NEW YORK | 74 Trinity Place | 424 FT | 27 FLOORS
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2013...trinity-church
New Residential Tower May Soar Above Historic Trinity Church http://assets.dnainfo.com/generated/...extralarge.jpg http://assets.dnainfo.com/generated/...extralarge.jpg By Irene Plagianos July 2, 2013 Quote:
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While I like the Cook + Fox proposal - the building they'd replace is quite beautiful - its a shame to replace it. I've had the chance to go inside it once as well, its got incredible interior spaces. I'd rather seem them convert the existing structure to condos - similar to the Walker Tower or something.
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I agree that it's a beautiful building and it would be too bad to see it go but the replacement would be quite a bit taller. It's 25 stories sitting on top of a 6-7 story base. We can also see in the rendering that the proposal is much higher than its neighbor to the south, while the current building is shorter...
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Yes I agree. And that old building got some pretty interesting structures on top which could be turned into awesome penthouses...
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I did not like. Both designs are weak to this place, even more to replace the building that is there today. But we'll see, I'll wait to see what will be done.
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The proposal would be for 7 floors of office and meeting space, topped by 25 floors of condos. Given the height of higher end new construction these days, that would be pretty tall. I have been in the existing building, and thought it was in poor condition. It looks good from the outside but interior is a mess. It's currently older office space above the Trinity Church offices. Though I don't quite get the zoning here. One would think you could build taller than 400-450 ft. on this lot. Who knows; maybe there aren't air rights available. |
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The circular crown in the lower left of the photo below (partially covered by "urban impressionist" is the building that would be replaced: http://www.urbanimpressionist.com/mi...-memorials.jpg |
It'd be a shame to see that building go. I rather see it be refurbished and sell any extra air rights to the AmEx proposal.
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A better view:
http://www.aviewoncities.com/img/nyc/sveus0404s.jpg There are so many crappy buildings in this neighborhood, sad they want to tear down one of the nice ones. |
Oh man, that is beautiful. I wonder if the parish is considering other options such as the air-rights transfer suggested above. My guess is, if they've solicited architects to do these proposals, they're pretty set on replacing the building.
I don't know that much about renovating really old buildings like that. Anyone know how those sorts of reno's would compare to new "class A" space, which it seems like the proposed new ministry space aspires to be? |
Quick overview of the building from google earth...
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http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6767
Upjohn One Upped Historic downtown church flexes its real estate muscles with new Pelli Clarke Pelli tower http://archpaper.com/uploads/image/trinity_tower_01.jpg Rendering of Pelli Clarke Pelli's tower. John Gendall 7.25.2013 Quote:
http://archpaper.com/uploads/trinity_tower_02.jpg (COOKFOX below) http://archpaper.com/uploads/trinity_tower_20.jpg http://archpaper.com/uploads/trinity_tower_21.jpg http://archpaper.com/uploads/trinity_tower_22.jpg |
Cookfox's design is much better, integrating the greenery that you would get at street level into the tower itself. The facade isn't too flashy either, in fact, judging from the rendering it compliments the area nicely.
But, they went with Pelli's wavy glass box. :yuck: |
Pelli's design is rather uninspired and boring...I hope they go with Cookfox's design it would create a modern marvel that would meld into the street wall perfectly.
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If I'm reading the article correctly, it seems pretty clear they chose Pelli. I like the Cookfox design better, but neither is a bad design.
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The Pelli design is simple and clean. While the other design might of been more radical, this is still a beautiful design.
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Pretty dull, not surprising coming from Pelli, but this won't be all that noticeable with 22 Thames, the WTC, and the other developments in the area. So all in all, pretty decent fill.
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So I guess the option of renovating the old tower is out the window... too bad.
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