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oldstuff Jan 27, 2017 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7691040)
Here's another pic. from 1954.

Have anyone heard of the Finn twins before?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/ozc0IC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Press-P...4AAOSwEzxYcD36

"George and Charles or Charles and George." lol

George and Charles Finn were born in San Francisco on February 28, 1914. They went to college and then enlisted in the US Army prior to WWII at the Presidio of San Francisco and served in the Army Air Corps. George was a Flight Instructor and Charles was a pilot for a B-17. Charles flew 63 missions in Europe, according to an article in the LA Times at the time of Charles' death in September of 1986.

They remained in the Army and flew in the Berlin Airlift. After the Army they wanted to start an airline and purchased a surplus C-46 from the Bakersfield School District. The Government maintained that the school district did not have the right to sell the plane and thus ensued the "battle with the Government".

George Finn died in 2002. Both are buried in the Golden Gate National Cemetery.

HossC Jan 27, 2017 8:12 PM

The sign tells you exactly where this Julius Shulman photoset was taken. It's "Job 2543: Pereira & Luckman, Disneyland (Calif.) Hotel (Anaheim, Calif.), 1958".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

To me, this side of the building looks like an unfinished retail unit.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Here are some of the hotel shops. These photos were taken a couple of years before the monorail was added.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

The pool.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

A closer view of the two-story guest accommodation.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

This appears to be a garden area.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

Sadly, this is the only interior shot.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

And this is the only color shot.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

You can read more about the Disneyland Hotel in a couple of articles by Don Ballard. The early days are detailed in Design & History of the Disneyland Hotel California: 1955 - 1965, while the hotel's demolition in 1999 is covered by The End of the Original Disneyland Hotel. Apparently, Disney didn't take ownership of the hotel until 1988. Here's an early illustration.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
Donald Ballard/www.designingdisney.com

ScottyB Jan 27, 2017 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7691980)
The entrance seems to have been extended. This detail even shows the well in the courtyard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Detail of picture above.

thanks HossC, interesting to see that the well is visible; makes me wonder if was a functioning well at one time or merely a decorative touch. I think the building with the flag on it just below the courtyard in the picture is the one featured in the last photo I posted. This was the front of "Negro Alley", yes? I wonder if the crumbling portico was perhaps part of the original adobes. -Oh, I see now that is the addition you referred to, Hoss.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/QLkseE]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/719/32...8508a14e_z.jpg

John Maddox Roberts Jan 27, 2017 8:57 PM

When I was a kid you could get from the park to the hotel and vice versa by monorail. Probably the only hotel in America thus serviced.

KevinW Jan 27, 2017 10:28 PM

Just logged back on for the first time in years. I love all the new material. Keep up the good work everybody.

KevinW Jan 27, 2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7685270)
A couple of days ago I promised to try and find the missing images to reconstruct KevinW's post. Including the color image, there are 21 altogether, so I limited the width of the replacements to 1000px wide. Having said that, all the USC images have updated links to the zoomable versions. I know the panorama about halfway down comes out very small - I'll post a larger version of that separately. All of the text is unedited from the original post.


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Here's a nice overview of the Square:

Pershing Square
Historic Background

The text below is excerpted from a 1993 brochure by the Los Angeles Conservancy entitled "Pershing Square Landmarks: A walking tour sponsored by the Los Angeles Conservancy." 1986, revised 1993. The original text was written by Steve Fader, and the publication of the brochure was made possible by a grant from the Community Redevelopment Agency. Do not reproduce information from this site without acknowledgement of the authors of the original document, or of the authors of this site.

For years the square was a dusty vacant parcel known as block number 15 in Ord's Survey of Los Angeles. However, in 1866, an ordinance was signed by Mayor Aguillar declaring the block "...a public square for the use and benefit of the citizens of the common." The square was designed as a formal Spanish plaza and became known as La Plaza Abaja.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
Flickr

By 1887 the area around the square was becoming residential, and the new residents referred to the square as Los Angeles Park. Cypress and citrus trees were planted and a white picket fence was constructed to discourage stray livestock from entering the park.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Here's a view down Olive:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In the early 1890's, the park was renamed Central Park. It was redesigned by Fred Eaton, then a City Engineer and later Mayor. A serpentine promenade, wooden benches, new plantings, sidewalks, and a bandstand were provided.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In 1911 the park was again redesigned, this time by the noted architect John Parkinson. The design was formal and symmetrical, with European antecedents. There were classic walkways within the square, a beautiful central fountain, lush plantings, and ornamental corner balustrades. The perimeter walkways around the park, which has been an important component of the Central Park in the early 1900's were maintained by Parkinson.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

The view East on Hill in 1913:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In 1918, "in a fit of Armistice Day fever," Central Park's name was changed to Pershing Square, and a statue of a dough boy was added to the corner of the park.

Here's looking up Hill in 1920:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

One of the last shots of St. Paul's Episcopal Church before it was replaced by the Biltmore. I wonder what the cranes in the background are for?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Most of the buildings on or near the square were built in the 1920's and early 1930's. During this period the Square was widely known for its colorful orators, military posts, and newsstands. Even the public library set up shop here.

The Biltmore, shortly after being built:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Birdseye view of Pershing Square looking southeast from the corner of 5th Street and Olive Street, Los Angeles, ca.1926

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

View of Pershing Square looking west on Hill Street and 6th Street, Los Angeles, ca.1926

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Tropical plantings were added to the park in 1928 by Frank Shearer, the Park Superintendent.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

As early as 1928, there were suggestions to put a parking facility under Pershing Square. The intended purpose was to alleviate congestion downtown, and later, to revive the ailing Broadway Theater District.

The Title Guarantee and Trust building, which still stands, was built in 1930:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In 1938, the Philharmonic Auditorium got a Deco makeover:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

In 1950-51, after two decades of pressure, the City permitted construction of an 1800-car garage under Pershing Square. The park became a roof of grass. Automobile ramps on each side cut off the park from the surrounding city, making the square into an island, difficult to approach.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

[In 1994] world-renown architect Ricardo Legoretta and equally celebrated landscape architect Laurie Olin have designed the square to be a vibrant gathering place and a signature public area for downtown Los Angeles.

The redesign was financed in part through the Pershing Square Property Owners Association together with a matching grant of funds from the Community Redevelopment Agency of Los Angeles.

The following are landmark buildings around Pershing Square:

* Subway Terminal Building, 417 S. Hill, 1925, Schulz and Weaver. Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #177. Another view of the building.

When the Subway Terminal Building was built, the Los Angeles basin was serviced by over 1000 miles of Pacific Electric inter-urban railway lines. The Terminal Building was constructed over the underground portal of lines to the San Fernando Valley and the Westside. The original grand concourse was severely damaged by an office renovation in the 1950s.

The Terminal building itself is one of the few Los Angeles office blocks from the 1920's to have a granite exterior. Its design derives from a 15th century Florentine palazzo.

* Title Guarantee and Trust Building, 401 W. 5th St, 1930, Parkinson and Parkinson. Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #278; listed in the National Register of Historic Places.

This is an Art Deco building with Gothic elements. The lobby has murals by Hugo Ballin celebrating the Treaty of Cahuenga and the La Brea Tar Pits.

* Oviatt Building, 617 S. Olive St, 1927-28, Walker and Eisen. Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #195. Panorama of Olive and 6th Street, 1912, before the Oviatt.

Combining Romanesque and Art Deco design, the 13-story Oviatt Building is one of Los Angeles' most celebrated landmarks. Built by James Oviatt, it housed Alexander and Oviatt Men's store and a luxurious 2-story, 10-room penthouse apartment for Mr. Oviatt.

Oviatt, captivated by the new Art Deco style, which he had seen in Paris, commissioned Rene Lalique to design and fabricate all the decorative glass. Most of the Lalique glass filling the ceiling of the marquee lobby has been removed.

Extensive renovation and restoration of the Oviatt Building was undertaken by Los Angeles developer Ratkovitch and Bowers and architect Brenda Levin in 1976.

* Heron Building, 510 W. 6th St., 1920-21, Dodd and Richards.

The Heron Building is a 13-story Renaissance Revival building.

* Pacific Mutual Building, now known as the Pacific Center, 523 W. 6th St. Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #398.

Original building, 1908, Parkinson and Bergstrom
North Side addition, 1916, William J. Dodd
West Side addition, 1929, Parkinson and Parkinson
Moderne remodeling, 1936, Parkinson and Parkinson
Twelve-story structure, 1921, Dodd and Richards
Garage Building, 1926, Schultze and Weaver.

The Pacific Mutual building is actually three interconnected buildings built between 1908 and 1929. The building was renovated by Westgroup, Inc. in 1985.

* Biltmore Hotel, 515 S. Olive St., 1923, Schultze and Weaver. Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #60.

When opened in 1923, [the Biltmore] was the largest hotel west of Chicago, with 916 rooms. Many of the luxurious interior banquet rooms of the Biltmore were decorated by Giovanni Smeraldi, an Italian muralist. [The Biltmore's] exterior is classic Renaissance Revival.

The Biltmore has undergone two major renovations. In the mid-'70s, Phyllis Lambert and Gene Summers reversed years of decay with renovation that received a National Trust Honor Award in 1981. Westgroup, Inc bought the hotel in 1984 and did extensive renovation, as well as adding an office tower.

Compiled by Ruth Wallach, USC libraries. 10/1999.

So here are four early photos of Pershing square looking south. The first was taken around 1880, it's amazing how little was in L.A. at the time.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

The next was taken just eight years later in 1888. The church at the future site of the biltmore, which was built in 1923 is now visible as are three or four other churches. I'm always amazed at the number of houses of worship in old American cities.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

And now in 1909 the city was really starting to sprout up behind it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Then just four years later in 1913.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

And here's a little history about the garage underneath:

http://blogdowntown.com/2010/01/5047...re-garage-idea

and here's a nice link to the history of the Philharmonic Auditorium:

http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...uditorium.html


Thank you for this HossC! We can only hope that the park will return to it's friendly origins.

MartinTurnbull Jan 27, 2017 11:33 PM

Various McDonnell's restaurants, circa mid 1930s
 
I was recently contacted by a woman who is researching her family’s history. In 1935, her parents borrowed $25 and drove from Kansas to Los Angeles, where her father worked at several McDonnell’s restaurants, eventually becoming manager at McDonnell’s No. 3 on the corner of Wilshire & Robertson. She sent me four photos from her family’s collection. I find them wonderfully evocative of the era. I can almost smell the burgers!

All photos from the Wetzel family collection.

McDonnell's No. 6 Sunset & La Brea, Tiny Naylors later built at same location.
https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...collection.jpg

McDonnell's No. 3 NE corner, Wilshire & Robertson, carhop standing outside circa 1938.
https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...collection.jpg

McDonnell's No. 1, Beverly & Western circa 1935, Walter Wetzel in foreground on way to work as dishwasher.
https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...collection.jpg

McDonnell's No. 3 NE corner Wilshire & Robertson, manager Walter Wetzel with carhop, circa 1938.
https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...collection.jpg

BillinGlendaleCA Jan 28, 2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5090238)
No, not the tv show I never watched. In this 1960 Bob Hope/Lucille Ball movie about marital boredom in Pasadena, in spite of all the motels we see, not a thing happens. I looked along Ventura Boulevard in the vicinity of Fruitland Drive, fruitlessly, to see if anything still stands. A not-completely-in-depth check of the 1960 city directory didn't help--maybe these places are out of range of it. Anyone have any ideas of the locations of these motel gems?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...11931%20AM.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...12211%20AM.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...12229%20AM.jpg


And a few more vintage L.A. shots from The Facts of Life:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...10730%20AM.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...10810%20AM.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...11858%20AM.jpg

All photos United Artists/MGM Home Entertainment

I've been trying to catch up as well as keep current, but I saw this old post from GW and recognized the 7th pic. It's the old Conejo Lodge in Thousand Oaks(the 6th pic is also from TO, see all the oak trees?). I grew up in Thousand Oaks, so I remember it pretty well. It was torn down around 1974 and was on TO Blvd at Hodencamp Rd.

ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7692918)
I recognized the 7th pic. It's the old Conejo Lodge in Thousand Oaks.

#7
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/fLQC7v.jpg
originally posted by GaylordWilshire


Here's a larger view before the signage (and giant skull) was placed above the porch.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/CXa357.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/conejovalley/7411004160/

Bill, was this the place that had "Bullburgers"?


Quote:

Originally Posted by "BillinGlendaleCA

It was torn down around 1974 and was on TO Blvd at Hodencamp Rd.

It sure would be interesting to see a vintage aerial. [hint ;)]
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ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 5:30 PM

I don't believe we've seen the Carson Palms Motel in Torrance.

then
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/DFAJFy.jpg
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2011
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/BDM19I.jpg
gsv

at least one 'dingbat' still in place.




update:
Today it's painted in darker colors and looks much better.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/lId80q.jpg
gsv



Oh, I almost forgot. here's the info. from the vintage postcard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/VW24jt.jpg

no doubt the "large play area' was replaced with the 'heated pool'.

I was surprised by the number of rooms (75!). It doesn't look nearly that big.....the property must go way back.

ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 6:11 PM

speaking of 'dingbats'....

Have we seen the Hauser Apts. on NLA?

It has a new paint job!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/RP6AXe.jpg
James Black via http://www.lamag.com/askchris/the-ac...g-for-is-here/


1436 Hauser Blvd

GaylordWilshire Jan 28, 2017 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7693071)


While I like that the "Carson Palms" script has been replicated, I wish the star-lights had been preserved....


Speaking of palms--have we seen this motel before? Know anything about it BillinGlendaleCA? (reminds me of the "Oleander Arms"....)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UI...A=w848-h541-no

HossC Jan 28, 2017 7:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7692918)

I've been trying to catch up as well as keep current, but I saw this old post from GW and recognized the 7th pic. It's the old Conejo Lodge in Thousand Oaks(the 6th pic is also from TO, see all the oak trees?). I grew up in Thousand Oaks, so I remember it pretty well. It was torn down around 1974 and was on TO Blvd at Hodencamp Rd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7693067)

It sure would be interesting to see a vintage aerial. [hint ;)]

Here's a grab of both buildings together.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
United Artists/MGM Home Entertainment

The 1947 view doesn't show any buildings, so the 1967 view is the only other one available before 1980. For comparison, the 2012 view is on the right. If I zoom in, the watermark covers the buildings.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 7:38 PM

:previous: Thanks for the aerials Hoss

I didn't realize the signage said 'Kover's Redwood Lodge. (what the word in front of Kover's)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/HHZIBu.jpg
One of several aerials taken by Frank Knight for the Oliver Land Co., May 5, 1966.

I believe that's the Conejo Lodge (Kover's Redwood Lodge) on the right...if you look closely, you can see the giant skull above the entrance:previous:

hmmm....it doesn't appear to be at an intersection.



Here's a closer look.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/BqqZlz.jpg




update:
here's the whole pic. to compare with Hoss' aerials.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/YshmRA.jpg

HossC Jan 28, 2017 8:10 PM

I couldn't find Julius Shulman pictures of the Crenshaw Medical Building a couple of days ago, but here are a couple of medical buildings in Pasadena. They're from "Job 2120: Henry Eggers, Medical Buildings (Pasadena, Calif.), 1956".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's a view looking out. The set also includes a couple of close-ups of the gate.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

This is a separate building which was apparently nearby.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

I assume that the signs indicate addresses of 123 and 47 Congress Street, Pasadena. If that's correct, both locations have been subsumed by the Huntington Hospital.

ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 11:38 PM

Early postcard of the Los Angeles Coliseum.

I can't remember if I've ask this before. What's up with the exterior with the slanted walls covered in plants? Was this an early design that was modified?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/LNeEfe.jpg

I'm also curious about the blue 'slash' at lower right. What the heck is that............:previous:?

To me, it looks like a culvert with a wisp of water flowing into it.

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ethereal_reality Jan 28, 2017 11:56 PM

I don't believe we've seen The Alcove on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/MFMXMC.jpg
ebay

I bet they had a neon sign like this logo.

Anyone know of a vintage photo of the intersection of Western & Beverly Blvd? (I believe the bar would have been on the northwest corner)


inside the mb
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/vIrVqQ.jpg

back side
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/8Y4niE.jpg

'The Alcove" 301 N. Western Ave, corner of Beverly Blvd. Los Angeles

I checked the address and I believe it was replaced by a service station (currently Mobil)

HossC Jan 29, 2017 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7693303)

Early postcard of the Los Angeles Coliseum.

I can't remember if I've ask this before. What's up with the exterior with the slanted walls covered in plants? Was this an early design that was modified?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/LNeEfe.jpg

I'm also curious about the blue 'slash' at lower right. What the heck is that............:previous:?

To me, it looks like a culvert with a wisp of water flowing into it.

I'm not sure about the culvert, but the slanted walls seem to be part of the original design which was modified when the seating capacity was increased for the Olympics. Here's another early view, originally posted in 2013.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6304934)

I found this aerial of the coliseum and surrounding construction very interesting.
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/7329/mq0x.jpg
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HossC Jan 29, 2017 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7693319)

I don't believe we've seen The Alcove on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/MFMXMC.jpg
ebay

I bet they had a neon sign like this logo.

Anyone know of a vintage photo of the intersection of Western & Beverly Blvd? (I believe the bar would have been on the northwest corner)

I checked the address and I believe it was replaced by a service station (currently Mobil)

I haven't found a picture of The Alcove yet, but this might have been the building. USC have it labeled as "Pacific-Southwest Trust & Savings Bank - Western & Beverly Branch, Los Angeles, CA, 1924".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

This image is from 1926, and shows signs for the Frank Meline Co/Pierpont Bay in 301 N Western Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

The building seems to have been replaced by a parking lot between 1964 and 1972.

ETA. The demo permit was issued in 1970.

riichkay Jan 29, 2017 1:08 AM

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psnibix4dv.jpg

Has NLA commented at all on "La La Land"? Nothing specific in it regards the noir city, but it's got so many iconic locations...the observatory, The Lighthouse Jazz club in Hermosa Beach, Watts Towers, Grand Central Market, Colorado St. Bridge....the supper club scenes where Gosling has the piano gig were shot at The Smoke House across from Warner Bros....the Fais Do Do club on Adams Blvd., used as an exterior for the theater where the female lead does a one-woman showcase.

I was curious as to how they got the above shot. According to the director, the city allowed the cars to run for one day.

The film is well on its way to becoming a worldwide pop culture phenomenon. It's easy to be cynical about something like this, and to point out that Gosling and Stone are not Fred Astaire and Cyd Charisse. But the thing is just so enormously likable, charming really...and the city has not looked this good on film in so long. Much was shot at magic hour, technicolor sunsets....and the tunes are generally clever and catchy.

I saw the film Wedn. in the theater, and again last night on an Academy screener. It's going to be around a long time. Gosling and Stone, dancing at sunset on Mt. Hollywood Drive (the advertising/lobby card photo comes from this scene) is likely to be this generation's Kelly dancing in the rain. Pilgrimages will be made to that location, they'll put up a plaque one day.

Maybe the only downside is the multitudes who will inevitably be drawn to the town chasing the dream....but that's a minor quibble. The city is the star of this picture.


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