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HossC Jul 8, 2015 5:36 PM

:previous:

I've never knew that "cutty sark" was a short skirt/shirt. I'm familiar with the old tea clipper called the Cutty Sark (pictured above), which is a popular visitor attraction in Greenwich, London. There's also a Scots whisky of the same name, which apparently takes its name from the ship, because the ship was built close to the distillery. The Wikipedia page for the whisky says that the ship's name 'came from the Scots language term "cutty-sark", the short shirt [skirt] prominently mentioned in the famous poem by Robert Burns, "Tam o' Shanter"'. Now it all makes sense :).

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 6:15 PM

I just noticed if you look at the Tam-O-Shanter sign from the opposite direction it's lit up. (and looks much better)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/exGZuz.jpg
gsv

:previous: I also noticed the brick building on the opposite side of Boyce Avenue.

Have we discussed this interesting looking building before? (it's vaguely familiar)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/dCgTJ9.jpg
gsv

:previous: note the sign on top of the roof.

It's home to The Griffin bar.

-here are both signs in January.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/rjlpYW.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 6:53 PM

Here's another 1924 photograph from the same seller who posted the Essman Café, Tam-O-Shanter, and 'Storybook' Amusement Park office.

Van de Kamp's 'Holland Dutch' Bakery

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/83Iajb.jpg
eBay


There's a connection between Van de Kamps and the Tam-O-Shanter I wasn't aware of. (see below)


'Tam-O-Shanter facts:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...907/j1Wbs5.jpg
http://www.rolandcommunications.com/tam

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 7:11 PM

This is a fun one!!


The Orange Inn, Foothill Blvd., 1924.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/WcYMFi.jpg
eBay

This makes me want to go back in time.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/KsFStE.jpg
eBay


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...901/jBCyiT.jpg

but where along Foothill Blvd?

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Martin Pal Jul 8, 2015 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088517)
Tamaris, who dat?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/SmCcMx.jpg
http://artblart.com/

"Tamaris with a large Art Deco scarf." -photographed by Edward Steichen in 1925.
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I love this photo, E_R, thanks for looking up Tamaris and finding it!
I've seen a lot of Steichen's WWII photos, who knew about ones like this!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088517)
-Anyone else notice that Ione Murphy looks like a young Tamaris?
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And, by the way, what was 15 year old Miss Murphy doing at a "wild party?" (oh, yeah, she was an actress...)

tovangar2 Jul 8, 2015 8:25 PM

Flint fountain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7086729)
Eight album photographs from December 1946.

#7
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/7jpuK3.jpg
eBay
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Why is the 1933 Vermont marble Flint Memorial Fountain in front of Los Angeles City Hall?

Massachusetts-born Frank Putnam Flint's main claim to fame these days was the founding of Flintridge (now La Cañada Flintridge), although he also played roles in the building of the Owens Valley aqueduct and the development of the harbor. In addition, during his six years as U.S. Senator from California (1905-1911), his wiki page claims he made the "mission style" official for government buildings (?)

The fountain seems to be celebrating the "old-boy network" even more than it does Flint:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...14824%2BAM.jpg
wiki

We should make La Cañada Flintridge a present of it:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...13004%2BAM.jpg
publicartinLA

It's unfortunate viewed from the side anyway.

Martin Pal Jul 8, 2015 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088655)
It's home to The Griffin bar.

There's nothing better than a neon green martini drinking Griffin!

Great sign!

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 8:48 PM

Thanks for the information and history of the Flint Memorial Fountain t2.

When I look at that snapshot my eye is drawn to the man reading the newspaper.
Who is he? Is he on his lunch break? Is he searching the want ads for a job? We'll never know. :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/p25R9E.jpg

I just noticed the hotel sign on the building across the street. (to the left of the man's newspaper)
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Martin Pal Jul 8, 2015 8:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7086729)


More "Train Buddies":


Soldiers on a troop train, 1944
http://40.media.tumblr.com/e47959518...zanuo1_500.jpga photo by Allan Grant

Sailors at Union Station Los Angeles, 1945
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9...anuo1_1280.jpgRepost and also at this Link.

tovangar2 Jul 8, 2015 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088842)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/p25R9E.jpg

I just noticed the hotel sign on the building across the street. (to the left of the man's newspaper)
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That looks to be the 1883 the Natick House Hotel. It had frontages on 1st and Main:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5300784)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T...21736%2BPM.jpg
historic hotels

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...21932%2BPM.jpg
amazon

gsjansen noted that the Natick lasted until 1950


P.S.

This shot is darling:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7088853)
Soldiers on a troop train, 1944
http://40.media.tumblr.com/e47959518...zanuo1_500.jpga photo by Allan Grant


oldstuff Jul 8, 2015 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088729)
This is a fun one!!


The Orange Inn, Foothill Blvd., 1924.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/WcYMFi.jpg
eBay

This makes me want to go back in time.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/KsFStE.jpg
eBay


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...901/jBCyiT.jpg

but where along Foothill Blvd?

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Probably not this actual one, but there is still a big orange stand located on Foothill Blvd in Fontana. It is on the property of Bono's Italian Restaurant and Wikipedia indicates that it was originally 3 miles to the east along Foothill. Bono's originally had its own orange but it was torn down. The owner then bought this one and moved it.

There is some indication that the Orange Inn was located at what is now Foothill and Wigwam. The corner of Foothill and Wigwam is in Arcadia. The property was owned by a man named Hal Slemons who had a lot of land north of Foothill in the 20's and 30's.

The Orange Inn was turned into the place called the Wigwam, which was apparently thatched with palm leaves according to a blog here:
https://tangentialmeanderings.wordpr...rhood-changes/

According to the blogger, the McDonald's located on the north side of Foothill is where the Orange Inn/ Wigwam was located

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 9:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7088896)
There is some indication that the Orange Inn was located at what is now Foothill and Wigwam. The corner of Foothill and Wigwam is in Arcadia.
The property was owned by a man named Hal Slemons who had a lot of land north of Foothill in the 20's and 30's.

The Orange Inn was turned into the place called the Wigwam, which was apparently thatched with palm leaves.

:previous: That's great information oldstuff.

And look what I found; a photograph of the Wig-Wam (with thatched roof ;) like you said)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/K3fz5r.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-Origina...item43df516362

the seller lists the date as 1924, the same year as the Orange Inn photograph. So did they co-exist? -or does the seller have his years mixed up?



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/NAODQR.jpg
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GaylordWilshire Jul 8, 2015 9:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7088823)
Why is the 1933 Vermont marble Flint Memorial Fountain in front of Los Angeles City Hall?

Massachusetts-born Frank Putnam Flint's main claim to fame these days was the founding of Flintridge (now La Cañada Flintridge), although he also played roles in the building of the Owens Valley aqueduct and the development of the harbor. In addition, during his six years as U.S. Senator from California (1905-1911), his wiki page claims he made the "mission style" official for government buildings (?)

The fountain seems to be celebrating the "old-boy network" even more than it does Flint:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...14824%2BAM.jpg
wiki

We should make La Cañada Flintridge a present of it:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...13004%2BAM.jpg
publicartinLA

It's unfortunate viewed from the side anyway.



Like it or not, the "old-boy network" built Los Angeles; without it, we'd have little to look at here. The fountain belongs in LA.

Btw, a good read is the recent Water to the Angels by Lee Standiford (Amazon: http://amzn.to/1dMRHCr)



A few priors on the Flint fountain:


http://imageshack.us/a/img706/3640/w3kh.jpg
from ER's post 17444


See also ProphetM's 16847

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2015 10:01 PM

:previous: I had forgotten all about that color slide GW. The lawn looks awfully dry. -didn't they have sprinklers in the 1940?

tovangar2 Jul 8, 2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7088928)
Like it or not, the "old-boy network" built Los Angeles; without it, we'd have little to look at here.

I disagree. We'd have plenty to look at here, including much many on the thread regret the loss of. Democracy holds no terrors for me.

If you claim the right to express your sensibilities here (and I see no reason why not), please refrain from dismissing mine.

tovangar2 Jul 8, 2015 11:41 PM

Just a brief follow-up on Flyingwedge's two terrific posts on the Rand-Cone House, AKA the Baldwin Hills Oli Field House.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29554

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19217

The filming location site for the home has dozens of color photos of the interior, exterior, grounds and views. Well worth a look:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...22757%2BPM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...22940%2BPM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...25317%2BPM.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3...24349%2BPM.jpg

All pix http://www.baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/index.html

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088729)

The Orange Inn, Foothill Blvd., 1924.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/WcYMFi.jpg
eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7088916)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/K3fz5r.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-Origina...item43df516362

the seller lists the date as 1924, the same year as the Orange Inn photograph. So did they co-exist? -or does the seller have his years mixed up?

I'm lost on this one too. Are the Orange Inn and the Wig-Wam the same building? Is the orange still in there under the thatch?
(Note the two smaller peaks on the Wig-Wam match the secondary oranges on the Orange Inn)

Krell58 Jul 9, 2015 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7088853)
More "Train Buddies":


Sailors at Union Station Los Angeles, 1945
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9...anuo1_1280.jpgRepost and also at this Link.

That kid on the left with the curly hair looks like he's only 16 or 17 years old.

ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2015 2:01 AM

Martin_Pal, thanks for the 'train buddies' photographs. (especially the one where they're sleeping on the train) -very touching.


"Vintage 35mm Slide, Original Los Angeles Police Officer, Traffic."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/yGGIcD.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/sl10-VINTAGE...item4d34c14ee7

:previous: I'm intrigued by the faded white lines that angle away from the intersection (lower right). Why are they there?
Is it something to do with the streetcar line?








Here's a close-up of the dashing police officer.

white gloves, white hat...very spiffy.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/nLiTPd.jpg
detail

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Noircitydame Jul 9, 2015 2:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 7089095)
That kid on the left with the curly hair looks like he's only 16 or 17 years old.

He might be! My grandfather, a Hollywood kid, went in the Navy in early 1945 when he was 17. His correct birthdate 9-1-27 is on his papers so he didn't lie about his age. They were recruiting at his high school (Fairfax). He never did get his diploma.

There's a nice coffee table book with lots of really lovely buddy pictures called At Ease: Navy Men of WWII

This handsome sailor and his date are at Waldorf Cellar, 521 S. Main. I sure hope he made made it home safe and got offered a movie contract.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/521smain.jpg
ebay

GaylordWilshire Jul 9, 2015 2:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7088968)
I disagree. We'd have plenty to look at here, including much many on the thread regret the loss of. Democracy holds no terrors for me.

If you claim the right to express your sensibilities here (and I see no reason why not), please refrain from dismissing mine.


"I see no reason why not"

As the moderator, would you be so kind as to post a complete list of thread rules?

Lighten up.


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