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cruzin4u Mar 11, 2015 10:46 PM
TORONTO | The One | 1,077 FT / 328 M | 91 FLOORS
 
Address: 1 Bloor Street W.
Developer: Mizrahi Developments
Architect: Foster + Partners / CORE Architects

Just released renderings of 1 Bloor Street West (THE ONE).

http://www.candidbling.com/B_2TTeBUwAAmbPa.jpg

http://www.candidbling.com/5048-48920.jpeg

vegeta_skyline Mar 12, 2015 1:19 AM
Awesome! Our second supertall and its a Foster to boot :tup:

Zapatan Mar 12, 2015 1:28 AM
Niiiiice :cool:

scalziand Mar 12, 2015 1:57 AM
Helloooo, beauty.

M II A II R II K Mar 12, 2015 2:02 AM
And the rendering doesn't include the 80 floor Holt Renfrew proposed tower across the street.

Beedok Mar 12, 2015 2:23 AM
Are those indent things a balcony zone or not?

I hope they are...

NYguy Mar 12, 2015 2:33 AM

I would have guessed Foster or Rodgers without even reading.

yaletown_fella Mar 12, 2015 5:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beedok (Post 6947499)
Are those indent things a balcony zone or not?

I hope they are...
Sky gardens for what looks to be an upscale retail/office atrium

Or are you talking about the two indents in the upper portion of the tower? I dont think Id ever venture on to a balcony over 150 meters above the ground.

koops65 Mar 12, 2015 7:05 AM
Excellent looking tower, and hopefully shovels are in the ground quickly for this one.

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K (Post 6947480)
And the rendering doesn't include the 80 floor Holt Renfrew proposed tower across the street.
That proposal was scaled back a bit, to 71 floors, 230 metres. http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=57390

koops65 Mar 12, 2015 7:27 PM
$1-billion building: The proposal for a 80-storey T.O. tower: http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2276447

koops65 Mar 13, 2015 7:24 AM
A drawing of "The One" is now in the diagrams: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105731
Toronto diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=12

MolsonExport Mar 13, 2015 1:00 PM
Fuckn' A.
:tup:

Toronto is beginning to resemble NYC with it's downtown and (emerging) midtown CBDs.

Gresto Mar 13, 2015 1:46 PM
Exemplary work again, koops.

NYguy Mar 13, 2015 3:38 PM
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03...ional-respect/

Some screen caps...



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429204/original.jpg



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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429206/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429207/original.jpg



Reminds me of the Tower Verre here...


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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429209/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429210/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429211/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159429212/original.jpg

Innsertnamehere Mar 13, 2015 4:21 PM
that national post article is absolutely horrendous. To think that person actually gets paid to write crap like that.

Beedok Mar 13, 2015 4:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella (Post 6947717)
Sky gardens for what looks to be an upscale retail/office atrium

Or are you talking about the two indents in the upper portion of the tower? I dont think Id ever venture on to a balcony over 150 meters above the ground.
The residential area indents.

As for the height, Shangri La has them all the way up doesn't it? That's well past 150.

koops65 Mar 14, 2015 3:25 AM
Number One Bloor, across the street, will have balconies all the way up, to over 240 metres.

yaletown_fella Mar 14, 2015 5:17 PM
The renderings are stunning. My only complaint is the plain looking floor tiles. I'd also love to see a water feature in the atrium.

Fantasy: I'd love to see Mizrahi use the profits from this project to purchase another site around Bloor East and commission a more conventional Robert Stern tower (somthing around 200 meters tall) If that miraculously materialized, this would balance out the Yorkville skyline, perhaps even rivalling the Financial District.

TorontoDrew Mar 14, 2015 8:22 PM
How about right next to it where Scotia Bank sits?

yaletown_fella Mar 16, 2015 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 6950963)
How about right next to it where Scotia Bank sits?
Would love to see a curved tower with a 20 story podium at the corner of Balmuto and Bloor. I would hate to see buildings with stumpy podiums on bloor. It has the potential to become the greatest streetwall in Toronto. A streamline parisian style would look great there. I would love to see somthing like a taller version of the building on the northwest corner of Yonge and Ramsden Park, except with cafes, bars, and gelato shops lining the courtyard.

TorontoDrew Mar 16, 2015 1:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella (Post 6951867)
Would love to see a curved tower with a 20 story podium at the corner of Balmuto and Bloor. I would hate to see buildings with stumpy podiums on bloor. It has the potential to become the greatest streetwall in Toronto. A streamline parisian style would look great there. I would love to see somthing like a taller version of the building on the northwest corner of Yonge and Ramsden Park, except with cafes, bars, and gelato shops lining the courtyard.
Sounds good but lose the gelato. Kidding that would be great. I am looking forward to this tower though if it goes ahead. The ground floor renders look awesome, I feel the full tower renders do it no justice. It's built form will be spectacular. Up the with the TD Centre quality wise.

yaletown_fella Mar 16, 2015 7:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 6951912)
Sounds good but lose the gelato. Kidding that would be great. I am looking forward to this tower though if it goes ahead. The ground floor renders look awesome, I feel the full tower renders do it no justice. It's built form will be spectacular. Up the with the TD Centre quality wise.
I have a feeling the main design "flaw" (protruding box on the western podium) may actually be some sort of a rooftop restaurant patio. The view of Bloor and UofT in the distance definitely wouldn't hurt.

Austin55 Mar 16, 2015 8:21 PM
That is Immense, Toronto's skyline is really a beast these days.

TorontoDrew Mar 16, 2015 9:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Austin55 (Post 6952789)
That is Immense, Toronto's skyline is really a beast these days.

And growing fast. we currently have 55 towers over 100m/ 328ft u/c not including about 20 under excavation.

Compare that to places right now like Chicago with only 9 over the 100m mark or NYC with 23 it really goes to show how quickly our skyline is filling in. It's also been going at this pace for the past decade now with no real end in sight as the city is growing by 100k people each year.

TriWolf Mar 18, 2015 1:58 AM
Call me a pessimist, but I find this rather unlikely, considering the amount of NIMBYs in Toronto and how "averse to density" Toronto's city council is. It seems likely that this will either be chopped down to 250-200 meters or less, or outright canceled.

Gresto Mar 18, 2015 2:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriWolf (Post 6954573)
It seems likely that this will either be chopped down to 250-200 meters or less,
This is the probable scenario.

softee Mar 18, 2015 2:55 AM
^ You never know, city council has already approved the Mirvish-Gehry supertall, so a precedent has been set. This building's location is also much better suited for a supertall than M-G, being at a major intersection on two subway lines and directly across from another 250+ tower currently U/C.

WhipperSnapper Mar 18, 2015 4:12 AM
The extreme density proposed here will face some hurdles. Think the height should work though.

Innsertnamehere Mar 18, 2015 4:23 AM
They can get a height of 295m at least, That is the height that was originally approved for 1 Bloor East across the street.

yaletown_fella Mar 18, 2015 6:04 PM
I think one of the main hurdles will be the issue of congestion. An extra 25 meters of height is a non-issue imo.

isaidso Mar 18, 2015 7:34 PM
Agree, the primary issues regard Toronto making the adequate infrastructure investments to support the added population. Cities globally handle density levels 2-3 times higher than what we see in downtown Toronto. Buildings like theis only move us in that direction but we're hardly dense right now.

WhipperSnapper Mar 18, 2015 9:28 PM
There are very few cities that would allow the density proposed for the site. Some of last few comments are perplexing to say the least.

I don't see the relevance in the overall density of the downtown area to this specific site either. For instance, purchasing air rights is rarely done Toronto. It's just not needed with our pro development zoning and little bit of heritage.

NYguy Mar 19, 2015 2:32 PM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle23531447/

Toronto has finally found the confidence to act like a big city


http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/fd3...web-to-gee.JPG


MARCUS GEE
Mar. 18 2015


Quote:
When a developer announced last week that he planned to build what would be the tallest building in Canada on the southwest corner of Yonge and Bloor, Toronto seemed unimpressed. Many who wrote online comments about the proposal wondered why on earth this city needs yet another glass condominium tower, even a dramatic 80-storey one designed by the firm of celebrated British architect Norman Foster.

“Imagine all of the birds that will be killed,” said one. “The congestion, the sun block, the sheer ugliness of the structure adds another blight,” said another. “The Manhattanization of downtown Toronto is completely out of control,” said still another.

Toronto, it would seem, is still not altogether sold on tall buildings. This city is seeing a wave of high-rise development unlike any in its history. The most recent report from city officials says that no less than 91 high-rise buildings are under construction, the most for any North American city except New York, which is building 167.

The One Bloor condos, right across the street from developer Sam Mizrahi’s Foster-designed 80-storey proposal, will rise to 75 storeys. The two towers of the Harbour Plaza residences down by the waterfront will go to 66 and 62 storeys. Then, of course, there are the Mirvish-Gehry towers planned for King Street West that, while 92 and 82 storeys, would be shorter, measured in feet, than the Mizrahi building.

Toronto, grumbled one newspaper writer, suffers from an insecurity complex that forces it to prove itself by throwing up towers in every available space. That is one way to look at it. Another is that Toronto has finally found the confidence to act like a big city.

Back in the 1970s, Toronto was so fearful about density and development that city hall slapped a temporary 45-foot (13.7-metre) height restriction on new construction in the downtown core. Over time, planners have come to understand that if the region is going to absorb hundreds of thousands of newcomers without succumbing to endless urban sprawl, it will have to grow up rather than out. Now the boom in condo construction and the vogue for downtown living has made it possible to build a denser, livelier urban core. If central Toronto is starting to feel even a bit like Manhattan, it can only be a good thing.

The high-rise boom isn’t the Wild West free-for-all that many people seem to think it is. You can’t just slap together a glass box on any street corner. High-rise proposals go through months, more often years, of scrutiny. Officials look at how the building relates to the street around it, how much shadow it creates, what the developer is willing to contribute to the “public realm,” even what kind of materials the building will use.

Most high-rise construction is going just where planners want it: at strategic crossroads like Bloor and Yonge, Yonge and Eglinton and new South Core below Union Station that are well served by mass transit. We aren’t building forests of towers in the Beach or Little Italy.

“We’re growing. We’re maturing as a city. We are learning to do better tall buildings,” says David Pontarini of Hariri Pontarini Architects, designers of One Bloor. “For us it’s a never-ending educational process.”

That is true of the city, too. A dynamic, growing, modern city has to learn to be comfortable with tall buildings. Judged on much of the reaction to recent ones, it still has a distance to travel.

TriWolf Mar 20, 2015 8:47 AM
^ They say someone said this development will "kill birds"? What do they think birds are so stupid they'll fly right into the giant lump of steel and concrete that's right in front of their face? Or maybe the tower will grow arms and legs and start throwing rocks at the birds. This really does show the stupidity, paranoia, and thought process (or lack thereof) of NIMBYs

Gresto Mar 20, 2015 8:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriWolf (Post 6957947)
^ They say someone said this development will "kill birds"? What do they think birds are so stupid they'll fly right into the giant lump of steel and concrete that's right in front of their face? Or maybe the tower will grow arms and legs and start throwing rocks at the birds. This really does show the stupidity, paranoia, and thought process (or lack thereof) of NIMBYs
Large parts of the surface area are glass, and it is well-known that birds fly into glass skyscrapers, usually dying in the process.

KevinFromTexas Mar 20, 2015 8:56 PM
Oh, we've had several birds fly into our windows and bounce off. haha And they're not the least bit reflective.

Man, this tower looks good, but what it'll do for Toronto's skyline is even better. I forget sometimes how "deep" Toronto's skyline is. This is going to look amazing on the skyline.

BoM Trespasser Mar 21, 2015 12:07 AM
This is the most attractive skyscraper to rise up in Toronto in ages. Dozens if not hundreds of cheap condos built over the last couple of decades, it would be a refreshing change to see a tall 1st class building go up instead. As to birds, well you know, pet cats kill a lot of birds. But I'm not going around calling for the banning of cats. And the mention of that 45ft height restriction took me down memory lane, what a clanger that thing was, I don't think it lasted even as long as Joe Clark's government. Which was quite short-lived.

MolsonExport Mar 21, 2015 5:51 PM
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This is the most attractive skyscraper to rise up in Toronto in ages.
Agreed. Perhaps the best-looking proposal/built in Canada for the past two decades. It is a Norman Foster building.

Automation Gallery May 15, 2015 1:58 AM
There has been some changes with this One;

The bad, The diagrid structural system is now gone from the building
The good, The heritage facade of Hue's Kitchen is now being retained in the redesign, and the bldg. now has a new height of: 329.5 meters/1081 feet

Thanks to Innsertnamehere @ UT for the preliminary rendering

Zapatan May 15, 2015 3:34 AM
1081 feet? Nice

Toronto deserves it :)

sbarn May 15, 2015 1:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 6952888)
And growing fast. we currently have 55 towers over 100m/ 328ft u/c not including about 20 under excavation.

Compare that to places right now like Chicago with only 9 over the 100m mark or NYC with 23 it really goes to show how quickly our skyline is filling in. It's also been going at this pace for the past decade now with no real end in sight as the city is growing by 100k people each year.
This number is incorrect. I believe the current count for NYC of buildings over 100 meters under construction is 66 - of those, 22 are over 200 meters. This excludes 11 100 meter+ buildings under construction across the river in Jersey City.

That said, Toronto is booming and this building is a great addition.

koops65 May 15, 2015 3:02 PM
The SSC database shows 75 towers U/C over 100 metres, 22 of them over 200 metres.

Toronto has 52 towers U/C over 100 metres, 8 of them over 200 metres.

Toronto Diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=68477791
NYC Diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=68448570

tdawg May 15, 2015 5:48 PM
Yeah, that New York number is waaaaay off. Just check this list on the forum: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=216002 or New York Yimby's awesome list: http://www.yimbyforums.com/c/new-york
What's most impressive is that we 5 supertalls going up right now with 7 more proposed and likely.

Gresto May 15, 2015 7:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Automation Gallery (Post 7028051)
The bad, The diagrid structural system is now gone from the building
The good, The heritage facade of Hue's Kitchen is now being retained in the redesign, and the bldg. now has a new height of: 329.5 meters/1081 feet
The height increase is great, but the loss of the diagrid is very unfortunate.

yaletown_fella May 16, 2015 2:16 PM
It wont be iconic at all without the diagrid. Just another modern tower.

Wouldnt mind if Mizrahi switched to Stern.

MolsonExport May 17, 2015 1:52 AM
I like the diagrid. one of the rendering's best features, IMO.

NorthernDancer May 17, 2015 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 7028739)
Yeah, that New York number is waaaaay off. Just check this list on the forum: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=216002 or New York Yimby's awesome list: http://www.yimbyforums.com/c/new-york
What's most impressive is that we 5 supertalls going up right now with 7 more proposed and likely.
This thread is about a building in Toronto, troll. Keep your NYC discussions elsewhere.

Dwils01 May 18, 2015 1:52 AM
I don't think he is a troll.

He was just responding to someone else's comment about the number of buildings under construction in Toronto compared to New York City.
He was just giving references to get accurate information on buildings under construction in New York to get a better comparison to those under construction in Toronto.

Gresto May 20, 2015 2:27 AM
Yeah, the "troll" remark was way out of line.

Automation Gallery May 20, 2015 3:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gresto (Post 7032879)
Yeah, the "troll" remark was way out of line.
I agree


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