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the urban politician Jan 23, 2019 7:10 PM

CHICAGO | 210 N Stetson | 522 FT | 47 FLOORS
 
Crains just put out a new rendering that's floating around for the former Mandarin Hotel site

Sorry, too busy right now to post it but here's a link:


https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...icle1-readmore

Bombardier Jan 23, 2019 7:11 PM

CHICAGO | 210 N Stetson | 583 FT | 45 FLOORS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8422654)
I must have missed that post, I would have corrected it then if I had seen it. The current design, by SCB, is 45 stories, 583' to top of the screenwall. The 50% SD set is dated 11/16/18, so if someone posted 900' they definitely have bad information.

Article on 210 N Stetson. Following up on previous comments a few pages back.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...icle1-readmore

Fvn Jan 23, 2019 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8446631)
Crains just put out a new rendering that's floating around for the former Mandarin Hotel site

Sorry, too busy right now to post it but here's a link:


https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...icle1-readmore

Heres the AD
https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/caventures2.png

AMWChicago Jan 23, 2019 7:41 PM

When I saw that article my brain jumped to Site O in LSE. Good to see another gap being filled. Perfect height in this location in my mind, as well. All this area needs at this point is density more. If this and Site O deliver we'll be set. All we'll need is Vista to complete and Site I to be a bold +800 footer to cap LSE off. :cheers:

Steely Dan Jan 23, 2019 7:54 PM

i was hoping for something taller here (thinking something along the lines of the old MO proposal), but this will do as filler to finally fill that long vacant lot.

harryc Jan 23, 2019 7:54 PM

"I see a blue tower - and I want it painted black"

jc5680 Jan 23, 2019 8:30 PM

^ I am sure the blue glass brigade will be out in full force for this one ;)

The tower is fine, I guess, if kind of bland. The base looks a little wonky scale wise. Makes it look like the plaza to the west is sitting 30 feet higher than the proposals' street level. I imagine that 1 floor piece at the sw corner of the proposal is meant to sit flush with next door rather than there being that large wall.

LouisVanDerWright Jan 23, 2019 9:02 PM

I know I am a regular complainer about height bitching, but you'd think the developer would want to go higher here to maximize views. Then again maybe it's not worth the effort given the forest of tall buildings surrounding this parcel.

Buckman821 Jan 23, 2019 9:10 PM

This is a boring design. However, it's also a really really low visibility site.

In summary...meh, build it.

the urban politician Jan 23, 2019 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 8446793)
I know I am a regular complainer about height bitching, but you'd think the developer would want to go higher here to maximize views. Then again maybe it's not worth the effort given the forest of tall buildings surrounding this parcel.

They probably don't want to go through the whole rezoning process (which, as the article explains, would also entail adding affordable units which they won't need to do if they build 'as of right')

chicubs111 Jan 23, 2019 10:06 PM

i thought this site was zoned for much taller?...mandarin was 950ft i believed?

Steely Dan Jan 23, 2019 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicubs111 (Post 8446875)
i thought this site was zoned for much taller?...mandarin was 950ft i believed?

MO's proposed height jumped around quite a bit:

it was first 887'

then 833'

then 930'

finally 845'

then canceled.

i_am_hydrogen Jan 23, 2019 11:07 PM

Developer gives a glimpse of a big project near Millennium Park

https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/...s3/800-one.jpg

One of Chicago’s busiest real estate developers may be cooking up plans for something big on a site near Millennium Park that has sat fallow for decades.

A unit of CA Ventures has taken out advertisements in a trade publication prominently featuring a rendering of a tall tower on the parcel at the northwest corner of Lake and Stetson streets. The 40,600-square-foot lot may be best known as the site of a planned Mandarin Oriental hotel and luxury condominiums. That project wound up in foreclosure during the real estate bust and the land was put up for sale more than two years ago.

CA’s plans for the East Loop site are a bit of a mystery. The ads in newsletter Real Estate Alert include no specifics about the project, just its location in Chicago, but the unit that took out the ads, CA Residential, specializes in apartments. CA executives did not return calls or emails.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...icle1-headline

r18tdi Jan 24, 2019 2:13 AM

IIRC the rumor a while back was SCB. This look about right for them.

Hourstrooper Jan 24, 2019 2:40 AM

summery of design....it'll at least be a nice contrast to all those 70s style black office buildings, hopefully till be on the plan commission soon.

BonoboZill4 Jan 24, 2019 4:03 AM

The base looks pretty active on the pedestrian level which I really like. That part of the city needs to be livened up, and with this and Site O it should do the trick (more or less)

TallBob Jan 24, 2019 8:45 AM

Looks like there's an "appendage" on the side of this proposal! Chop it off and then add 8-10 floors, that should do it!

LouisVanDerWright Jan 24, 2019 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallBob (Post 8447395)
Looks like there's an "appendage" on the side of this proposal! Chop it off and then add 8-10 floors, that should do it!

I mean honestly if you chopped 8-10 floors off the "apendage" and put them on top you'd literally have the old MO proposal.

aaron38 Jan 24, 2019 2:15 PM

It does seem like the site would do much better with a taller, more slender design. It's kind of dark down in there. Less bulk would be better.

the urban politician Jan 24, 2019 3:52 PM

If existing zoning allows something taller, then yes I guess it's curious why they aren't taking advantage of that.

My guess is that they are more likely to get this thing financed, done, and flipped to a REIT if it's a smaller project.


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