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r18tdi Jun 29, 2022 10:47 PM

Sigh, another reminder that the bungled casino deal was probably the best and last chance for Lakeside Center to find the benefactor it needs...

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/6/...nter-editorial

ardecila Jul 1, 2022 12:31 AM

If the choice is $400M to rehab an architectural gem, or $1.5B to build a new convention hall (the "bridge building") that is an urbanist disaster, seems like a no-brainer.

If it's gonna sit on the lakefront, I would love if the city and state came together to set up recreational programming for Lakeside Center so it functions as something like park space when there's not a convention going on (which is most of the time).

Imagine a huge fieldhouse where disadvantaged kids can play organized volleyball, tennis, basketball through the winter. The only thing you need is different flooring, and some nets that retract up to the ceiling. McCormick has tons of parking for families to drive here, and direct Metra Electric access to much of the South Side.

jpIllInoIs Jul 1, 2022 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9664827)
If the choice is $400M to rehab an architectural gem, or $1.5B to build a new convention hall (the "bridge building") that is an urbanist disaster, seems like a no-brainer.

If it's gonna sit on the lakefront, I would love if the city and state came together to set up recreational programming for Lakeside Center so it functions as something like park space when there's not a convention going on (which is most of the time).

Imagine a huge fieldhouse where disadvantaged kids can play organized volleyball, tennis, basketball through the winter. The only thing you need is different flooring, and some nets that retract up to the ceiling. McCormick has tons of parking for families to drive here, and direct Metra Electric access to much of the South Side.

The building should be used to bring together all people regardless of any class distinctions. The idea of hosting organized sports Amateur or Pro is excellent. Regional, State or National tournaments in fencing, volleyball, Brazilian mini ball soccer, martial arts of all sorts, handball, ping-pong, basketball.

Of course only Level 3 has the 50ft ceilings hts. Levels 1 &2 are 15ft hts with columns on 30ft centers.

BTW Coming up this week at McMCK lakeside

NIKE TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS
July 10, 11 & 12, 2022Chicago, IL
Now in its 24th year, the Tournament of Champions is the greatest summer basketball event in the world – bar none. For 2022 we will be constructing 80 new full size Sport Courts in the largest Convention Center in North America, Chicago’s amazing McCormick Place.

2022 will also see the return of Nike Nationals, which itself always brings unexpected thrills and surprises. Past years have seen appearances by ESPN crews, Kevin Durant, Chance the Rapper, and more.

Most importantly, Chicago is the #1 recruiting destination for college basketball coaches. Many events claim to have hundreds (or thousands) or NCAA coaches in attendance; the Tournament of Champions is the only one that actually backs up the numbers.

If a team could compete in just one event in 2022 to receive the maximum collegiate exposure for its athletes, the Tournament of Champions would be the one. A central location in one of the world’s greatest cities and the highest caliber competition on the planet make this a must stop for all serious teams and athletes.

VKChaz Jul 1, 2022 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs (Post 9665142)
The building should be used to bring together all people regardless of any class distinctions. The idea of hosting organized sports Amateur or Pro is excellent. Regional, State or National tournaments in fencing, volleyball, Brazilian mini ball soccer, martial arts of all sorts, handball, ping-pong, basketball.

Of course only Level 3 has the 50ft ceilings hts. Levels 1 &2 are 15ft hts with columns on 30ft centers.

BTW Coming up this week at McMCK lakeside

NIKE TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS
July 10, 11 & 12, 2022Chicago, IL
Now in its 24th year, the Tournament of Champions is the greatest summer basketball event in the world – bar none. For 2022 we will be constructing 80 new full size Sport Courts in the largest Convention Center in North America, Chicago’s amazing McCormick Place.

2022 will also see the return of Nike Nationals, which itself always brings unexpected thrills and surprises. Past years have seen appearances by ESPN crews, Kevin Durant, Chance the Rapper, and more.

Most importantly, Chicago is the #1 recruiting destination for college basketball coaches. Many events claim to have hundreds (or thousands) or NCAA coaches in attendance; the Tournament of Champions is the only one that actually backs up the numbers.

If a team could compete in just one event in 2022 to receive the maximum collegiate exposure for its athletes, the Tournament of Champions would be the one. A central location in one of the world’s greatest cities and the highest caliber competition on the planet make this a must stop for all serious teams and athletes.

At least according to the McCormick site, doesn't appear Nike is held at Lakeside

https://www.mccormickplace.com/events/

Though I would imagine sporting events can be generally held throughout, I don't know if there is a reason they would work better in one building than another or where all the previous sporting events have been held.

Seem to recall some comments early in the casino thread about people sniffing around to repurpose at least a portion of Lakeside. Maybe for sound stages? I can imagine MPEA is looking for ways to better monetize the space if its trade show use is limited. And it is already a bit of mixed use facility given the presence of Arie Crown.

galleyfox Jul 1, 2022 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VKChaz (Post 9665240)
At least according to the McCormick site, doesn't appear Nike is held at Lakeside

https://www.mccormickplace.com/events/

Though I would imagine sporting events can be generally held throughout, I don't know if there is a reason they would work better in one building than another or where all the previous sporting events have been held.

Seem to recall some comments early in the casino thread about people sniffing around to repurpose at least a portion of Lakeside. Maybe for sound stages? I can imagine MPEA is looking for ways to better monetize the space if its trade show use is limited. And it is already a bit of mixed use facility given the presence of Arie Crown.



Yeah, some articles from Spring 2021.

It’s probably a big reason why McPier was so ambivalent about the casino.

There were already legal issues from Public Trust, and they still use the space for operations and some conventions. And they may have real interest from film productions now.

At some point, it looks like somebody is just going to have to pony up for repairs.


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“McCormick Place has some pretty good sound baffling, so that would be a pretty quick thing to be able to move into,” said Falzone, an associate professor in Directing and Cinema Studies at Columbia College Chicago. “It’s easier, faster, and less expensive for a production to come to Chicago than it is to most of these other cities.”

“The Lakeside dimension has been also something that’s been used in the past for ‘Batman’ – it was the location of the Bat Cave,” said Chicago Film Office Director Kwame Amoaku.

Amoaku said the film office has exceeded pre-pandemic production levels in the city, and the Lakeside Center space at McCormick Place is helping them recruit more projects.

“So we’re actually in this position where were running out of soundstage space to put all of these new productions that were coming in, so it was great that Lakeside was able to be utilized and offered as a soundstage space – and we’re currently marketing it as such,” he said.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/04...cormick-place/


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McCormick Place general manager David Casten told the board the NBC television show, “Chicago Med” would film again this week in the McCormick Place West building since Cinespace, the West Side film studio where the show and “Chicago P.D.” are filmed, is “at full capacity.”

“We’ve also been working with Cinespace executives on trying to market our Lakeside Center upper level hall for soundstage availability for pilots, films, swing sets, other kind of filming that is occurring in Chicago,” Casten said.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...pact?_amp=true

jpIllInoIs Jul 13, 2022 4:13 PM

Register for Virtual Community Meeting regarding Medinah Temple as temp facility.

https://cityofchicago-org.zoom.us/we...TPGt0vq9haDjpQ

The City of Chicago and Bally’s Chicago are proposing to utilize the existing Medinah Temple, located at 600 North Wabash, as a temporary casino facility. Bally’s Chicago will present its plans with respect to historic preservation and answer questions related to historic preservation and the upcoming Permit Review Committee meeting. The community may submit in advance any questions or comments related to the project via email to chicagocasino@cityofchicago.org.

TUESDAY, JULY 19, 2022
AT 6:00 PM

r18tdi Jul 13, 2022 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs (Post 9674932)
Register for Virtual Community Meeting regarding Medinah Temple as temp facility.

https://cityofchicago-org.zoom.us/we...TPGt0vq9haDjpQ

The City of Chicago and Bally’s Chicago are proposing to utilize the existing Medinah Temple, located at 600 North Wabash, as a temporary casino facility. Bally’s Chicago will present its plans with respect to historic preservation and answer questions related to historic preservation and the upcoming Permit Review Committee meeting. The community may submit in advance any questions or comments related to the project via email to chicagocasino@cityofchicago.org.

TUESDAY, JULY 19, 2022
AT 6:00 PM

I bet this NIMBY shit-fest will go past 9:00 PM.

left of center Jul 13, 2022 5:35 PM

Grab a bowl of popcorn for the livestream. There's gonna be a whole lot of Karen's mouthing off next Tuesday.

twister244 Jul 28, 2022 6:26 PM

Saw this pop up on my feed....

Not sure how I feel, but I am not against more park space along the river.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/07...a-public-park/

VKChaz Jul 28, 2022 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9688299)
Saw this pop up on my feed....

Not sure how I feel, but I am not against more park space along the river.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/07...a-public-park/

"Park space" is what you have along most of the new private riverwalks like Riverline. The casino provides an opportunity to have an active section

ardecila Jul 28, 2022 6:48 PM

OK, RNRA - I will happily trade the outdoor amphitheater for the pedestrian bridge that you killed.

west-town-brad Aug 3, 2022 1:43 PM

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/08/pre...-the-loop.html

Anyone care to bet on how many timeline extensions this temporary casino location is going to get?

I'm going to say it will operate here for at least 10 years, if not unofficially forever.

thegoatman Aug 3, 2022 2:31 PM

might as well keep it there as a secondary casino. Hasn't that building been vacant for decades now?

rivernorthlurker Aug 3, 2022 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9692601)
might as well keep it there as a secondary casino. Hasn't that building been vacant for decades now?

No, Bloomingdale's Home Store was there from 2000 to 2020.

twister244 Aug 3, 2022 3:30 PM

If anything, maybe it will draw enough attention to get someone to invest into the building after the main casino is finished. I think it's kinda cool that's the temporary location though. Looking forward to visiting while they are building the main casino.

r18tdi Aug 3, 2022 3:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9688331)
OK, RNRA - I will happily trade the outdoor amphitheater for the pedestrian bridge that you killed.

One Hundred Percent.

ithakas Aug 3, 2022 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by west-town-brad (Post 9692554)
https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/08/pre...-the-loop.html

Anyone care to bet on how many timeline extensions this temporary casino location is going to get?

I'm going to say it will operate here for at least 10 years, if not unofficially forever.

I agree that it will probably end up running forever. Architecturally it seems ideal for a smaller casino, and the location is exceptional for drawing in tourists and eventually shuttling them to the larger casino.

left of center Aug 3, 2022 5:14 PM

I would be more than fine keeping it open indefinitely. It's got excellent proximity to Michigan Ave and multiple hotels, and a massive parking structure across the street that will make access for suburbanites and out of town drivers easier. Once the main casino is built, they can have a 24 hour shuttle service going back and forth between the two in order to easily grab tourists. This will also have the added benefit of keeping the casino busses off Michigan Ave; if there's no mini Medinah Temple casino, Bally's would probably push for a Michigan Ave drop off/pick up point for the main casino location.

HomrQT Aug 3, 2022 7:24 PM

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Originally Posted by left of center (Post 9692799)
I would be more than fine keeping it open indefinitely.

A city the size and caliber of Chicago should have more 24 hour activity and it would be interesting if a sizeable casino could encourage more of that.

left of center Aug 4, 2022 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HomrQT (Post 9692992)
A city the size and caliber of Chicago should have more 24 hour activity and it would be interesting if a sizeable casino could encourage more of that.

Fully agree with you there.


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