pit - Wilshire"


Surprised the photographs were taken by Alfred Eisenstaedt.

HossC Jan 18, 2017 9:51 PM

:previous:

That's one of the details which makes me think that it's Sunset and Vine. Here's a detail I've posted before:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6357272)

I know there were several Carpenter's restaurants (the 1936 CD lists them at 6285 and 6290 Sunset Blvd., 667 S Western Av., 1250 S Vermont Av. and 3201 Wilshire Blvd.). The 1932 picture above includes an invitation to "Visit our barbecue pit at Wilshire and Western".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arbecuePit.jpg
Detail of image in USC Digital Library

My full post, with more Carpenter's pictures and menus, can be found here.

Martin Pal Jan 18, 2017 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7681519)
When I posted the Pershing Square slide last night I mentioned that the park looked quite lush at this point in time.
But what had slipped my mind, was that the majority of the plantings were along the perimeter of the park.
[...]
I don't believe we've seen this one either.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/HCl7JM.jpg
photo: Sean Ault Collection at https://sites.google.com/site/downto...s/metropolitan

So how long was this design in place?

Some earlier posts
Kodachrome slide, Pershing Square 1940?
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=33459
Ditto
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17295
Pershing Square Underground Parking construction
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16782
Pershing Square Redesign
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=30835



E_R, this is from the L.A. Parks website:

(1866)
Dedicated for use by Mayor Aguilar in 1866, this park land was named "La Plaza Abaja."

(1886)
In 1886, it was renovated with an official park plan designed by Fred Eaton.

(1911)
In 1911, the park was redesigned by John Parkinson to reflect the social and economic growth of the city.

(WWI / 1918)
During World War I, the Square was often the scene for militia receptions and provided a forum for public speakers. On November 8, 1918, the park was formally named Pershing Square in honor of the World War I general.

(1950's)
The next major change came in the 1950's, when an 1800-car garage was built beneath the park.

(1989)
In 1989, the Pershing Square Property Association and the Community Redevelopment Agency contributed to assist the Department of Recreation and Parks in the renovation of the park. Architect Ricardo Legoretta and landscapist Laurie Olin designed the current park plan, and the park was rededicated on February 3, 1994.

(For more history and walking tours, contact the L.A. Conservancy.)

______


In a return to it's history as "a forum for public speakers", I will be there at 9 a.m.
on Saturday, January 21st, for the Los Angeles offshoot of the Women's March on
Washington, followed at 10 a.m. by a march from Pershing Square to Los Angeles
City Hall.


For one near you: (men very much welcome, in case you were wondering)
https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2017 10:00 PM

:previous: Thanks for the time-line Martin Pal.

Good luck at the march!

CityBoyDoug Jan 18, 2017 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7682203)
When I hear "3636 Beverly Blvd.", American Storage springs to mind, as does Barkies' (down the street) and nearby Bimini Baths. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=37444 For clarity - American Storage is listed as "3634" in the '29 CD although the Storage "Building" is "3636" in the '36 CD. "3636" clearly had several businesses under the same roof. For example, the '34 CD lists Carbondale Machine Co. and Echo Drapery Studio (5th Floor) there. The '30 CD lists the Roof Garden Cafe, which arguably was above the roof. ;)

I recall seeing this image as part of the Life Magazine archives and wonder if we haven't seen it before (on NLA or another site).
http://www.dobrismodel.cz/wp-content...-life/auta.jpghttp://www.dobrismodel.cz/wp-content...-life/auta.jpg

Yes, this has been seen before. But the question is, what are these people doing in the backseat of this car? Any ideas? Besides that, what make car is this and what color? I think I've seen it before here on NLA.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psvhe3zta5.jpg
LIFE


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