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UChicagoLand Apr 4, 2016 9:14 PM

55th street is kind of a dead zone along there. With the garage and dorm both offering retail space, maybe it could turn into a livelier environment. I wonder if they might eventually upgrade that Jimmy's building into some kind of mixed use retail...

hammersklavier Apr 5, 2016 2:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 7394272)
I'm liking how universities located in cities are starting to have retail for their new dorms. Have seen this a lot in both MIT and UPenn. Definitely helps connect the dorm to the surrounding neighborhood and also offers a great places to study during the middle of the night :tup:

Dude, the new Penn dorm going up doesn't have ground floor retail. Which is a huge contrast to the Drexel dorm across the street that does. Soooo... :shrug::shrug:

Randomguy34 Apr 5, 2016 3:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 7394790)
Dude, the new Penn dorm going up doesn't have ground floor retail. Which is a huge contrast to the Drexel dorm across the street that does. Soooo... :shrug::shrug:

Hub 3939 isn't a UPenn dorm? I know the university leases the retail front. That being said, you are right that Drexel has done a lot with adding vitality to the streets of University City. The neighborhood has become an extension of Philadelphia's CBD with all the built and proposed offices and high rises. I should have given Drexel a lot more credit in my post.

Tom Servo Apr 5, 2016 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7372278)

Wow this is really fantastic

hammersklavier Apr 5, 2016 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 7394882)
Hub 3939 isn't a UPenn dorm? I know the university leases the retail front. That being said, you are right that Drexel has done a lot with adding vitality to the streets of University City. The neighborhood has become an extension of Philadelphia's CBD with all the built and proposed offices and high rises. I should have given Drexel a lot more credit in my post.

Ahh you're right. Penn has done a lot on 40th and Walnut. I was thinking of the one they're putting up right now. Interestingly enough, the guy who now runs Drexel ran Penn back in the '90s, when they put up most of their most urban stuff.

But this is a Chicago thread. ;)

UChicagoLand Apr 6, 2016 6:33 PM

City Hyde Park
http://chicago.curbed.com/2016/4/6/1...ark-apartments

UChicagoLand Apr 9, 2016 11:36 PM

I like the fact the fact that:
1) UChicago has been expanding the quads by closing streets
2) The University often doesn't hesitate to knock obsolete buildings down any more. Instead of building around them or trying to renovate them...

kolchak Apr 10, 2016 7:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 7394943)
Wow this is really fantastic

Agreed. That's a great finished product. Also its varied facade fits in nicely with U of C's diverse architecture. I love it.

the urban politician Apr 10, 2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7401995)
I like the fact the fact that:
1) UChicago has been expanding the quads by closing streets
2) The University often doesn't hesitate to knock obsolete buildings down any more. Instead of building around them or trying to renovate them...

Huh?

UChicagoLand Apr 12, 2016 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7402264)
Huh?

As someone noted above, the University is closing part of Greenwood to expand or make a quad by North Campus. previously, the University closed part of 58th street east and west of the Main Quads to, in effect, expand the main quad:

http://facilities.uchicago.edu/const..._enhancements/

In addition, instead of just building around existing buildings, such as the University did a while ago when they built Crerar and the Biological Sciences Learning Center, they are now routinely demolishing buildings to open up space--knocking down a million apartments in west campus by the Medical Center, knocking down Woodward Court, Pierce, Phemister Hall, the Post Office, the Research Institutes, etc., etc.

the urban politician Apr 12, 2016 5:25 PM

^ So you like the fact that University is turning its buildings into rubble? Also, closing streets reduces the connectivity of the city and often creates worse traffic in the areas around it.

And this is a good thing to you?

chicagogreg Apr 12, 2016 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7404874)
^ So you like the fact that University is turning its buildings into rubble? Also, closing streets reduces the connectivity of the city and often creates worse traffic in the areas around it.

And this is a good thing to you?

As a student, it's a good thing for me...

UChicagoLand Apr 13, 2016 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7404874)
^ So you like the fact that University is turning its buildings into rubble? Also, closing streets reduces the connectivity of the city and often creates worse traffic in the areas around it.

And this is a good thing to you?

Yes, when the building is an ugly, obsolete old eyesore. I also like the fact that in LA, where I live, they are knocking down ugly old strip malls and buildings and replacing them with more attractive mixed-use developments.

Greenwood and those parts of 58th street weren't exactly the Dan Ryan expressway. The gain in quality of life for pedestrians and the campus and community is much more desirable than maintaining a few blocks of asphalt and concrete.

In Europe often city centers have pedestrian-only zones and I like this sort of thing.

Jim in Chicago Apr 14, 2016 3:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7406756)
Yes, when the building is an ugly, obsolete old eyesore. I also like the fact that in LA, where I live, they are knocking down ugly old strip malls and buildings and replacing them with more attractive mixed-use developments.

Greenwood and those parts of 58th street weren't exactly the Dan Ryan expressway. The gain in quality of life for pedestrians and the campus and community is much more desirable than maintaining a few blocks of asphalt and concrete.

In Europe often city centers have pedestrian-only zones and I like this sort of thing.

Anyone who questions the closure of the part of 58th St. between University and Woodlawn really needs to take a trip down to see it. Visually stunning landscaping, and it ties together many campus buildings. 58th was a very minor street between 57th and 59th/Midway so likely not much missed by anyone.

Greenwood we need to see when completed, but here you have a secondary one-way street running into another secondary one-way street. Replacing that block of Greenfield with a cul-de-sac that serves the new residence hall and the existing parking garage seems to meet the needs very well. Another good chance to increase green space while doing very little to destroy the street grid.

ardecila Apr 14, 2016 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7404874)
Also, closing streets reduces the connectivity of the city and often creates worse traffic in the areas around it.

I go back and forth on street closures. It's really frustrating in certain Chicago neighborhoods where most streets are one-way, where one street closure can force drivers to make long, laborious detours or get lost. The city seems to grant carte blanche for street closures near schools, which I think is a terrible policy.

On the other hand, where I live in Pilsen most streets are two-way, and I love the street closures in my area, especially the plazas at 18th Pl/Paulina and 18th Pl/Leavitt where they are tied in with church buildings (feels very old world). Detours are relatively simple if you're driving and as a pedestrian, you can easily walk through without feeling like you're intruding on private property.

As far as the University of Chicago is concerned, that campus is still very well integrated with the city grid. It's easy to drive through and there is a clear hierarchy of design that helps you navigate. I can pass through that campus, again, without feeling like I'm intruding. The vast majority of urban college campuses are designed like impregnable fortresses, though. UIC comes to mind, where they put in so many damn closures it totally ruins the street grid.

UChicagoLand Apr 15, 2016 5:10 AM

Apparently there will be a Starbucks in the Target Express at Vue53, based on a notice the building posted on its Facebook page on Tuesday. I think that's the 5th Starbucks in Hyde Park.

ChickeNES Apr 23, 2016 12:40 AM

They have started demolition of Mott to make way for the new conference building.

UChicagoLand Apr 24, 2016 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7417904)
They have started demolition of Mott to make way for the new conference building.

Cool. Another example of getting rid of a bland building for, we hope, a new, improved building.

UChicagoLand Apr 26, 2016 2:54 AM

Mott Building demolition permit:

http://www.chicagocityscape.com/perm...?pid=100637387

ChickeNES Apr 29, 2016 8:29 PM

The Maroon is reporting that the Rubenstein Forum is supposed to start construction this year, and that a detailed timeline and renderings will be released in three weeks.

UChicagoLand May 1, 2016 7:07 PM

The Maroon article on Mott:

http://chicagomaroon.com/2016/04/29/...enstein-forum/

ChickeNES May 2, 2016 7:05 PM

The 53rd/Dorchester hotel proposal is on the Planning Commission agenda for this month:

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A proposed Business Planned Development submitted by Smart/Olympia Illinois LLC, for the property generally located at 1401-11 East 53rd Street. The site is currently zoned B1-3, (Neighborhood Shopping Districts) and the applicant proposes to reclassify the site to a B3-5, (Community Shopping District) prior to establishing the Business Planned Development. The proposal will allow a seven-story hotel with 100 hotel keys, accessory parking and accessory uses

UChicagoLand May 2, 2016 9:23 PM

More pics of Mott biting the dust:
http://chicago.curbed.com/2016/5/2/1...benstein-forum

UrbanLibertine May 13, 2016 2:37 PM

Renovation permit issued to put a Target into Harper Court

UChicagoLand May 14, 2016 5:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UrbanLibertine (Post 7440416)
Renovation permit issued to put a Target into Harper Court

I think you mèan Vue53:

http://www.chicagocityscape.com/perm...?pid=100633823

spyguy May 14, 2016 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7425701)
The Maroon is reporting that the Rubenstein Forum is supposed to start construction this year, and that a detailed timeline and renderings will be released in three weeks.

Not sure how accurate these are anymore, but came across these that might give an indication of the design:

http://s32.postimg.org/lv38cmm0l/15_...hwest_2000.jpg
http://s32.postimg.org/tp3ty0tth/Chi...es_MR_1800.jpg

Looks like it could be a nice counterpoint to the Logan Center tower.

If you're not already familiar, check out this Columbia University building also designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro.

UChicagoLand May 16, 2016 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7441625)
Not sure how accurate these are anymore, but came across these that might give an indication of the design:

http://s32.postimg.org/lv38cmm0l/15_...hwest_2000.jpg
http://s32.postimg.org/tp3ty0tth/Chi...es_MR_1800.jpg

Looks like it could be a nice counterpoint to the Logan Center tower.

If you're not already familiar, check out this Columbia University building also designed by Diller Scofidio + Renfro.

Hmmmm... It could also serve as an air traffic control tower for planes landing on the Midway.

UChicagoLand May 16, 2016 4:26 AM

If that's the design, it does seem to reference the Law School, SSA, and Logan Center...

UChicagoLand May 18, 2016 12:19 AM

I see Vue53 has been posting tours of some of the units on its Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/Vue53/videos/1598529560437696/

ChickeNES May 19, 2016 6:56 PM

Planning Commission APPROVED

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1fLkKWsAIuGYj.jpg:large

:cheers: :banana:

the urban politician May 19, 2016 7:49 PM

^ Awesome! Get her done

untitledreality May 19, 2016 11:36 PM

^^ That is very nice. Pleasant blending of complimentary facade types, high height all glass retail space, holds the corner, active uses on every floor, and it is replacing a surface lot. Great neighborhood development, I'll take another 100 iterations please.

marothisu May 19, 2016 11:59 PM

That's a good looking building.

UChicagoLand May 20, 2016 2:30 AM

Yes, I do like it now. It has a more sophisticated, urban look. Not some bland suburban holiday inn or Hampton inn look.

urbanpln May 20, 2016 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7447913)
Yes, I do like it now. It has a more sophisticated, urban look. Not some bland suburban holiday inn or Hampton inn look.

That is a nice looking building!

ardecila May 20, 2016 2:50 PM

Reminds me of some of the more traditional infill in the DC area. I like it! Good urban design.

UChicagoLand May 24, 2016 12:45 AM

Based on this rendering, I'm assuming they are knocking down that building that is currently between the alley and the parking lot, serving for the moment as a branch of UCPD (West side of the alley).

chikid May 24, 2016 4:49 PM

BTW if anyone is interested there is this cool event that is free that talks about the University of Chicago and how they are building and designing their campus buildings: http://www.microdesk.com/Education/E...Through-Design.

I think I am going to register myself. Anyone want to go?

UChicagoLand May 26, 2016 12:36 AM

The preliminary design for the Rube has been released:

https://news.uchicago.edu/article/20...benstein-forum

UChicagoLand May 26, 2016 1:15 AM

Once the Rube opens, I'm going up in the air traffic control tower and directing planes to land on the Midway.

UChicagoLand May 26, 2016 6:15 AM

Further details on the Rube:

http://www.designboom.com/architectu...go-05-25-2016/

Jim in Chicago May 26, 2016 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UChicagoLand (Post 7453777)

Opening up entrances to the North and South mirrors the approach taken for the Logan Center, which was to be more welcoming to the neighborhood to the south.

Actually, at first blush this building feels very much like the Logan Center in general.

Via Chicago May 26, 2016 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7448288)
Reminds me of some of the more traditional infill in the DC area. I like it! Good urban design.

it looks like a lot of the stuff going up in Fulton market. had to do a double take to make sure this was still the hyde park thread

wish all of the city would get stuff like this!

Jibba May 26, 2016 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in Chicago (Post 7454102)
Opening up entrances to the North and South mirrors the approach taken for the Logan Center, which was to be more welcoming to the neighborhood to the south.

Actually, at first blush this building feels very much like the Logan Center in general.

Yikes, certainly not the most elegant stack of volumes.

UChicagoLand May 26, 2016 8:36 PM

Well, at the very least, the Midway is starting to be a more interesting and exciting place buildingwise and activity wise (though that kind of a park right in the middle of campus is a beautiful resource in itself).

UChicagoLand May 26, 2016 8:39 PM

Since the University has shown it is completely willing to knock down obsolete buildings, I hope it will knock down two remaining eye sores: 1) that NORC / computation center / current Harris School building on the Midway and 2) the Admin Building.
Replace both with something more inspiring and uplifting for this gorgeous campus.

i_am_hydrogen May 27, 2016 6:46 PM

Diller Scofidio + Renfro


Planned for the southeast corner 60th and Woodlawn.
http://www.dezeen.com/2016/05/26/dav...go-campus-usa/

ChickeNES May 27, 2016 7:01 PM

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U. of C. Considering Replacing Old Hyde Park Day School With Hotel
Sam Cholke - May 27, 2016 8:11am - DNAInfo Chicago


At a Tuesday night meeting called by Ald. Willie Cochran (20th) to update the community on construction projects on and near the university’s campus, university officials said they are considering replacing the former Hyde Park Day School with a hotel.
Will Towns, assistant vice president for neighborhood initiatives in the Office of Civic Engagement at the university, said he would discuss plans for a hotel at 60th Street and Dorchester Avenue at the start of the meeting — and then never said another word about it.
...
University officials after the meeting said there were plans in the works to see if a hotel would be interested in the former Hyde Park Day School building to serve the nearby academic conference center the university is currently planning.
....
If a hotel is interested in the former school buildings, they would likely be demolished, according to university planners familiar with the hotel discussions.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016...ool-with-hotel

ChickeNES May 27, 2016 7:05 PM

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U. of C. presents development plans for south of 61st Street
Allison Matyus - May 26, 2016 - Hyde Park Herald
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According to William Towns, the assistant vice president of neighborhood initiatives at U. of C., the university had a previous agreement that they would not develop south of 61st Street. Towns said that based on community meetings and the feedback from those meetings, that there is no longer a ban on developing south of 61st Street.

The location for the university’s latest charter school will sit on 63rd Street between Greenwood and University avenues. The currently vacant lot will be a 70,000 square foot three-story school with a 50 percent green roof, garden areas and a full size football field.


According to Patrick Wilson, the project manager at U. of C., construction for the charter school will begin some time in June and the project is expected to finish by the winter of 2017.

The other projects consisted of the Keller Center for the Harris School of Public Policy that currently sits on the site of the New Graduate Residence Hall at 1307 E. 60th St. The Keller Center will provide space for teaching, research and events.

For this project, there will mainly be a focus on changing the interior of the building, while maintaining and preserving the Greek column-style architecture. The project will begin this November and is expected to be completed by August of 2018..



http://hpherald.com/2016/05/26/u-of-...f-61st-street/

UChicagoLand May 29, 2016 7:10 PM

What's the deal with the one brown stone directly north of the new hospital parking garage on 56th-57th Maryland--and the couple of units across the street? Are they people who wouldn't sell to the University or has their lease not expired or the University simply hasn't knocked them down yet?


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