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ethereal_reality Jun 3, 2017 12:38 AM

Does anyone remember Marlem's Fried Chicken?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/4WNgNg.jpg
ebay

What architectural 'style' (I use the term loosely) would you call this-...............-something like Hollywood Regency + Second Empire?

At first glance I thought that was a sculpture towards the back. (I don't believe it's a side door....because the front door is quite understated)

I just had a thought. Is it the 'drive-thru' window?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/NMuzrP.jpg

a P.O. box address? maybe this chicken chain never materialized.

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ethereal_reality Jun 3, 2017 2:05 AM

I could be wrong, but I don't believe we have seen this photograph on nla.

The East Side Club, 1896

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/AzvkrJ.jpg
found on flickr / originally from lapl

"Group photo of the East Side Club members with their bicycles piled in a heap, in front of them. Los Angeles, California." -ozfan22

I thought the men had sweaters tied around their necks, but if you look closely they're actually oversized bow ties. (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/C4GnSc.jpg
detail

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update:

I just found a second photograph of the East Side Club at Santa Monica Next

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/qP50sJ.jpg

here's their description:

"Group photo of the East Side Cycle Club, showing a banner for the club, taken on the beach at Santa Monica near the old North Beach Bath House."

hmmm..so that's interesting.

I thought the club house in the photograph was probably in East Los Angeles somewhere.
If you look at the first photograph again, it doesn't look like a beach to me.

For one thing, if it was Santa Monica...wouldn't the palisades be visible in the background?

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tovangar2 Jun 3, 2017 2:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7823588)

For one thing, if it was Santa Monica...wouldn't the palisades be visible in the background?

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Maybe they were up on the palisades?

1890, "North Beach and bathhouse looking towards the Santa Monica Mountains":
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xh...w=w746-h422-no
smpl

It's so different since they made the cut for PCH.

Beaudry Jun 3, 2017 6:52 AM

Apropos of yesterday's post about the triumvirate on Grand, I just recalled, there was this newly-added postcard among the recently accessioned Marquez collection at the Huntington.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4202/3...16fe970a_b.jpgHDL

odinthor Jun 3, 2017 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7823525)
Does anyone remember Marlem's Fried Chicken?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/4WNgNg.jpg
ebay

What architectural 'style' (I use the term loosely) would you call this-...............-something like Hollywood Regency + Second Empire?

At first glance I thought that was a sculpture towards the back. (I don't believe it's a side door....because the front door is quite understated)

I just had a thought. Is it the 'drive-thru' window?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/NMuzrP.jpg

a P.O. box address? maybe this chicken chain never materialized.

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Never heard of it. Construing the best I can from this

https://www.chowhound.com/post/happened-chicken-867341

it seems to be an east coast phenomenon, centered ? around Washington, D.C. It appears that at least one location is still to be found.

I can hear the owner discussing his hopes with the architect: "Listen, Charlie, we can only afford a one-story; but can we stick things on it to make it more imposing streetside?"

Actually, they could have used the "inspired by Mansard roofs" panels to have an "open to the sky but closing out the neighboring buildings" rooftop dining area. But did they ask me? No.

I think the arch is just a thematic design element to give a little distinction, echoed as it is by the similar high window ? arch on the other side. "Just look for the concrete arches in your neighborhood..."

HossC Jun 3, 2017 7:00 PM

I've got some mid-century residential pictures from Julius Shulman today. It's "Job 2039: Palmer and Krisel, Midland Meadows (Fullerton, Calif.), 1955".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'm trying to work out if that's a barbecue or an incinerator on the back of the chimney seen through the window.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The last image shows how the roof apex gave room for extra windows.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

From a page at kriselconnection.com:
In 1955 Midland Properties developed two Palmer & Krisel-designed subdivisions in Fullerton, California – Midland Meadows and Midland Park Estates. Midland Park Estates was of course centered around a park, while Midland Meadows was touted as an all-cul-de-sac community, offering quiet, safer streets to home buyers.
I'm not exactly sure where the boudaries of Midland Meadows are, but all the houses I found claiming to be from there are in the blocks just west of Fullerton Metrocenter. It's not clear if the all the Shulman pictures are from a single house, but if anyone feels like gassing up the Googlemobile to take a look ...

There's a 2007 obituary to Dan Saxon Palmer in the LA Times. William (Bill) Krisel is now in his 90s - you can read his bio at ncmodernist.org.

Earl Boebert Jun 3, 2017 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7824016)
I'm trying to work out if that's a barbecue or an incinerator on the back of the chimney seen through the window.

I'm pretty sure it's a barbecue.

Cheers,

Earl

ProphetM Jun 3, 2017 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7824016)
I've got some mid-century residential pictures from Julius Shulman today. It's "Job 2039: Palmer and Krisel, Midland Meadows (Fullerton, Calif.), 1955".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I'm trying to work out if that's a barbecue or an incinerator on the back of the chimney seen through the window.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The last image shows how the roof apex gave room for extra windows.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

From a page at kriselconnection.com:
In 1955 Midland Properties developed two Palmer & Krisel-designed subdivisions in Fullerton, California – Midland Meadows and Midland Park Estates. Midland Park Estates was of course centered around a park, while Midland Meadows was touted as an all-cul-de-sac community, offering quiet, safer streets to home buyers.
I'm not exactly sure where the boudaries of Midland Meadows are, but all the houses I found claiming to be from there are in the blocks just west of Fullerton Metrocenter. It's not clear if the all the Shulman pictures are from a single house, but if anyone feels like gassing up the Googlemobile to take a look ...

There's a 2007 obituary to Dan Saxon Palmer in the LA Times. William (Bill) Krisel is now in his 90s - you can read his bio at ncmodernist.org.

Wow, I grew up just a block from there - on Maxzim just west of Lombard. These cul-de-sacs back up to houses facing Lombard. If it was an all-cul-de-sac community then Midland Meadows must have been a very small development, as there are just 4 cul-de-sacs there, extending west from Richman Ave. - two pairs of cul-de-sacs separated by Baker Ave. I traveled that block every day. My kindergarten was Woodcrest school, directly across the street from two of those cul-de-sacs. We moved when I was 16 so I don't really have memories of distinctive architecture, and my house being outside the boundaries of this development was a more standard design. It was built in 1958 I believe. I undoubtedly knew some kids who lived in these Palmer & Krisel houses.

If you use the 3D satellite view in Google Maps you can still see the backyard barbecue attached to the chimney on a lot of these houses.

HossC Jun 3, 2017 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7806347)

I could be wrong, but I don't believe this intriguing photograph has been posted on NLA. ( partially because it's mislabeled in the USC archive)

"View of Sunset Boulevard from the roof of the Chamber of Commerce building, [s.d.]"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/cXAoLD.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/21455/rec/3

"At center, a large street spans from left to right, annexed by smaller streets or alleys in the foreground, at perpendicular angles.
Farther in the distance, the tallest building in the view can be seen, topped by a small rotunda.; Legible signs from left to right include:
"Beverly Hotel", "S.G. Steppers", "Prince Albert", "Safeway Tire Stores", "Caterpillar Tires", "Elzee Motor Co. Used Cars", "Iris Apartments",
"California Fireproof Storage Company", and "Moss Photographer"."


We see two buildings, the Beverly Hotel & the Iris Apartments, that were included in Flyingwedge's recent Olive Street post.

You'll be pleased to know that the caption for the picture above has now been corrected, and I also forwarded some extra information. What surprised me during my research was how many buildings (in addition at the Beverly and Iris) were still standing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Detail of picture above

The California Fireproof Storage Co's Warehouse No 2 was at 1320 Margo Street. Here it is today, although, sadly, there are no ghost signs.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Also in the detail picture above, Century Cords at 306 W Pico Boulevard and Modern Auto Supply Co at 308 W Pico Boulevard. This advert for the former can be found in Motion Picture News (Sep - Oct 1926).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
archive.org

The building with the "Moss Photographer" sign is still standing (we've seen it before, here), but the ones to its left, including the one which housed Century Cords, were taken out when S Olive Street was realigned.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

By contrast, the 200 block of W Pico appears to be relatively intact, although it's hard to get a good picture with all the trees.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

The businesses on this block in the USC image are: the G S Donaldson Investment Co at 200 W Pico Boulevard; S G Stephens (also corrected in the USC description) at 206 W Pico Boulevard; and the Safeway Tire Co at 214 W Pico Boulevard. I couldn't read the bright neon sign at what is now 222 W Pico, but it was almost certainly connected to the auto trade.

Earl Boebert Jun 3, 2017 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7824074)
I couldn't read the bright neon sign at what is now 222 W Pico, but it was almost certainly connected to the auto trade.

Playing with the gamma and contrast doesn't yield much, but a guess is:

[???] School [??] Safety

or some such.

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jun 4, 2017 3:27 AM

re: Midland Meadows, Fullerton CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7824016)
If anyone feels like gassing up the Googlemobile to take a look ...

I took your bait Hoss ;). I might have located the house sans the decorative screen.

The windows all appear to line up and there's a pipe on the roof that matches the 1955 photograph as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/fInq25.jpg
Julius Shulman, 1955

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/HHWJ2q.jpg

I found it on the northern-most cul-de-sac on W. Woodcrest Avenue.

Whataya think?
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tovangar2 Jun 4, 2017 3:41 AM

:previous:

They've gotten rid of the rock roofs too.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7811003)
Thanks, yes, let us know if you hear anything!

The WGA hasn't written back...yet, but Bill Counter at Los Angeles Theaters is on the case and found some 1976 references to the Writers Guild Theater:

The Los Angeles Times from Los Angeles, California on December 4 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/167104328/
Dec 4, 1976 - His affection for the theater is clear but there is a need now to broaden, ... at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the Writers Guild Theater, 9038 Melrose Ave.


The Los Angeles Times from Los Angeles, California on May 17, 1976 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/165630099/
May 17, 1976 - Sponsored by the Sherwood Oaks Experimental College and open to the public, the seminars will be held at the Writers Guild. 9038 Melrose ...


Valley News from Van Nuys, California · Page 71 - Newspapers.com
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/30359040/
Dec 5, 1976 - The program starts at 7 p.m. The Writer's Guild Theatre is at 9038 Melrose Ave. in Los Angeles. (That's where you buy the tickets.) For further ...

ProphetM Jun 4, 2017 4:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7824252)
re: Midland Meadows, Fullerton CA


I took your bait Hoss ;). I might have located the house sans the decorative screen.

The windows all appear to line up and there's a pipe on the roof that matches the 1955 photograph as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/fInq25.jpg
Julius Shulman, 1955

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/HHWJ2q.jpg

I found it on the northern-most cul-de-sac on W. Woodcrest Avenue.

Whataya think?
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These are tract homes so there is actually more than one house of that design in the development. I count 2 or 3 on each cul-de-sac, which look different now due to window replacements but might have looked the same when new.

ethereal_reality Jun 4, 2017 4:19 AM

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3008/5ZYOIC.gif

Flyingwedge Jun 4, 2017 6:44 AM

Unidentified Apartment House
 
Does anyone recognize this building, pictured in the September 1919 Architect and Engineer of California?

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original

Google Books

CityBoyDoug Jun 4, 2017 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 7824267)
These are tract homes so there is actually more than one house of that design in the development. I count 2 or 3 on each cul-de-sac, which look different now due to window replacements but might have looked the same when new.

Does anyone know the street address of this house?

ProphetM Jun 4, 2017 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7824331)
Does anyone know the street address of this house?

This is 530 W. Woodcrest Ave. Another possible candidate is at 525 W. Woodcrest but it's fenced in and hard to see. 501, 519, and 530 W. Gage are also contenders. There is a very similar design on the southern two cul-de-sacs but the windows along the front seem to be 2 big/2 small on those instead of 3 big/1 small.

HossC Jun 4, 2017 6:27 PM

:previous:

I had a bit more time to look around the area today. Although there are several houses with a similar design, the one that e_r found is one of the best matches. The only reason I ruled it out was the roof on the house to the left, which seems to slope a different way to the one in the Shulman photo. I did, however, find this picture of one of the chimney barbecues in the listing for 524 W Woodcrest Avenue - it now seems to be indoors!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABarbecue1.jpg
www.realtor.com (enlarged from original)

Martin Pal Jun 4, 2017 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7824259)
The WGA hasn't written back...yet, but Bill Counter at Los Angeles Theaters is on the case and found some 1976 references to the Writers Guild Theater:

The Los Angeles Times from Los Angeles, California on December 4 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/167104328/
Dec 4, 1976 - His affection for the theater is clear but there is a need now to broaden, ... at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the Writers Guild Theater, 9038 Melrose Ave.


The Los Angeles Times from Los Angeles, California on May 17, 1976 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/165630099/
May 17, 1976 - Sponsored by the Sherwood Oaks Experimental College and open to the public, the seminars will be held at the Writers Guild. 9038 Melrose ...


Valley News from Van Nuys, California · Page 71 - Newspapers.com
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/30359040/
Dec 5, 1976 - The program starts at 7 p.m. The Writer's Guild Theatre is at 9038 Melrose Ave. in Los Angeles. (That's where you buy the tickets.) For further ...

Thanks, Tovangar2. It would make sense if AMPAS left for it's new building in 1975 that the WGA may have taken it over by 1976! I wonder how long it was there after that?

HossC Jun 4, 2017 7:00 PM

I think this is the first aircraft training building I've featured in the Julius Shulman posts. It's "Job 5157: Garland and Hilles, Flight Safety Inc. (Long Beach, Calif.), 1974".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The other shot shows the training simulator.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

The front has gained a railing, and more buildings have been added at the rear, but the main structure has hardly changed. I did spot one small difference - the address has changed from 4332 to 4330 Donald Douglas Drive.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV


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