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ethereal_reality Sep 28, 2012 9:28 PM

I just came across this postcard....where the heck is this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img72/3163/sgatewhereisthis.jpg
ebay

I didn't realize there were any dams in Pasadena.
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BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 9:34 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img204/1619/l...iedbuildin.jpg
Taking a leaf from another book?

Another interesting Doctors' Office discovered while searching for :previous:. Source indicates "Los Angeles, Calif. : Mott Studios, [1937]" and author "Howard, Elwell G." No address. Can discern 4 digit street number but not much more.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...6Y6VHLJQ9L.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NSYIG3L3PH.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PAH8MA2I93.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S1BN89QIST.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2V1YLKUN8H.jpg All from C.St.Lib

BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848441)
I just came across this postcard....where the heck is this?__

From Wiki"
The Devil's Gate at the Arroyo Seco River prior to 1920 damming. Note the "devil's profile" in the rock to the right.:hell:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...l%27s_gate.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroyo_...eles_County%29

BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 9:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848370)
:previous: What a beautiful little airport! I would have loved to have dined at the Sky Room.

So why did they feel the need to cover up all the exquisite architectural details?

Maybe the view was better than the food or service?

Only a guess that the cover-up was in the interest of "modernization" which evidently occurred within 10 short years. (Name change to Lockheed in 1940?)

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UJLQRQCL7N.jpg C.St.Lib

BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 10:10 PM

When in Glendale, see if you can wrangle an invitation to the Grand Central Airport Flying Club! (1310 Airway) (My dues are in arrears, otherwise I would leave everyone a guest pass.):rolleyes:


All 1930
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...53MPG184DK.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YID7HMG5PA.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...X33F4QB713.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...MXQMEXDDG9.jpg All C.St.Lib

But fear not. If you can afford a cherry phosphate, you can spend your money at other parts of the Glendale Grand Central Airport!: They may not have a "Sky Room" but they get complements on the Sky Light!

All 1930
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HN2HA8F7SJ.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5LXFHDXV66.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CXIL8FBIBQ.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S3MMVSGB7Q.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...9F6QDD53RD.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...1LKIEHP2KV.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PJRTLN6UA4.jpgAll fromC.St.Lib



malumot Sep 28, 2012 10:59 PM

Great photo.

Sadly the link brought me to the Wiki page, and this:

"There has been a series of studies conducted to assess and improve the management of the Arroyo Seco Watershed--


Arroyo Seco Watershed Restoration Feasibility Study - 2002
US Army Corps of Engineers Arroyo Seco Watershed Reconnaissance Study - 2002
Pasadena Arroyo Seco Master Plan & EIR - 2003
Angeles National Forest Master Plan - US Forest Service - 2005
Arroyo Seco Watershed Coordination Program (Arroyo Seco Foundation) - 2004
Arroyo Seco Parkway Corridor Management Plan - 2004
USACE Arroyo Seco Watershed Feasibility Study - 2005
Arroyo Seco Watershed Management and Restoration Study (North East Trees) - 2006
Central Arroyo Stream Restoration Program - 2007–2008
Arroyo Seco Watershed Sustainability Program - 2007–2010
Fish Restoration in the Arroyo Seco - 2008
Arroyo Seco Watershed Assessment - 2010

:slob:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5848461)
From Wiki"
The Devil's Gate at the Arroyo Seco River prior to 1920 damming. Note the "devil's profile" in the rock to the right.:hell:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...l%27s_gate.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroyo_...eles_County%29


ethereal_reality Sep 28, 2012 11:16 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/4778/p...925postmar.jpg
postmark 1925

I was able to find this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/5786/aadevilsgatewp.jpg
http://waterandpower.org/index.html
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BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 11:21 PM

:previous: Could have something to do with the subject matter? :hell:

Quote:

Above Devil's Gate, the rapids of the Arroyo Seco are so positioned so that the falls make a beating, laughing sound. In Tongva-Gabrieliño traditional narratives, this is attributed to a wager made between the river and the coyote spirit.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroyo_...eles_County%29

Bearing in mind that Halloween is approaching, there is an "interesting" "illustrated" writeup on the Devil's Gate/Dam and the Colorado Street Bridge here:http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog...ct-and-fiction

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5Xg3gfcQ_x...l%27s_gate.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PCmend8WBd...s_Gate_Dam.jpg

One of seven portals to hell?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R89O2Hc9_L...vilsgate01.jpg


ethereal_reality Sep 28, 2012 11:34 PM

I was just ready to post this...and you beat me to it.

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/3035/sgatbrrssp.jpg


It looks like they turned the Devil into a pig snouted, pointy eared Troll from Hell.

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/4778/p...925postmar.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img528/5786/aadevilsgatewp.jpg

So what about the mountain that appears behind the 'devil's profile' in the pre-dam photo?
It seems to be missing in the dam photos. Did they level it?
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I also wonder what this is.

http://imageshack.us/a/img38/3654/aadevilsgate1.jpg
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BifRayRock Sep 28, 2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848612)
I was just ready to post this...you beat me to it.


Sorry about that.:ahhh:

I can't resist one more brush with the macabre.
Looked at the '29 map below, and of course it mentions Noah Berry's Trout Club (A-4) but not one mention of the Devil or his gate. Still, my eye is drawn "Kelly Airpt" (K-6) - about an inch east of Mines Field. Maybe it is the artist's poetic license (Herbert E. Florecky) or my poor eyesight, but is it fair to infer that Kelly's air safety record was . . . problematic or possibly less-than-exemplary? (Either that or Gould Lane could be an unlucky place to park!):koko:

1929
http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg//MAP_0030.jpgLAPL

1959 Trout fisherman from Sun Valley with devilish expression and his whopper
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083918.jpgLapl

ethereal_reality Sep 29, 2012 12:13 AM

:previous: I love that map. The other day while watching a silent film, I spotted one of the obscure tourist spots. I'll have to post.
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..but for right now it's back to the devil.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848612)

I found these two photos of a 1890s excursion to Devil's Gate. Notice the lone person sitting on the devil's horn.

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9222/s...sadenapiob.jpg
http://pasadenapio.blogspot.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5331/sgate.jpg
http://pasadenapio.blogspot.com/

I wish they were larger.
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ethereal_reality Sep 29, 2012 12:18 AM

oops. double post. I'll add something real quick. hold on
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Ok, here's an early snapshot found in an album on ebay. What summit would this be?

http://imageshack.us/a/img84/7432/aa...00eastofla.jpg
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BifRayRock Sep 29, 2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848658)
oops. double post. I'll add something real quick. hold on. (shakes devil out of computer)
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Ok, here's an early snapshot found in an album on ebay. What summit would this be?

http://imageshack.us/a/img84/7432/aa...00eastofla.jpg
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Wild Guess: Grapevine Summit? Tejon pass?? (Might have felt more like a thousand in 1922!)

http://www.crashforensics.com/images/tejonpass1.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5290/5...47bd5f9a_m.jpgflickr


ethereal_reality Sep 29, 2012 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayor Shaw (Post 5847714)
Bruneman was shot down at the Roost Cafe on Oct.25,1937. I understand that the Rampart Division Police Station now stands on the site of the old Roost Cafe.

From Ebay:

Gangland warfare flamed in Los Angeles to bring to a bullet riddled death George Les Bruneman, big time gambler, and a chance bystander who sought to trace the killers. Bruneman was shot down in a small bar by two of five gunmen who escaped in a motor car. Frank Guizard, 24, was shot and fatally wounded when he followed the gunmen from the cafe. Alice Ingram, Bruneman's companion was shot twice in the leg in the wild fusillade which brought to a blazing climax rumors of a private gambling war in this area. Photo shows interior of the bar and Bruneman's body after the fatal shooting.......10-25-1937.Note the ghostly mists around the body....creepy.


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http://imageshack.us/a/img542/9796/lesbruman.png

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All these lovely details from my simple "Put your mitts down!" post. Sometimes I think you are noir personified Mayor Shaw. :)
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Godzilla Sep 29, 2012 1:41 AM

Regarding THE '29 amusement map, I have wondered about a few of the places listed in the sunset strip enlargement (upper right hand area). In particular, I understand La Boheme Cafe was later renamed Billy Wilkerson's Trocadero Nightclub, 8610 Sunset Boulevard I have not seen any mention or depiction of the Moscow Inn. It is not in the '29 directory. And I wonder what was being served in these hotspots, considering the existence of Prohibition.

1938
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-41636?v=hrUSC digital

1945
http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007168.jpglapl

July 1938 Troc'
http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...blelombard.jpg

Wig-Wag Sep 29, 2012 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848441)
I just came across this postcard....where the heck is this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img72/3163/sgatewhereisthis.jpg
ebay

I didn't realize there were any dams in Pasadena.
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The dam, road, and what remains of the spillway, can be easily seen by typing Devil's Gate Reservoir, Pasadena, CA into Google maps. With the exception of a lack of water, it is remarkably unchanged from the postcard image.

Cheers,
Jack

Wig-Wag Sep 29, 2012 4:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5848696)
Wild Guess: Grapevine Summit? Tejon pass?? (Might have felt more like a thousand in 1922!)

http://www.crashforensics.com/images/tejonpass1.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5290/5...47bd5f9a_m.jpgflickr


No rails ever traversed Tejon Pass. The locomotive in the photo, although small, appears to be a Santa Fe engine. I would suggest that it is a Santa Fe Passenger train approaching the summit of Cajon Pass and the road is Highway 138 before it was paved.

Mayor Shaw Sep 29, 2012 9:26 AM

Steamed Cleaned With Gasoline!
 
Something about this seems dangerous. I hope there were pleanty of no smoking signs

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/8956/hallrecords.png

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Los Angeles Times May 14,1938

GaylordWilshire Sep 29, 2012 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5848631)


So many great new posts--struggling to keep up. As for this map--interesting to me is that there is reference to Windsor Square but not the newer Hancock Park--nowadays the HP name is generally used for the whole area. I won't start a riot over it, but I'm for preserving Windsor Square as a distinct neighborhood. Also, the long-gone Midwick Country Club we've seen here before is shown prominently to the east... and Jackie Coogan's house is indicated. I thought we'd also seen it on the thread before, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, it was at 673 S Oxford, off Wilshire. Gone now--


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgZilf
The Coogan house, ca. 1929.

MichaelRyerson Sep 29, 2012 2:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5848652)
:previous: I love that map. The other day while watching a silent film, I spotted one of the obscure tourist spots. I'll have to post.
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..but for right now it's back to the devil.


I found these two photos of a 1890s excursion to Devil's Gate. Notice the lone person sitting on the devil's horn.

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9222/s...sadenapiob.jpg
http://pasadenapio.blogspot.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5331/sgate.jpg
http://pasadenapio.blogspot.com/

I wish they were larger.
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Here's a nice shot from 1908 by Frederick W. Martin...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/8...fd7651ff_o.jpg
Devil's Gate, Frederick W. Martin, 1908

Martin seemed to specialize in the Pasadena area.

The California History Room, California State Library


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