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CrestedSaguaro Oct 27, 2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixwillrise (Post 9086312)
Crested. Why are they shoring this up after the original construction? Was there a construction defect or did it have something to do with a future tunnel or something they were going to build to the old south side of the convention and decided not to? I vaguely remember something on this.

Sorry, just read your reply. I don't know much about the convention center, but I believe you are correct. The plan was to build an underground connection to the South Building, but that was scrapped. So they are replacing the temporary shoring with permanent shoring.

PHXFlyer11 Oct 27, 2020 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 9086503)
"Two-level Parking Garage providing approximately 430 spaces in approximately 203,244 gross square feet"

https://www.medistarcorp.com/in-development/

Maybe my brain isn't working, but on the web site it's clear this is underground. I know the page says that, but the comment just says "two-level" above so I felt the need to clarify, for my own sake.

PHXFlyer11 Oct 27, 2020 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by azliam (Post 9085502)
The procurement officer for the City of Phoenix Community and Economic Development Department emailed me back this morning stating that within the last year, the City Council has indicated it is not willing to sell/lease the South Convention Hall site without the means to replace the space.

Is that not consistent with the suggestions from the report we saw? I don't think it was an actual proposal, I believe it was a consultant's report that they are following. Let me know if I'm wrong...

AND I actually agree with that stated stance. Now is not the time to expand convention space, so I'm OK with waiting in hopes that we could get something really great down the road. I would love to see something like they have in many cities including San Jose where they have convention space that is attached to both a Hilton and Marriot. We have neither downtown right now, so that would be my ideal scenario, even if it's 5 years down the road.

TJPHXskyscraperfan Oct 28, 2020 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9087401)
Maybe my brain isn't working, but on the web site it's clear this is underground. I know the page says that, but the comment just says "two-level" above so I felt the need to clarify, for my own sake.

They have above and below ground parking.

ASU Diablo Oct 28, 2020 4:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TJPHXskyscraperfan (Post 9087609)
They have above and below ground parking.

Just below ground. See the website and the link Crested posted

PHXFireBirds Oct 28, 2020 6:23 AM

I think what would be extremely ideal and a win-win situation is the northern portion of the Southern Convention Center had two skinny towering hotels connecting with the Convention Center. Then the rest of that space could be the Coyotes' arena / multi-use arena. Which would build/legitimize our Sports Entertainment district.

Diamonddave Oct 28, 2020 12:42 PM

Living on the east valley would love to have the Coyotes downtown. Used to go to a lot of games when they were there. Only gone to about two since they moved to Glendale.

azliam Oct 28, 2020 1:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9087409)
Is that not consistent with the suggestions from the report we saw? I don't think it was an actual proposal, I believe it was a consultant's report that they are following. Let me know if I'm wrong...

AND I actually agree with that stated stance. Now is not the time to expand convention space, so I'm OK with waiting in hopes that we could get something really great down the road. I would love to see something like they have in many cities including San Jose where they have convention space that is attached to both a Hilton and Marriot. We have neither downtown right now, so that would be my ideal scenario, even if it's 5 years down the road.

I don't remember a report, but remember the Smithgroup renderings of two possible scenarios of hotel/residential or hotel/commercial if that's what you're speaking about.

ASU Diablo Oct 28, 2020 4:07 PM

Increased construction activity in downtown Phoenix could lead to shortage of develop
 
This is a good problem to have. Only place to go now is up

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Because of this new development, Macpherson said downtown Phoenix is beginning to see a “land challenge” as more of the easily developable parcels have already been built out. Now, “pencil development” with taller, skinnier buildings with a small footprint are becoming more common in downtown.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...ane-count.html

Code5 Oct 28, 2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 9087995)
This is a good problem to have. Only place to go now is up


https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...ane-count.html

I would be most happy with pencil development. Let's see some mini versions of what Manhattan is building. I'd love to see some badass height to width ratios and see what architects can come up with.

Diamonddave Oct 28, 2020 11:53 PM

Just out of curiosity does anyone know what's going on with the project on the northwest corner of Central and Indian School?

Sunsfan87 Oct 29, 2020 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Diamonddave (Post 9088581)
Just out of curiosity does anyone know what's going on with the project on the northwest corner of Central and Indian School?

This project has had 10 permits and plan reviews submitted within the last few weeks. Project number is 19-598 if you want to look them up on Phoenix development website. That’s all I know so far.

PHXFlyer11 Oct 29, 2020 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87 (Post 9088813)
This project has had 10 permits and plan reviews submitted within the last few weeks. Project number is 19-598 if you want to look them up on Phoenix development website. That’s all I know so far.

I'm assuming Northeast corned is paused indefinitely? It had alot of office space and would've been a hard sell there to begin with... now with Covid it's probably impossible.

Sean1187 Oct 29, 2020 3:27 PM

Here are a couple images of the U-Haul midtown campus conference and fitness center and a view of downtown Phoenix, where you can see the Link phase 2 and the crane for the Derby.


YourBuddy Oct 31, 2020 7:22 PM

https://youtu.be/bXbqgLQ1v6k


Couldn’t get the YT link to work, but here is a driving tour that shows off the progress on construction.

Diamonddave Nov 1, 2020 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9089093)
I'm assuming Northeast corned is paused indefinitely? It had alot of office space and would've been a hard sell there to begin with... now with Covid it's probably impossible.

Wasn't that project called Park Central?

combusean Nov 1, 2020 1:47 AM

The Central Park...they have until February to apply and pay for permits.

Diamonddave Nov 1, 2020 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 9091449)
The Central Park...they have until February to apply and pay for permits.

Thanks for the clarification. We've see the renderings it is a massive project. Lets hope their still in the game.:tup:

Obadno Nov 5, 2020 3:15 PM

Astra Approved:

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...-approved.html

A tower that could soon be Arizona's tallest building received final approval Wednesday from Phoenix City Council.

Council approved an amendment that will allow Aspirant Development, a division of Scottsdale-based Empire Group, to build a mixed-use project, called Astra Phoenix, that will include a tower reaching 535 feet at its highest point — surpassing the state's tallest building, the 483-foot Chase Tower on Central Avenue. A second planned tower would reach 380 feet. Apartments and a hotel are proposed for the towers.

Astra Phoenix is planned on 2.8 acres in downtown near Second Avenue and Van Buren Street. The site is currently a surface parking lot and is adjacent to the Downtown YMCA.

On Wednesday, Council also approved realigning the Taylor Street pedestrian paseo through the project between the two towers.

Solomon Cordwell Buenz is the architect of the mixed-use project.

In a panel discussion hosted by the Phoenix Business Journal in September, Nick Wood, a partner at Snell & Wilmer, the zoning attorney for the project, said activity in downtown Phoenix has put the city on the map for capital markets looking for places to invest.

“Phoenix has become a mainstream name when it comes to high-rise development,” he said at the time. “With all of the investment that has been made by the city and state in downtown, it has drawn high demand.”

Phoenix has seen an influx of high-rise construction in recent months, with several apartment and hotel projects under construction. There were 16 tower cranes over Phoenix’s Central Business District in the third quarter of 2020, an increase from nine in the first quarter, according to the latest Rider Levett Bucknall crane count, which tallies tower cranes in major cities in the United States and Canada.

Diamonddave Nov 5, 2020 3:30 PM

Question hasn't Garfield House on the same agenda yesterday?


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