Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6437691)

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FW-- I can't quite tell if you're suggesting that the Cuzner house was moved, but I don't believe it was. At first I thought the 1991/2091 confusion might have to do with the considerable house renumberings and street-name changes that occurred with various later city annexations--it appears to me that the Cuzner house stands today where it was built. There is considerable confusion among the Times and the Herald about the house's address:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...ertimespic.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...icLAHcompl.jpg
A Times illustration published May 14, 1905; at right, the Herald's flopped photo of Nov 26, 1905


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...timescompl.jpg
From the Times, May 14, 1905


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520AM.bmp.jpg
From the Herald, Nov 26, 1905


To add to the confusion, this appeared in the Herald on July 19, 1903:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...950%2520AM.jpg


(Speaking of Wilshire Boulevard, which we weren't, Edelman would go on to become the Hellman's go-to architect when they built along that street:

3240: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...boulevard.html

3325: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html

3350: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html)


For those who think pre-razor-wire Los Angeles was so lovely and civilized--it seems that hardly a big house in the best sections of town wasn't burglarized at some point or other--here's a bit of Cuzner noir (in case architectural detail gets boring to anyone) from the Herald of Dec 19, 1908:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520AM.bmp.jpg


LA Times/CDNC

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6436274)

While I don't have a picture, I drive by the area every day and currently, where the houses were and then the vacant lot outlined on your map is a giant hole and some shoring on the freeway side. They are building something big(judging from the size of the hole) It runs down that block quite a ways, along side the freeway. There is also another large structure taking shape opposite that, across Temple, next to the freeway which covers the entire block from the freeway to Figueroa. It is, according to the sign, Luxury Condos with retail spaces. The staircases, made of steel and craned in, are 4-6 stories high and are currently going nowhere above the ground level construction. Not a wonderful Victorian in sight!! The last one was bulldozed out of that area about seven years ago.

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6437691)

FW-- I can't quite tell if you're suggesting that the Cuzner house was moved, but I don't believe it was. At first I thought the 1991/2091 confusion might have to do with the considerable house renumberings and street-name changes that occurred with various later city annexations--it appears to me that the Cuzner house stands today where it was built.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6425585)

We've seen the art deco entrance to the Hollywood Bowl numerous times on NLA, but the Gruen Watch sign is more rare.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/20/iygs.jpgebay

detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/30/wqfh.jpg

Does anyone know how long this sign was there? -are those speakers on the utility pole?
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Here is the entrance today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/607/5joz.jpg



-there's still a clock on it! Is it Gruen?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/802/4s9r.jpg

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6425585)

We've seen the art deco entrance to the Hollywood Bowl numerous times on NLA, but the Gruen Watch sign is more rare.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/20/iygs.jpgebay

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6436593)

I think the panorama posted yesterday by Flyingwedge shows the Forthmann house and its environs in 1902. I know the quality isn't great at the maximum zoom level, but here's a close-up of what I believe to be the right part of 18th Street. The Forthmann house should be the first two-story house on the right of the street through the middle.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannHouse3.jpg
Detail of picture at Huntington Digital Library

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6436344)

Another poster had asked that question recently, but no answer's been forthcoming as yet.

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6436450)

This is not a lot of information about that USO, but it’s from someone who was there.

I’ve read a lot of things concerning Hollywood and the Canteens and such during WWII over the years. I remember reading about a canteen in the Beverly Hills Hotel somewhere once and wondered about that, but never looked into it any further. I recalled that it was on a blog where a woman who had found boxes of letters her father had written had posted one he’d written about when he arrived in Southern California.

(I love that the internet has provided a place for people to share these kinds of personal letters, stories and such that otherwise would have remained with the families or lost entirely. Pictures, from the WWII era, say, that may have been only seen by a dozen people for decades are now posted online and available to be seen by millions!)

Anyway, I thought I’d try to find that link again if it wasn’t going to be too time consuming and I happened to find it quickly!

Here is part of some correspondence mentioning this USO, from a letter dated Jan. 9, 1943 and written by a man who was known as “Lad”. Link follows.

"Wednesday morning it was nearly noon and I went to the Y and cleaned up and then went into LA for lunch. I wandered around a little but it is too big to get very far on foot so I went back to the car and was just driving aimlessly toward camp went four soldiers asked me if I was going to Hollywood. I had not thought of that, so I said “Sure” and off we went.

At the USO there I talked with some of the hostesses and found out what I could about the town and then decided to go out to the Beverly Hills Hotel where there was another USO. I tried to get someone to go out with me and show me some of the prettier places and views, but was unsuccessful.

I went back to Hollywood to the Hollywood canteen and stayed there the rest of the night dancing and snacking (new word here in LA and vicinity) until the place closed at 12. With a fellow I met there, I went to the Palladium and did some more dancing to Tommy Dorsey, he really is very good.

That night I drove way up above the Beverly Hills residence section and again spent the night in the car. The view was gorgeous and I spent quite some time just sitting in the sun and looking. Then back to the Beverly Hills Hotel USO to clean up and eat. I spent the early afternoon there reading and talking with various women and soldiers and then went back to Hollywood and saw “Random Harvest” which I enjoyed just as much as the book.

Then I went back to the Hollywood canteen until 12 and then to Florentine Gardens for more dancing. After a cup of coffee at about 2:30 I drove back to Arcadia. I had to report here on Friday but at that hour of the morning there was nothing doing so I slept, again in the car."

http://greatestgenerationlessons.wor...beverly-hills/