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And the push for the Circle Line is on.
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Speaking of the Circle Line, where does it stand? I know they did the Alternatives Analysis in 06 and had narrowed down the route options, but I thought they were going to recommend exact route and whether it would be heavy rail, light rail or rapid bus. Has the funding crisis stopped the process in its tracks?
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The last proposal I saw would be heavy rail that ties into the rest of the train system. The first stage (Paulina connector rehab) is already complete and in service for the Pink Line. The most expensive part will be the final subway leg up Ashland and over to North Ave/Clybourn. Taking the Brown Line underground to link up with the new Clybourn station probably won't be cheap either. I would also think the feds would have to cover some new rolling stock as well. |
With Kruesi gone, common sense may prevail and the Circle Line will quietly disappear.
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^ Maybe Mr. Downtown won't find a use for it, but those of us in the neighborhoods outside of downtown look forward to it greatly.
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Phase III involved building a new elevated Brown Line station at Halsted with a connection to the subway station. |
In response to miketoronto's idea, there actually was a pretty serious planning effort about 4-5 years ago in regards to how to better connect the I-90 employment corridor to the regional transit network. Basically, this meant Pace studied BRT, Metra studied DMU commuter service, and CTA studied Blue Line extensions. The CTA service had far-and-away the highest ridership (but of course the greatest cost). The service would have operated at 70mph and taken between 15-18 minutes O'hare-Schaumburg Convention Center; if the Blue Line south of O'hare were also upgraded to 70mph, these are still reasonable travel times, particularly in the peak period when I-90 and I-294 are a mess.
Of course, we all know that somehow the region settled on Metra's STAR line concept, for reasons most people can't figure out (since even Pace's BRT "J-line" solution, connecting O'hare, Rosemont, Schaumburg, and Oakbrook via BRT, was projected to have much higher ridership at lower cost). |
Was the 70 mph limit ever reached on the O'Hare Blue Line? If not, was it just for equipment/safety reasons?
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I'm not sure there is sufficient track length over Halsted to construct a station that will accommodate the upcoming 8 car Brown Line service. |
Not directly transit related, but rather showing us where our state places priorities for transportation projects. $480 million for an uneeded, duplicative interchange.
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This interchange is ridiculous. Out of the full complement of ramps (8) they only really need 4 (SB 57->SB 294, NB 294->NB 57, SB 294->NB 57, SB 57->NB 294). These 4 ramps shave 6-12 miles off trips. Unfortunately, 2 of them require costly flyovers or speed-reducing cloverleafs.
Any of the other 4 ramps would cut less than a mile from any journey. If they want full connectivity, then the best way to do it is to build a 294 entrance at 147th. People switching highways can exit at 147th, drive 0.6 miles to the interchange at the other highway, and get on. Hell, they even could do a ton of improvements to 147th to make it limited-access for that 0.6 miles (removing two stoplights and widening), and still spend less than $480 million. |
$480 million is appalling. I don't really have a stinging remark or anything. I'm sort of in shock. DISGRACEFUL.
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Study: Ill. Amtrak line could draw 111K
| 08 Jan 2008 | 07:10 PM ET CHICAGO (AP) - Train feasibility studies don't normally elicit much excitement from casino executives like Bill Renk. But an Amtrak report released this week gives casino operators in Illinois plenty of reason to smile, concluding that a proposed passenger-train route between Chicago and the Quad Cities could carry 111,000 riders a year. Many of those riders would likely be Chicago gamblers heading to casinos along the Mississippi River, the study concludes. "We're very much delighted," Renk, vice president for sales and marketing at the Jumer's Casino Rock Island, said Tuesday. "What this would do is put us in a good position to expose Chicagoland to what the Quad Cities have to offer." There's also good news for longtime advocates of a Chicago-Quad Cities line who feared the project might be too pricey. The upbeat study estimates costs of upgrading existing track for passenger-train use at between $14 million and $23 million -- lower than earlier estimates of around $30 million. State operating costs would run about $6 million a year, it says. More at link: http://www.cnbc.com/id/22562432/ |
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It's been in the works for 20 years though, you don't plan for something that long and not build it. I take it most of the benefits for the new interchange would be seen by truck traffic. The fewer local roads trucks are forced to use, the better. One complaint I do have though is that if they're going to spend money on updating the expressway/tollway system, they need to modernize existing interchanges by eliminating cloverleafs, such as 90/290 in Schaumburg and the Hillside Strangler. 294/55 could also use some work. |
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And I have a grandfather in Moline who's too old to drive to Chicago now, and an Aunt who always gets lost, a train is a great option. There's also the Augustana College students. The article also mentions the posibility of extending the line to Iowa City. That makes the most sense of all. Lots of Chicagoland kids go to college at the University of Iowa |
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^ yeah, definitely. If you go by bars alone, two of my favorites are "hawkeyes" bars (right in wrigleyville and little italy)
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anyways, so when is the big vote gonna happen today? i'm on tenterhooks here after a day of emailing and calling and checking google news and local news sites. ps that interchange story is sickening. |
One would hope there would be some sort of cost-effectiveness analysis weighing, say, the aggregate time savings and other benefits allowed by a $480 million interchange compared to the benefits of, say, an equivalent investment in mass transit. I would hazard a guess that more people are delayed for more time on the north branch of the Red Line than are delayed because of the absence of that interchange.
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I've never noticed huge issues on the 90/294 cloverleaf in Schaumburg. Construction on IL-53 has caused some congestion near the southbound exit to Algonquin Road, but that's about it. |
oddly buried on the trib home page considering how much news this issue has generated:
House passes mass transit funding plan Link, Chicago Tribune |
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Transit-aid legislation hits bumps Link, Chicago Tribune Basically, the original bill passed by the House came up for a vote in the Senate and fell one vote short of passing. As a personal gripe, I offer this quote from the article: Quote:
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as frustrating as the state dems have been, the repubs have been just as revolting. |
Yeah Tom Cross (R) is Dennis Hasterts sock puppet FWB. What he means by "Illinois other transportation needs" is the Prairie Parkway freeway.
If you really want to get sick check out the IDOT web page for project planning; There is a plan for a 4 lane highway connecting Peoria to Macomb (pop. 18,000) A 60 mile- $640 millino dollar project. http://www.peoriatomacomb.com/ Or the "Gateway Connector" project. Which is bassically a 3rd ring road FREEWAY around the Illinois side of the the St.Louis metro. Meanwhile Chicago still does not have a completed 2nd ring and ours are tollways. http://dot.state.il.us/gateway/maplink2.shtml But the best is the 209.5 mile route that would eventually link Davenport,IA to Alton,IL by a four lane freeway. Est cost $1.295 billion not including the 58 mile section between Jacksonville and Alton. http://dot.state.il.us/us67/Map.html I would love to see them complete those projects with Zero dollars from the Chicago 6-7 county region. |
In other news with Springfield gridocked:
EJ&E railway plan met with protests http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=110309&src=12 Barrington is up in arms it seems. And this is moving past NIMBYism. Rep. Don Manzullo objected, as did my Congresswoman, Mellissa Bean, who is from Barrington. The big guns are getting involved. But this line from the article was telling: CN intends to move freight trains from some of its more congested lines to the EJ&E. Overall, the changes mean 34 towns will see more freights and 80 will see fewer. But the communities this benefits aren't the rich exurb sprawl communities, so it's not going to matter that this is an overall good for the region. |
^ What's the best cure against NIMBIES? A taste of their own medicine. Bwahahahahahahaaa!!!
Railway deal opens up debate on noise, traffic Switching tracks to skirt Chicago irks some suburbs By Richard Wronski, Tribune staff reporter. Freelance reporter Robert Channick contributed to this report January 10, 2008 The proposed sale of a short-line railroad whose tracks arc around the Chicago area, from Waukegan to Gary, threatens to pit suburb against suburb in a battle over noisy and congestive freight train traffic. On one side of the tracks, so to speak, are those who bitterly oppose the purchase, fearing it will bring more trains, noise and blocked grade crossings to their communities. On the other are those who see welcome relief from the never-ending line of freight cars that already tie up vehicle traffic in their towns. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...ck=2&cset=true |
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It' almost disturbing how many people from the Chicago area are in Iowa City. I actually see people in Iowa City walking around with shirts that say "Welcome to Iowa City, the westernmost suburb of Chicago". As it stands now around 11,000 students at Iowa (34%) come from Chicagoland. There have also been many thousands of people from the inner city of Chicago that have moved to Iowa City during the past 5 years, because of all the public housing in Chicago being torn down. The local paper said during an 8 month period of 2007, over 300 new students from the city of Chicago started going to school in Iowa City. As of 2008 school year, around 8% of the students in the local school district are from the city of Chicago. In 2000 that number was 0%. I think they could get a very high ridership between the thousands of Iowans who moved to Chicago after college, the college students from Chicago going to school in Iowa City, and the new transplants who might opt for a cheaper train ride than driving cars back and forth to Chicago. |
So do you think they'll actually fix this by Jan. 20th? I just can't imgaine them actually going through with the cuts, the city would go into chaos. I know I wouldn't be able to get to work without the #11 Lincoln, the #76 Diversey, and having the Diversey brown line shut down.
I'd have to walk 20 minutes to Fullerton, and then fail to board any of the horribly overcrowded trains that come through there. Hell, I normally have to wait through 4 of them as it is....yesterday the platform was so crowded I sat for 4-5 minutes before even getting up the stairs, let alone on a train. |
I am confident that a transit funding bill will be passed at some point.
I don't understand how downstate thinks is is a Chicago power grab. The sales tax increase would have been for Chicago and its suburbs. It would have in no way effected downstate. But yet they voted against it. I am getting tired of them. |
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Everyone in Springfield wants their share of the bacon to bring home for the re-election effort. They especially don't want to be the only one without bacon, when everyone else is getting some. One Senator's holding out for a bigger bribe. |
so would these down state senators vote for a sales tax increase on the whole State or is on on the shoulders of metro Chicago?
The latest proposal, the tax increase, was for metro Chicago only. |
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Lawmakers send transit funding to governor
Link, Chicago Tribune Please, please, please call the governor's office! (217) 782-6830 Edit: I guess it is not quite a done deal. New provision for DuPage Co. may hold it up in the House, but if they only need a simple majority, I pray it still passes. Then what Blago does is anyone's guess. |
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I've just jumped off the secession bandwagon because now I've got a better idea: Move the capital to Chicago and make those porkers suffer. |
So anyone think BagofAir will screw this one up? Or will he finally heal?
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has he mentioned this before today? what the hell is this????????????? |
he sucks, there is no other way around it. Asks law makers for this and that. They provide it then he changes the rules again and won't sign the bill. Then you got downstate to contend with.
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That's it, I'm registering to vote in Illinois specifically so I can vote AGAINST that dumbass Blagovich...
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He's signing it...
http://www.wbbm780.com/Blagojevich:-...ailout/1457370 "Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Thursday he'll sign a measure increasing Chicago-area sales taxes to pay for metropolitan mass transit systems sent to him by the state Legislature" |
no he isn't until his provisions are met.
The link is from an AM Radio Station that was last updated before the gov refused to sign the bill. The Tribune is up to dat. |
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